VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13.2] [Nyx]

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Is there any way things don't end in shit for Andrés? he seemed to be a good father and the whole thing about him being unfaithful and the MC blocking him from his phone and ending their relationship seemed abrupt, silly and just a way for the author to say "Yeah, fuck that asshole."
 
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townie said:
This whole part of the story is a bit of a mess because the intent is to make Emily and Santiago come out as the good guys and Andres the villain. There's a scene in the restaurant where you can see Emily on the phone with Andres where he presumably tells her that yes he started dating her to spite Santiago but only at the start and voilà, instead of Emily realising that eh, he might have wanted to get back at Santi but he still married me and took care of my kid, but no- now she has a reason to really hate Andres.
Meanwhile the plot almost completely ignores that the dude raised a child that wasn't his own (Emily does bring it up but the MC doesn't ever show any gratitude) and he for some reason attacks and throws out the kid he lived with and was a father to for who knows how many years over a fight that was his own fault. And to top it all off he's cheating on (or at least lying to) the woman he wants to marry. Oh and not telling your son that he's not really your son within this specific timeframe is bad because reasons.
Most of these older characters, if not all of them, did questionable shit as youths (Santiago most of all) but Andres seems to be the only one who's getting the shit end of the stick by being made the scapegoat for Emily and MC's problems.
But hey, DRAMA!
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This is very true, man I'm loving the game, but I just can't with the lazy, sh*tty writing the author did with Andrés. I mean, at first he seems like a nice guy who was a good father (Emily mentions it a lot, like he cried when the mc called him Dad) but then it seems like the author had a stroke and decided to make him an absolute asshole. It seems like he just did it for the haha or because he wants to portray Santiago as a good guy, fuck, many times I've heard "The One Who Who Raises A Child Is Called A Father. Not The One Who Helped Make It".
 
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And I really hope he got called out for this bullshit on Patreon, because when an author commits such writing scum, it usually means he'll use the same nonsensical trick in the following updates to justify other plots.
 
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The Senior Perv said:
Maybe if you end up the romance with Nikki/Cara before the MC leaves to live with his mom (they won't call you because there's nothing between them). Haven't really tried that one, but that's my guess.
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Apparently not, in the previous pages someone commented that anyway Andrés is cheating and ends his relation with MC.
 
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yeah i kinda felt bad for Andres too when they suddenly revealed him to be cheating on his fiance after raising the mc by himself after his mom sent him there. but after Andres punches him, i had no problem with mc cutting him out of his life.
 
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AngryBob2 said:
This is very true, man I'm loving the game, but I just can't with the lazy, sh*tty writing the author did with Andrés. I mean, at first he seems like a nice guy who was a good father (Emily mentions it a lot, like he cried when the mc called him Dad) but then it seems like the author had a stroke and decided to make him an absolute asshole. It seems like he just did it for the haha or because he wants to portray Santiago as a good guy, fuck, many times I've heard "The One Who Who Raises A Child Is Called A Father. Not The One Who Helped Make It".
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I don't even think it was done just because. I think this is very common when the author has an idea that pushes them into a corner and they need some plot trick or dramatic character changes to get out. I don't know if this Santiago stuff was always in the work. But it seems like we just needed a justification to hate Andres so that Santiago can appear as a good guy in comparison and the mom won't come off looking horrible.

But tell you what, this thing is so transparent that it is actually doing the opposite. This deliberate villainifcation of Andres is breaking immersion since it's so clear what's going on and it makes me hate Santiago and the Mom even more.
 
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Polinice said:
Has anyone found a path to any scene with Sienna?
I've been wondering since the name "Sienna" randomly appeared to be the answer if you choose the "Guess" option when Tori says "Guess who I am?", although at that time MC still didn't know Sienna...
I always believed that was a clue to something more...
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Leaving aside the issue of Andrés. This also puzzles me a lot

Why does the mc mention Sienna's name if he literally hadn't met her in the game at that point?

Sienna is an enigma to me, because let's be honest she has the most attractive model in the game, she is introduced in the story fairly early on, but from there on she is relegated to the total background. She literally has no interaction with the MC until the camp, where we can notice how attractive she is and when she licks the MC's nipple, but then she disappears again. We also know that within the game there is the variable of "Sienna points", so obviously there must be something.
 
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The Senior Perv said:
Maybe if you end up the romance with Nikki/Cara before the MC leaves to live with his mom (they won't call you because there's nothing between them). Haven't really tried that one, but that's my guess.
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No, then you get a scene where Andres and Nikki/Cara's mother are fighting.
The MC is like ''so you cheat on her like you did on mom'' Andres slaps him for the comment end.

liberatorus said:
But tell you what, this thing is so transparent that it is actually doing the opposite. This deliberate villainifcation of Andres is breaking immersion since it's so clear what's going on and it makes me hate Santiago and the Mom even more.
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Yeah pretty much this. It's not that Andres was perfect before or anything, but he did really just get the stick so Emily and maybe Santi look good, it just doesn't work imo.

AngryBob2 said:
Sienna is an enigma to me, because let's be honest she has the most attractive model in the game, she is introduced in the story fairly early on, but from there on she is relegated to the total background. She literally has no interaction with the MC until the camp, where we can notice how attractive she is and when she licks the MC's nipple, but then she disappears again. We also know that within the game there is the variable of "Sienna points", so obviously there must be something.
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The MC is just saying a name and is surprised as he meets her afterwards.
Yeah she is attractive and seems overall nice and funny, but the game has already a large cast. I wouldn't hold my breath that there will be any content with her, she also has a bf iirc.
 
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AngryBob2 said:
Sienna is an enigma to me, because let's be honest she has the most attractive model in the game, she is introduced in the story fairly early on, but from there on she is relegated to the total background. [...]
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That is actually a matter of personal taste. Nothing wrong with that, we all have our personal tastes. Where you see the most attractive model in the game, I see a model that is not as attractive or good looking as some others in the game. But then again, that is just my personal taste.


Raziel_8 said:
Yeah she is attractive and seems overall nice and funny, but the game has already a large cast. I wouldn't hold my breath that there will be any content with her, she also has a bf iirc.
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She does have a boyfriend indeed. Not that it should stop us from fooling around flirting with her if we are so inclined to do so though.
 
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AngryBob2 said:
Is there any way things don't end in shit for Andrés? he seemed to be a good father and the whole thing about him being unfaithful and the MC blocking him from his phone and ending their relationship seemed abrupt, silly and just a way for the author to say "Yeah, fuck that asshole."
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doubt it. since even mc's "sisters" don't like him so no fixing things.

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game has already a large cast.
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that's mildly said.
 
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