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valbitterb

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I suspect also that Vals father is the famous basketball player,

I agree with LSC82 that sounds like a very plausible idea.

It makes a lot of sense with Val's athletic genes and celebrities - athletes (Zo) and actresses (Ximena) - traveling in the same circles.


From Freakin' Zo to Freaking Zo's daughter, Val(???)

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"Mr Monroe" might end up a red herring, the biological father of Layla/Alexis never appearing or dead.

Something to keep in mind is that Adriana uses Moore as a name, she doesn't the Monroe of her daughters or Navarro from Santiago.
i still say that adriana has had 2 hubbies, 1st fathered alexis and 2nd fathered kayla.

there could be good reason not to use current hubby's last name.
 
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Mixing and matching. Easier to set up for future updates
Yup, there's also some fun to be had with mixing, seeing girls get jealous... how they react to "competition".
So even for a completionist mixing is advantageous, maybe doing 500 runs is the safest way to unlock the gallery(actually you can't, a couple of scenes require a little mixing), but you lose on some fun interactions.

I agree with LSC82 that sounds like a very plausible idea.

It makes a lot of sense with Val's athletic genes and celebrities - athletes (Zo) and actresses (Ximena) - traveling in the same circles.


From Freakin' Zo to Freaking Zo's daughter, Val(???)

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Agreed, if you make Ximena the mother, you better bring the big guns for the dad... it can't be famous actress and... some dude.
I mean you can make that, but... meh.

Poor Zo, retired for his family, still had the wife walk away... and she ends up(hopefully) taking a ride on the son of his college buddy, who is also banging his baby girl!!!!

I don't think Zo will sign our poster if we ask nicely lol.

This theory may be a new favorite for me.

i still say that adriana has had 2 hubbies, 1st fathered alexis and 2nd fathered kayla.

there could be good reason not to use current hubby's last name.
I think both girls use Monroe, which goes against this theory.

As for Adriana not using Monroe... you can say she never took the name, prefered to use her own.
It's an acceptable explanation, but also a boring one.

Or that she isn't married to Mr Monroe anymore, whomever he is.
 
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As for Adriana not using Monroe... you can say she never took the name, prefered to use her own.
It's an acceptable explanation, but also a boring one.

Or that she isn't married to Mr Monroe anymore, whomever he is.
I wonder if this will have significance. Either he really hates that word, which would be weird and oddly specific IMO, or perhaps they aren't actually married?
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I wonder if this will have significance. Either he really hates that word, which would be weird and oddly specific IMO, or perhaps they aren't actually married?
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Good catch.
In addition to that is the guy currently in her house even Mr Monroe?

It would be a fix to the Santiago situation, not being married (in addition to not being biological father to Layla and Alexis), would clear the way for Santiago to be in a relationship with Adriana and leave the girls still on the "allowed" territory.

They call him dad since he's been at their house for years(suppousedly)... but they aren't his daughters biologically or legally.
It would also suit the Santiago who ran for the hills upon hearing he was gonna have a son not wanting to be legally responsible for anything lol.
 
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Good catch.
In addition to that is the guy currently in her house even Mr Monroe?

It would be a fix to the Santiago situation, not being married (in addition to not being biological father to Layla and Alexis), would clear the way for Santiago to be in a relationship with Adriana and leave the girls still on the "allowed" territory.

They call him dad since he's been at their house for years(suppousedly)... but they aren't his daughters biologically or legally.
It would also suit the Santiago who ran for the hills upon hearing he was gonna have a son not wanting to be legally responsible for anything lol.
Well I think that he is their father and he and Adrianna are together, but all of that could be true but they never actually got married. You can put either parents name on a childs birth certificate. This scene makes me sure that they are a couple and he is their father.
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maybe current hubby is it either moore or monroe or whatever is mc's daddy.
 
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On another play through, I noticed Val's eye and facial expressions show that she's hiding something regarding the reason why she quit pole vaulting. The question and exchange is making her uncomfortable.

Could it be connected to our theory LSC82 that Val's possible origin story as the female version of the MC is that she got her heart broken by a guy? And it was a very bad heartbreak.

I think it was a fellow pole vaulter. Could this be the guy she was sending her sexy selfies too that the MC sees on her phone?

(I don't think it was just athlete burnout or she wasn't good enough at pole vault - hence qualifying for nationals. There seems to be a personal reason here for her to decide to switch sports.)

NOTE: I pulled down the shadows and contrast so we can see her facial expression better.

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Now I realize something that bothered me about the ethan issue. Even if the police believe that Erynn gave him that tape, it's still revenge porn which is illegal as fuck. Not to mention that by releasing it he'd be ruining his father's business. Shouldnt be an issue as currently constructed
honestly im running under the assumption even if she made such a report it wouldn't matter because of Ethans father. The way he is described to me sounds like someone that has connections and probably bough off the police. Tho I have no proof of that just a wild guess on my part.
 

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honestly im running under the assumption even if she made such a report it wouldn't matter because of Ethans father. The way he is described to me sounds like someone that has connections and probably bough off the police. Tho I have no proof of that just a wild guess on my part.
Once that tape is released, the cyber cops will be all over it. There is no way he could cover it up; if anything, his pops will drop him like a bad habit.

OT I wonder if Zane is an accessory to Ethan. Strange how Ethan got that tape. His absence from that photo shoot due to a broken nose seems strangely like someone who has a gambling problem. I realize Im putting too much into this with that theory, but something to consider
 
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Once that tape is released, the cyber cops will be all over it. There is no way he could cover it up; if anything, his pops will drop him like a bad habit.

OT I wonder if Zane is an accessory to Ethan. Strange how Ethan got that tape. His absence from that photo shoot is also strange even if it means nothing.
i'm not really sure how tapes like that are released but I assume they be handed to the cops so as long it isn't given to a dirty one I think you be correct. My assumption is it could be given to a dirty one and never released. Plus Ethan is the one that has it

Yeah his absence from the Photoshoot is a bit too convenient for me
 

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i'm not really sure how tapes like that are released but I assume they be handed to the cops so as long it isn't given to a dirty one I think you be correct. My assumption is it could be given to a dirty one and never released. Plus Ethan is the one that has it
That depends on your choice when John is in the club, if you help Erynn when she is at the backentrance, then no you got his phone, if you run by the plan then yes Ethan is still in possesion of the tape.
 
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That depends on your choice when John is in the club, if you help Erynn when she is at the backentrance, then no you got his phone, if you run by the plan then yes Ethan is still in possesion of the tape.
o wait it's one his phone I thought it was on another device or something but yeah if it's on his phone that makes doing that path even better
 
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Now I realize something that bothered me about the ethan issue. Even if the police believe that Erynn gave him that tape, it's still revenge porn which is illegal as fuck. Not to mention that by releasing it he'd be ruining his father's business. Shouldnt be an issue as currently constructed
Yeah, Erynn goes to justice accusing Ethan of blackmail through a sexually explicit taping of her and Zane.
Let's say he hides this thing somewhere and Erynn loses the case... she probably still gets a contract release from the company or at least a new agent.

And if the sextape is ever released Ethan just incriminated himself and is liable in a civil suit, screw teaching the girl would be a millionaire.
o wait it's one his phone I thought it was on another device or something but yeah if it's on his phone that makes doing that path even better
With the no rush approach the MC is having with that phone by the time he tries to access it, the phone will have it's access completely blocked
 
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With the no rush approach the MC is having with that phone by the time he tries to access it, the phone will have it's access completely blocked
Yeah if they were smart him and Erynn would watch it at least once just to see if there is something besides Erynn getting plowed they can notice that would be useful to them. Even if it makes them both uncomfortable and Erynn really emotional and brings back bad memories. Or at the very least ask Erynn if he can view it for this reason.
 
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Yeah, Erynn goes to justice accusing Ethan of blackmail through a sexually explicit taping of her and Zane.
Let's say he hides this thing somewhere and Erynn loses the case... she probably still gets a contract release from the company or at least a new agent.

And if the sextape is ever released Ethan just incriminated himself and is liable in a civil suit, screw teaching the girl would be a millionaire.

With the no rush approach the MC is having with that phone by the time he tries to access it, the phone will have it's access completely blocked
Devils advocate but wouldn't it be in the cloud. I am betting he most likely didn't use his phone to record it. Can you imagine yea Erynn take it you like it Don....ring ring ring what the fuck is that.
 
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