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TonyMurray

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the update did tease the idea of how Alexis would pick Erynn for a threesome if that becomes a reality that could be a step in the right direction but not sure if that relationship would happen. I would love it to however.
If anything does come of this, I fully expect it will be a (probably quite awkward) one-off. Certainly not anything ongoing as a throuple relationship.
Definitely start a new PT bc this update (13) was otherwise broken on several of my PT's. This update was pretty bad in general in terms of the overall plot. Nyx is creating a whole lot of unnecessary work for himself to drag the story out longer. A whole lot of this updates work specifically went into things that should never have been put in.

Layla's path had some good progression. Val's path is completely broken if you don't restart her PT, but is otherwise really good. The end of this update though... Ethan going after Val just doesn't work. As a one off, it was easy to justify going after Erynn. Val specifically would be the worst person for him to try harm followed closely by Layla/Alexis. Elena is the only one in the MC's circle at school he could directly go after and not get caught.

Mira especially should not have been introduced, which means the entire trip to see Nathan should have been excluded. She fills the exact same role as Cara and Nikki, which was something that wasn't necessary to the story to begin with. It worked bc of the ties to the MC's father, but Mira doesn't have that going for her.

Lakeyn returning in this way was also just way too extra. Most of the people the MC can sleep with all belong to the same family bc of this, which is way too incestuous for a non-incest story. To make it worse, like the Mira situation, Lakeyn's existence here is simply replaying earlier events once again through another character. This just replays the whole Layla/Alexis scene at the pizzeria again just with Alexis and Lakeyn.

The Mira and Lakeyn issues are really big stumbles which took up waaaay too much of the time spent on this update and didn't just drag this update down, but drug the entire game down. You never want to tell anyone, "Hey, this massive section of the work you did has to be redone," yet I think it's necessary here bc neither characters roles in this update should have survived the rough draft. Your interactions with a story should never become a circular conversation, but that's where we are now with recycling plot beats.
I find most of this to be inaccurate for my playthrough. I've not completed them all yet, but I have done most of my saves now and not had to restart a single one. I just have Nikki and Erynn left, and I'm halfway through Valeria, which (like the others) has run flawlessly from my previous save.

Nyx is a she, not a he, and I don't see that she's caused herself any extra work that wouldn't normally be caused. Any game like this is going to keep growning because of the choices you can make. It's not a problem here, IMO.

The story is called Intertwined for a reason. The relationships the MC can have are all intertwined with each other. Once you get that aspect of it, of course Lakeyn is part of Alexis and Layla's family. It almost makes less sense that she wouldn't be, in game terms.

It's only opinions, but mine is definitely not the same as yours here. I don't feel the Miri or Lakeyn sections dragged the game down in the slightest. The Miri bit was maybe unexpected and maybe a bit weird, but there's nothing new with bringing in new characters and potentially new LIs, if that's going to be more than a one-off.

As for general issues, outside of a handful of typos and one or two missing renders, the only issue I have found in any of my playthroughs is the one that's already been spoken about - on a non-Alexis save, the meeting with Lakeyn at the pizzeria is cold, and MC walks off as if there is bad blood between him and Alexis, even though scenes before and after don't reflect this. It seems like a bad trigger is used, perhaps, so it shows the scene where you've broken up with Alexis, even if you never got together with her.
Now if I recall correctly (and it was admittedly a very long time ago) I didn't want anything to do with her in the past and didn't give a shit if she went on dates, but why are we being shown this shit?
Having no interest in her means having no interest.
Saying I don't care if she goes on dates then showing her getting railed by some twat with even more tattoos than the MC seems like it's just a way for the dev to cater to the NTR crowd without actually having to brand the game with the NTR tramp stamp because "Oh, well you said you don't care so it's not really NTR since you aren't dating her".
You get the option to view or skip that scene, so that's on you, really.
 

novamarauder

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Do people not see why having two people with such potent feelings for the MC participating in a 3-way would be catastrophic? Yeah, it would be hot to the player but emotionally devastating to the participants.
Honestly, such a viewpoint registers as almost incomprehensible to me since from my PoV the path of least resistance in such a situation with someone I deeply care about in a romantic way and a third party I care about just as deeply in a friendship way would be to try my best to make a poly relationship work, assuming ofc the other parties are onboard with this, precisely because I care a lot for both. I would find the perspective of potentially losing a partner or a friend because I cannot bring myself to share and deal with my jealousy and possessive issues much more harmful and self-destructive for all parties involved. I would be deeply disappointed by myself if I would find myself agreeing with the opposite stance. Admittedly, this comes from the perspective of a borderline aro that finds romantic and friendship relations almost indistinguishable except for the labels others with a different mindset may put on the bond and ofc the potential of sexual intimacy with someone I find attractive.
 

Dessolos

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And on the alexis path it is a great scene with lakeyn if you had the mc choose not to have sex with lakeyn.
I still need to do a Alexis save where I have , only did solo saves for now.

Just you wait until your dating Melissa while having dinner with Emily/John and Iris/Erynn. That means someone from each couple has fucked someone from another. :ROFLMAO:
im not interested in Melissa at all but with all this John stuff it makes me interested in her path just for that when it does open up and start.

If anything does come of this, I fully expect it will be a (probably quite awkward) one-off. Certainly not anything ongoing as a throuple relationship.
o 100% I don't think a throuple is even on the table hell I don't think a threesome is even on the table I think it's just Nyx being a troll and teasing us with the possiblity
 

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Ran a route where I dated Alexis until the pizzeria and then didn't help her (I didn't pick the nuclear option here, but I didn't help her carry the groceries which is Alexis exit #100 or something). It's weird because they talk about talking later and then never do. I then went for Erynn (I picked Erynn over Layla at the Heaven club to stay friends with Layla without having to do drastic stuff to get off her romantic route) and apparently this skips ever having MC explain to Erynn about Alexis. Jumped on Val's route but thanks to being off of Alexis, it's a mess. I'm also dating Cara for charity work, haven't broken up yet. I'm currently at the Erynn/Val choice for the beach date in ep 13.

It's been an interesting ride. Being on Alexis's breakup route seems to really affect Val scenes (no head scratches, no ep 11 beach). He also doesn't call her after she helps him with Ethan. I didn't understand why until I looked at the walkthrough and it's tied to the Alexis route, which is confusing. Cara is just kinda there, not really interacting with the plot.
 

novamarauder

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You see it one way and the Dev completely disagrees, with a hard stop. That about ends it right there, as what the Dev says goes. Unless you or someone else want to come out with your own 'expansion'/addon to the game with changed story and a bunch of new renders.
Of course, but this cannot stop myself from being deeply disappointed with the characters, the story, and the Dev if this turns out to be the case. Unfortunately I am not even in the same neighborhood of having the technical and more importantly the creative skills to accomplish what you describe. Admittedly, however, I know enough to be able to keep manipulating the variables to make the story turn out the way I would prefer, as far as the script would allow and I deem the effort worthwhile. This being done with no second thought whatsoever except practical feasibility concerns because I deem my own playing fun and satisfaction orders of magnitude more important than anyone's integrity of artistic vision.
 
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cooldevo

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install URM and check the following variable, this is the one that decides if Emily goes on the date with John.
View attachment 4360513
If true just change to false and that should fix it. If false and the scene still happens then I have no idea, I've switched between the two options on a few of my saves where I originally approved, but changed my mind after the Brooke reveal, and it worked fine.
Ahhh yeah. I went back through a few of the saves and you are right. I normally poke around in the variables and somehow missed seeing that one set differently. The ones where I didn't 'intervene' with John were set to True, and the ones where I did intervene they were set to True. I have two different saves sets for each character, where they: 1) intervene; and 2) don't intervene, just to see how the story diverges.
 
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Nobody in this VN is emotionally mature enough to be in a poly relationship for any thing past a short term fling. It would take some drastic growth on multiple characters and you'd conceivably end up with a different story.

Alexis-Dates the MC behind Erynn's back, (even though Erynn doesn't really have a claim on him) is extremely flighty, and I just can't see her being okay with sharing (Erynn included). At best, you get a threesome but that really doesn't mean anything on a poly front.
Erynn-Can't even come to terms with her own feelings about MC, let alone be okay with someone else harboring similar feelings (The Erynn-Alexis rift)
Layla-She gets too jealous. Follow any of her routes where you also interact with others (Val/Tori/Alexis) and watch her looks. She's antsy about it and Elena has to calm her down.
Elena-About the only person I'd accept being mature enough to deal with the headache poly relationships can be. Still, you need more than one character and Layla is the only one she really involves herself with in the story.
Iris-LOL no. She might even love the MC more than Erynn but she puts up that façade of being the cool ex.

No one else is even worth discussing from a poly front.
 
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im not interested in Melissa at all but with all this John stuff it makes me interested in her path just for that when it does open up and start.
It's going to be really weird if it does open up because since the game launched we have only had a handful of encounters with Melissa and the only a few moments with sexual tension between the two. There's almost zero romance progression there and it doesn't seem to be going anywhere so unless this game is going to go on for another 2+ years i don't see how Nyx could make that route work.
 
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As for general issues, outside of a handful of typos and one or two missing renders, the only issue I have found in any of my playthroughs is the one that's already been spoken about - on a non-Alexis save, the meeting with Lakeyn at the pizzeria is cold, and MC walks off as if there is bad blood between him and Alexis, even though scenes before and after don't reflect this. It seems like a bad trigger is used, perhaps, so it shows the scene where you've broken up with Alexis, even if you never got together with her.
There's another issue, at least in the ASP, where the convesration with Erryn when she's in the bathtub is messed up, it shows two instances of the same convo.

The ASP always gets coding issuees though u_u
 
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also, well it seems that everyone is moving to Madison Springs, so if you're on multiple paths, it looks like it's all gonna blow up spectacularly in your face :p I think I'll keep a manwhore run or two just for that... specially with the more clingy/jealous girls like Alexis & Nikki.
 

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also, well it seems that everyone is moving to Madison Springs, so if you're on multiple paths, it looks like it's all gonna blow up spectacularly in your face :p I think I'll keep a manwhore run or two just for that... specially with the more clingy/jealous girls like Alexis & Nikki.
Shit even if you we're on the single route the girls who saw Nikki we're already jealous of her. :LOL:
 
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Nobody in this VN is emotionally mature enough to be in a poly relationship for any thing past a short term fling. It would take some drastic growth on multiple characters and you'd conceivably end up with a different story.

Alexis-Dates the MC behind Erynn's back, (even though Erynn doesn't really have a claim on him) is extremely flighty, and I just can't see her being okay with sharing (Erynn included). At best, you get a threesome but that really doesn't mean anything on a poly front.
Erynn-Can't even come to terms with her own feelings about MC, let alone be okay with someone else harboring similar feelings (The Erynn-Alexis rift)
Layla-She gets too jealous. Follow any of her routes where you also interact with others (Val/Tori/Alexis) and watch her looks. She's antsy about it and Elena has to calm her down.
Elena-About the only person I'd accept being mature enough to deal with the headache poly relationships can be. Still, you need more than one character and Layla is the only one she really involves herself with in the story.
Iris-LOL no. She might even love the MC more than Erynn but she puts up that façade of being the cool ex.

No one else is even worth discussing from a poly front.
I agree. Layla/Elena is about the only potential throuple. In the Jacuzzi ep you have the option to tease and play with both and Layla doesn't look stressed BUT she had also been drinking throughout the day. I don't really think she would be happy sharing MC even with Elena however, at least how she is now. Anyone else and she panics. The scene before the track meet where Erynn kisses your cheek to say bye immediately cuts to her looking grumpy and she knows Erynn.
 

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Nobody in this VN is emotionally mature enough to be in a poly relationship for any thing past a short term fling. It would take some drastic growth on multiple characters and you'd conceivably end up with a different story.

Alexis-Dates the MC behind Erynn's back, (even though Erynn doesn't really have a claim on him) is extremely flighty, and I just can't see her being okay with sharing (Erynn included). At best, you get a threesome but that really doesn't mean anything on a poly front.
Erynn-Can't even come to terms with her own feelings about MC, let alone be okay with someone else harboring similar feelings (The Erynn-Alexis rift)
Layla-She gets too jealous. Follow any of her routes where you also interact with others (Val/Tori/Alexis) and watch her looks. She's antsy about it and Elena has to calm her down.
Elena-About the only person I'd accept being mature enough to deal with the headache poly relationships can be. Still, you need more than one character and Layla is the only one she really involves herself with in the story.
Iris-LOL no. She might even love the MC more than Erynn but she puts up that façade of being the cool ex.

No one else is even worth discussing from a poly front.
the maturity part is spot on, they are highschool kids, or barely out of it, what fucking poly relationship. In fact even regular ones usually don't last that long at that age in most cases. Not the game for that sort of content, and would be shitty writing in most scenarios. The one where something like that might happen imo based on the latest release imo would be Layla/Elena. But that's a big if too.
 

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Still got a few more paths to check out while not bad the Nikki path is my least favorite path ive played so far. But I imagine it will still be better than Cara and Layla once I play those saves
 
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