VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13] [Nyx]

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Music will save your mood!

yea but i played with scrappy's from start and don't think switching mod's works.

 

[LSC82]

I've enjoyed reading the Alexis versus Erynn debates so much I've decided to throw in my two cents.

I tend to play as if I'm the MC. When it comes to Alexis versus Erynn, I ask myself with whom am I likely to have a more fulfilling long-term relationship based on their levels of empathy, attraction and commitment, and "brains" (though not necessarily academic intelligence). In my view, the answer to this question is Alexis without a doubt.

1. Consider the reactions of Alexis and Erynn in the flashback scene when the MC confesses to Erynn. Erynn didn't laugh at the MC, but she didn't immediately go after him to comfort him either, despite the obvious emotionally fraught nature of the act of confession and the fact that they were supposed to be such good friends. Alexis comforted the MC immediately even though they weren't really friends. Empathy advantage goes to Alexis.

2. The sexual attraction between Alexis and the MC is off the charts going both ways (if you as the MC elect to proceed with Alexis). Whether or not you believe in love at first sight, I've found through hard-won experience that a relationship with a strong *mutual* sexual attraction has a better chance of long-term happiness than a relationship in which one partner is more attracted and/or committed to the relationship than the other. As others have pointed out, Alexis repeatedly makes decisions that are adverse to her other interests to be with the MC. Erynn doesn't do that at all. She didn't try to visit him after he left or otherwise stay in touch, and it appears Erynn hadn't made it known to her mom or the MC's mom that Erynn was really into the MC (otherwise, why didn't one of the mothers tell Erynn when MC came back to town?). It appears that Erynn's confessions to Alexis about how much Erynn misses and/or wants the MC might have had more to do with her feelings about the loss of his friendship than Erynn being powerfully attracted to him (i.e., is she confusing love and friendship?). The advantages of mutual attraction and willingness to sacrifice other goals for the relationship go to Alexis.

3. The apparent elephant in the room--the fact that Alexis pursued the MC despite her friendship with Erynn--doesn't overcome Erynn's lack of empathy and lack of strong attraction to the MC. There is a big difference in cheating on a lover while in a committed relationship and pursuing a partner who even your "best" friend has an interest in, especially on the facts here. First, it appears obvious that Erynn just isn't into the MC as much as Alexis is. Second, were Lexi and Erynn best friends forever or, like many friendships formed in childhood, friends of convenience because that's where they grew up and, in this case, because their parents were great friends. I'm no longer close friends with *any* of my friends from my childhood. I'd willingly sacrifice one of my childhood "best" friends if I thought I'd found someone who could be the love of my life, and I didn't hold it against Alexis that she was willing to do that for the MC. Friends often come and go throughout one's life; the love of your life is forever. No advantage to Erynn on this one, at least from my perspective.

4. Alexis's lie-by-omission of not telling the MC about her friendship with Erynn is a harder call, but I still found myself forgiving her relatively easily. It's common to omit a lot of potentially unpleasant details when a relationship first starts. Why lay dirty laundry on the table if it's only going to last one or two dates anyway? While this is a strike against Alexis, it's not surprising under the circumstances and doesn't rise to the level of a break-up offense. In any event, this issue doesn't give Erynn an advantage. Early on, Erynn also lies-by-omission to the MC by not disclosing the nature of her ongoing relationship with Ethan and the truth about her "modeling" job. There is no relative advantage to either one on this point.

5. Finally, Erynn is too foolish to be a long-term option for me. Her "modeling" career is a joke, and her inability to find some alternative course of action for dealing with Ethan's blackmail over such a long period of time is astonishing (at least one or two years had already passed since the video was recorded). Was her plan to just keep doing what she's been doing forever until Ethan turns her into a literal whore? It appears so. I'm just not into the dumb, helpless blonde trope. Alexis doesn't appear to be a rocket scientist, but the brains and maturity advantages still go to Alexis.

But hey, that's just me. I like some of the other girls better than either one of them. Team Nikki anyone?

1.Both girls went to find him that day, one ran into him while the other missed him completely... purely by chance.

2.That's very personal as it concerns Alexis and i cant argue your personal feelings, on my end i was just banging the "easy" chick who is putting out while she's in a totally different planet madly attached and in love.
Factually incorrect as it concerns Erynn, she tried to get in touch with him and sent him letters while he was in a different city, the little MC was purposefully being a little shit and ignored her.

3.That's a personal take that i don't share.
I have my childhood friends still in contact(the important ones anyway), some of them have children now and i'm an "uncle"... Women come and go, they are for life.


4.A relationship that begins with lies and intent to deceit is one i will never be able to fully trust, certainly not long term material(if that's important to you).
Alexis omits with intent to gain from it, Erynn's omission only hurts her and is made out of shame.

5.Your criticisms of Erynn are fair. She's a broken person at this point, she wants a way out but has an inability to act, that certainly can be a red flag to many.

 

[rec0d]

God I hope we can beat the living shit out of Zack in the next update!

 

[MrD812]

Number 1, MC would not talk with Erynn when he 'thought' she was laughing at him ....
Erynn Cannot "comfort him" when he will not allow her the opportunity.

 

[MrD812]

Is it just me or... is there a considerable number of people here whom do not read the VN?

 

[LSC82]

Is it just me or... is there a considerable number of people here whom do not read the VN?

It's not uncommon that people can start skipping by characters they don't like which leads to them disliking them further under false pretenses.

God I hope we can beat the living shit out of Zack in the next update!

Beat him up and spray paint his car "ZACK IS AN INCEL".

 

[MrD812]

It's not uncommon that people can start skipping by characters they don't like which leads to them disliking them further under false pretenses.

Well said, MC had a traumatic experience pouring his heart out to Erynn.
Told Lexi all about it and instead of being consoled by her.
She decided.. oh he's HOT, i'm gunna fuck em in the rest-room... to hell with consoling him.

 

[minoslune]

God I hope we can beat the living shit out of Zack in the next update!

True that, brother. Sometimes you just cant make a person understand how shitty they're behaving until they find themselves in deep shit.

 

[Dalish]

I'm not sure about this because I hate the guy and never bothered to check, but is there a way where Zach wont betray you if his friendship is high enough? Or is this just his true character no matter what?

 

[Trojaner]

I'm not sure about this because I hate the guy and never bothered to check, but is there a way where Zach wont betray you if his friendship is high enough? Or is this just his true character no matter what?

Doesn't matter how many Zach points you have, he plays always the Braindamaged idiot.

 

[Nurikabe]

I'm not sure about this because I hate the guy and never bothered to check, but is there a way where Zach wont betray you if his friendship is high enough? Or is this just his true character no matter what?

There are 'Zach Points' accumulating. However, it doesn't seem to have any impact on what he does in Episode 9.

Important to consider that the story is still being told. Zach betrayed the MC. What will come next?!

 

[Canto Forte]

There is nothing to gain for MC by rejecting any girl.
There is nothing but hurt when he rejected mom and bff.
MC will miss everything like mom getting m,olested by her bff who got her drunk on purpose to molest her.
MC could be still angry while everyone will go their way:
Alex will drift away in a life of being hit on at the pub and shouldering Eyrin self deprecating storie.
Eyrin will still end up on the side of the road discarded.
The manager of mom”s pub will still gang bang her employees and scram.
Layla will still get stalked and bullied by that guy.
MC should accept any and all kindness from the babes n his life, as he stands to loose them all the time.

 

[Trojaner]

There are 'Zach Points' accumulating. However, it doesn't seem to have any impact on what he does in Episode 9.

Important to consider that the story is still being told. Zach betrayed the MC. What will come next?!

Maybe we will find a beat up Zach, if he is stupid enough (we know he is) and shows Ethan the Selfie he made while kiss Eryns Cheek.

 

[MrD812]

There is nothing to gain for MC by rejecting any girl.
There is nothing but hurt when he rejected mom and bff.
MC will miss everything like mom getting m,olested by her bff who got her drunk on purpose to molest her.
MC could be still angry while everyone will go their way:
Alex will drift away in a life of being hit on at the pub and shouldering Eyrin self deprecating storie.
Eyrin will still end up on the side of the road discarded.
The manager of mom”s pub will still gang bang her employees and scram.
Layla will still get stalked and bullied by that guy.
MC should accept any and all kindness from the babes n his life, as he stands to loose them all the time.

Ah i get it, think with the head that's not above the shoulders and just get laid .... Think Like Zach and Ethan then.
Gunna pass on that but thanks anyways.

 

[Canto Forte]

There are four girls with no drama that MC can get with. These babes do not dump their shortcummings on MC:
Nicky: she is nice enough to offer MC her healthy regiment and they can hit it off like good friends.
Cara: she goes for MC and he gets all the chances to decide on her or not.
MC can be with them and fend off their enemies, something Eyrin never lets MC ever do.

Then there is Alex and Layla: Alex is the only one with no strings, she never dumps any drama on MC;
Layla has a stalker and MC gets to share in her hurt, as he gets beat up good foor looking at her.

MC is only doing what males do in mating season about the females they fancy: fight for them.

MC is chosen by the babes in this game after he battles for them.

As we all can see, Alex is the only clean slate: Eyrin cannot get over/past Ethan,
which is grounds enough for both MC and Alex to break all communications with her:
it is her choice to be with Ethan over MC and over Alex.

Serves her right then.

 

[Bruce F. Lee]

1.Both girls went to find him that day, one ran into him while the other missed him completely... purely by chance.

2.That's very personal as it concerns Alexis and i cant argue your personal feelings, on my end i was just banging the "easy" chick who is putting out while she's in a totally different planet madly attached and in love.
Factually incorrect as it concerns Erynn, she tried to get in touch with him and sent him letters while he was in a different city, the little MC was purposefully being a little shit and ignored her.

3.That's a personal take that i don't share.
I have my childhood friends still in contact(the important ones anyway), some of them have children now and i'm an "uncle"... Women come and go, they are for life.


4.A relationship that begins with lies and intent to deceit is one i will never be able to fully trust, certainly not long term material(if that's important to you).
Alexis omits with intent to gain from it, Erynn's omission only hurts her and is made out of shame.

5.Your criticisms of Erynn are fair. She's a broken person at this point, she wants a way out but has an inability to act, that certainly can be a red flag to many.

Oops, I forgot about Erynn trying to contact MC via letter. Don‘t necessarily disagree with your other points either — people can reasonably disagree about how much emphasis they want to place on friendships v. relationships, etc. I suppose that’s why we like lots of choices in a VN. In the end, the heart wants what the heart wants.

 

[Nurikabe]

Ah i get it, think with the head that's not above the shoulders and just get laid .... Think Like Zach and Ethan then.
Gunna pass on that but thanks anyways.

I recall playing a game some time ago where you could beat the shit out of a bully until he actually turns into a sissified gurl. LOL

 

[Canto Forte]

Eyrin is knd enough adn thoughtful and gets MC a place to stay, but then Ethan comes knocking and MC is gone.
Eyrin never asks MC out, even tho bffs should not be sqeamish about such trivial things.
MC is still the weak small kid she would not show herself with. What a shitty attitude.
When MC keeps getting beat up all around this game, babes expect him to be getting up.
Making a girl save him in the last fight just shows: if the babes are whatever, oblivious to the fact
MC is getting beat up good for their mistakes, for being with them, while taking him for granted,
there is no one good thing in that relationship to build on. So this is exactly the same sex and good bye
shtick in the girls minds also. MC is not taking advantage, he is there to offer the quick medicine of sex for aching girls.
We have already established how pointless are any and all MC efforts to make babes lives better.
All he can offer is himself to make them spend some quelity time together, before the game gets them.

 

[MrD812]

I recall playing a game some time ago where you could beat the shit out of a bully until he actually turns into a sissified gurl. LOL

WOW that really musta' been an eye-opener of sorts

 

[Nurikabe]

WOW that really musta' been an eye-opener of sorts

As a player, you are so pissed at this guy that you want to just punch the crap out of him. And I just kept hitting and hitting. Every time it gave me the option I hit him more. Then he turns into a sissy. Very funny and therapeutic.