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Nurikabe

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I know this post will probably get a lot of facepalm reactions, but I honestly don't give a shit at this point.

This is a good game, I really like a lot of the characters and the girls look amazing.
I also accept the vision a developer has for his/her game, I don't mean to tell them what to do, I don't mean to pressure them, but I do have my opinion. They are like assholes, everybody has one.

For me, while I am completely fine with a game having no harem route or incest, what really irks me here is that the game most definitely plays with incest as a turn-on and fetish, only to then read that the dev is absolutely against incest, and it will never happen.
This reminds me in a bad way of another game with a similar approach, which I really don't like by now, WVM.
If you as a dev don't want or don't plan for incest in your game, don't fucking play with it, it reeks of a cheap gimmick to either lure in incest fans hoping for more or at the least flipping incest fans the bird.

Which brings me to my second point, no one can blame a dev for writing characters that the players like and want the MC to be with, on the contrary, that is a good thing, and it speaks for the dev's abilities.
But of course it is a disappointment if you are only able to pursue a single girl, while being able to start something with basically EVERY female character you encounter. Again, the way you can keep on balancing all these girls for a long time, hints at an option of there being a route for more than one girl, and again, it is completely shut down by what the dev says.
And here's where I really have some beef with this game. No harem, fine. No incest, fine. But these games are after all wish fulfilment, if you want realism, it's basically impossible to be the big hero or the one all women fall for (and I know there are a few of these games, even though they are not for me). So the game is already not that realistic, plus we live in a society by now, where the concept of polyamory exists and where there are relationships, even families with more than two partners.
To introduce basically dozens of interesting girls, but not give the option to at least have some polyamorous relationships available, seems restrictive, seems to go against the whole idea of games being wish-fulfilment (when everything else about this game clearly is exactly that, all women want the MC, all of them look like models etc..) and definitely seems like a waste of opportunities.

I happen to like harem games, but I don't like the WVM-type of game where all girls just fall for the MC and accept to share him without any problem. I like it when you have a relatively small number of possible candidates and you slowly, carefully have to move towards it and only when you do everything right, you get the girls to accept it.
And to be honest, this is a route that this game could very well have taken. Not with all the possible LIs, but with a few of them at once.

This isn't my game, this is Nyx's game, and she has to tell the story she wants to tell, I accept that, but I do have the right to my opinion that this is such a waste, to really offer only single LI routes, especially when it means you will at the end have to literally make dozens of playthroughs to get to endings with all the different girls.
And while some of you might not believe this, up until now I haven't spent any time reading through this thread and had so far thought that there would at least be a route with several girls ending up in a relationship with the MC at once, BECAUSE that is where the game with all that navigating and careful manoeuvring seemed to lead to.
Yes, there were one or two either or options, but for the most part, you could keep things going with almost all girls so far and for nine chapters in, that is a weird thing to be possible, if there aren't at least a few polyamorous options.

I don't like the idea of hurting so many sweet girls either way, so for me, while I still like this game, I will now wait until it is finished (if that happens) before I go and play through different possible routes. I have no interest in navigating this course until the point of no return, at least not, when I basically have to make singular playthroughs for all options.
If there was at least a system, where you could start each chapter, with set relationships, like in "Where the heart is," that would be different OR if there was a warning before each really important choice that will lead to closed routes or relationships breaking up. Then you could limit the playthroughs to a few up to a decisive moment, and it would be easier to manage and keep track of.
Dude, there is no incest. Maybe you chose to play your MC with a little pervy side? Peek in on his mom? That does not make any part of this game "play with incest." There is no incest. Did you see an incest tag?

Hurting girls? You only hurt girls if you go after more than one and lie about it. If you choose a girl and stick with her, then everyone else is fine with it. People have complained that they don't get how nice the girls are and they just let you date someone else. Layla, for example, when told the truth takes it very well. Nikki/Cara cry a little but move on. But play like an ass...go for two girls at the same time...that ends poorly — as it should.

Polyamory? Really? This is not a harem game. Did you see a harem tag?

I get it. You are voicing your opinion. You have a very specific type of game you like. Best of luck with that.

If the MC has an affair with Zach's sister. Will he do it for revenge or the developer will put the MC to rekindle the friendship with Zach. All this for him to have contact with Zach's sister. I prefer the revenge option.
The MC is not going to go after Zach's sister. First, it is his friend's sister. Second, she is screwing the coach.

Is it possible to avoid all the drama with Erynn ? I choose to protect my grocery and not help her in that alley but now I still have to fight with Ethan?
This story is about the MC and Erynn. You chose to protect your groceries over protecting one of the protagonists and main LI? You want to avoid the drama? This is a dramatic story. Ethan is a prick and you will have to fight him. He is the antagonist.
 

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Like no matter how close they seem to be getting, you are not doing anything wrong by romancing 12 girls because she is not officially your girlfriend yet, right? Meh.. That works up to an extent, but most games like this with a "good guy" MC that lets you play the field and then pick one suffers from this unnatural "romance."
This is how modern dating works for both men and women
 
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Well i totaly hate the ending, so far i disliked the drama with those men, but the other stories made em somewhat barable, this ending with the latest update...well i dont know what the creator is thinking, but i can already see how it goes down from here, the police finds my phone wich was taken by that dude, only to lure her into her own demise, they pin it on me becouse of the phone, i get arrested..game over......so guys you only have to expect one more update and then its the end of the story. that is unless the creator desides to revise his current ending.
 
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As I've been reading, y'all keep pointing out it isn't a harem game. So far, I've been following the WT Mod, and it has the MC flirting with everyone. Will I be able to gently let those I don't want to go after down easily? Or does the WT Mod make you an true asshole to them?
 
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You mean, could she have made Erynn?
Yes, Erynn can be annoying thanks to her dumb plotline, but I still her find vastly more intelligent than Zach and certainly more attractive. Zach is just gross and acts like a mentally challenged toddler.

I don't know why people think Erynn is dead, there is no way that happened. Her plot is still evolving...plus she still has to become a proper love interest. Her part is far from over. Nyx has to try and redeem her now after making her seem a bad choice.
 
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Nice update. I like the fact that if you're honest with Nikki about either dating Layla or Alexis, she doesn't trip, instead she accepts it and you can still continue her path and Alexis or Laylas path simultaneously..for now at least.

The only thing that I would complain about is Zack. I've always wished that he could just feck off. I would've preferred the MCs other friend(the one back in the old Town) to have been in the game instead but unfortunately we are stuck with a "child" who blames other people for his misfortunes. This takes me back to a "friend" I had in high school named Rowen. The dude was almost exactly like Zack when it came to girls(actually he was worse)and whenever the girls he liked showed interest in me or my other friends instead, he'd give us all the silent treatment for a week lol.. Like what 18 year old does that?? It's pathetic.
Anyways I really hope Nyx won't force the player to reconcile with him after the shit he pulled. If it was up to me I don't even want any kind of patty revenge, I'd really just like for the MC to move on from Zack completely. But I have a feeling he has something to do with Erynn's disappearance. He did show a lot of interest in her and he knows she's the MCs friend. He's also dumb enough to easily be minipulated by the douchbag clan so there's that as well.
 
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Nurikabe

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As I've been reading, y'all keep pointing out it isn't a harem game. So far, I've been following the WT Mod, and it has the MC flirting with everyone. Will I be able to gently let those I don't want to go after down easily? Or does the WT Mod make you an true asshole to them?
You are safe. Just don't try to keep Alexis and Layla. Make a choice of one and you will be fine!
 
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The only thing that I would complain about is Zack. I've always wished that he could just feck off. I would've preferred the MCs other friend(the one back in the old Town) to have been in the game instead but unfortunately we are stuck with a "child" who blames other people for his misfortunes. This takes me back to a "friend" I had in high school named Rowen. The dude was almost exactly like Zack when it came to girls(actually he was worse)and whenever the girls he liked showed interest in me or my other friends instead, he'd give us all the silent treatment for a week lol.. Like what 18 year old does that?? It's pathetic.
Anyways I really hope Nyx won't force the player to reconcile with him after the shit he pulled. If it was up to me I don't even want any kind of patty revenge, I'd really just like for the MC to move on from Zack completely. But I have a feeling he has something to do with Erynn's disappearance. He did show a lot of interest in her and he knows she's the MCs friend. He's also dumb enough to easily be minipulated by the douchbag clan so there's that as well.
I always considered Zack to be a weird kind of comic relief character in the story. He's basically an idiot who tries way too hard both with the girls and to act cool, resulting in the reverse effect of what he's hoping to accomplish. In that regard he reminds me a bit of Derek from "Being a DIK". Whether you think he's funny or not is of course entirely subjective, but he certainly makes the MC look good and mature.

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LionHeart 95

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Please put reviews in the review section where they belong even without a rating we would read it there but not here bye
 

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Ok thanks for heads up.
Ethan showed a video taken of the sex act happen "how did he get it" that is the question to know as how did he know it was going to happen, and where. also who did the video need to be known as that will put the nail in the coffin of who is to blame was her so called Ex involved. hear how he keeps asking for others to get their Gf to do lewd acts for/ to him.
 
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I always considered Zack to be a weird kind of comic relief character in the story. He's basically an idiot who tries way too hard both with the girls and to act cool, resulting in the reverse effect of what he's hoping to accomplish. In that regard he reminds me a bit of Derek from "Being a DIK". Whether you think he's funny or not is of course entirely subjective, but he certainly makes the MC look good and mature.

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I did a run and Val showed up not john and got her hair pulled tell Zach that and he might change but he is going away for a while he said during camp so will he be back to tell? but now he wont believe it Zach is a NPC that cant learn even from the Girls as they tell him how so I say you turn on me Goodbye

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J.R.

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You're fake news. She wasn't clear from the beginning.

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You are technically right - in your mentioned but almost two year old post from the very first game version there was an attempt for maybe incest later on (you got + mom points peeking at her). But that was already removed again with the second game release (since then you get - points doing the same). The whole game has changed drastically since the first version, eg Alexis wasn't even planned to be a main girl, only a side chick in the EP1 plain flight.
 

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You are technically right - in your mentioned but almost two year old post from the very first game version there was an attempt for maybe incest later on (you got + mom points peeking at her). But that was already removed again with the second game release (since then you get - points doing the same). The whole game has changed drastically since the first version, eg Alexis wasn't even planned to be a main girl, only a side chick in the EP1 plain flight.
You're right. But it wasn't out of the question from the beginning. Though the MC can be too close to his mother for a non-incest game and that may send wrong signals.
 

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You're right. But it wasn't out of the question from the beginning. Though the MC can be too close to his mother for a non-incest game and that may send wrong signals.
As said, that was the very first attempt from Nyx for developing a game (your link is even the first post she made on F95). But at least since the second version it was clear that there is no icest in the game, neither a harem ending.
 
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