VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.13] [Nyx]

[dolfe67]

I hate blackmail so bad in this games, it's always so dumb.
Why the the person being blackmailed are never being blackmailed for doing something wrong that will actually put them in trouble if it comes out? It gets to a point where the damage done by the blackmail is far worse than the damage that would be done otherwise. That's so dumb.
What was Ethan going to do with the video, anyway? ...Was he going to show it to Erynn's family? Was he going to distribute a copy to every place she gets a job? Was he going to upload it to some amateur porn site?
It's not like Ethan have means to to publish the video on prime-time TV for everyone to see.
Erynn said Ethan pushed all her friends away growing up, she can just have a makeover, leave everything behind and start again somewhere else. No one would recognize her.
I doubt there is a guy out there that would recognize the porn "actress" of some movie recorded by a cellphone camera, that he watched once in a amateur porn site, even if he meet her on the street.

You have to suspend your disbelief for that plot to happen. Though there are several cases IRL where a girl (generally young) is blackmailed into sex with a nude of her.

 

[NewTricks]

I've not jumped to any conclusions regarding the video that was shown by Ethan because Erryn hasn't seen it. Which as MC pointed out, is silly. Who knows who is in the video? But since

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I also don't care much. If Erynn had a normal sexually active life, which often includes sleeping with people you regret doing it with, that's fine. If she was blackmailed into sex with people she didn't want to do it with in the first place that is certainly less fine. Any way you slice it, Ethan is slime and needs a good bruising.

 

[Nikki Klein]

One thing makes me upset.

We all remember perfectly well what happens at the beginning of Episode 8, when the MC plays a double game with two best friends and finds himself involved in a big tearful drama. As a result, he breaks both their hearts and is left with nothing.

In fact, we end up with two main LIs. Okay, it's pretty clear to get. But the game doesn't end there. But we can't not interact with them at all after that in such a storyline which is even called Intertwined (logically). And I really was and still am interested in finding out what will happen next.

And so, after John helps us beat up Ethan and his buffoons, we see the familiar scene with the conversation at a bar. And here I really hoped to read something like this: I promised I'll be here for her and help her figure it all out. But then some shit happened. I cheated on her with her best friend and lied to both of them, and they found out about it accidentally. They both broke up with me that morning (in another case, Lexi did it later on the phone). Erynn and I didn't see or talk from that moment. I have no idea what to do now. I have to and promised to help her, but will she want to accept my help after what I did...?

But it triggered the way as if the MC's refused to help her with blackmailing (???). I can get it that technically we lost Erynn back then. But then why is there a distortion of in-game reality? It turns out that Erynn's story was over, but it still continues artificially and in a different scenario? So bad the plot here doesn't develop based on the experience really happened... Or is there still hope?

 

[Puma1978]

One of the good things about the Alexis path is that it is very believable and easy to understand. She meets a guy who she thinks is hot, only to find out that it was someone she knew as a kid who she thought was adorable and sweet. She's a bit conflicted because knows that she should tell him the truth about her and Erynn, but she decides to be a little bit selfish and things quickly spiral into a bigger problem. From there, she just keeps avoiding the problem by putting it off and telling herself that she can deal with it later when the time is right. Everyone knows how is it is to get stuck in a procrastination loop, so even if people think she is being foolish, they can at least understand why she keeps freezing up like a deer in the headlights instead of biting the bullet. She's afraid that all of the fun she's having will come to an end when she tells the truth, so she just wants to hold on a bit longer. It's selfish, but understandable.

Another good example of a simple and effective path is the one for Elena. She meets a nice guy, but never considers him as a potential boyfriend because she's too busy for one. He starts to date her best friend, which leads to them spending a lot of time together. She sees how nice he is, and has a lot of fun with him, and starts to get feelings for him. Which puts her in an awkward position because she also sees how happy her friend is and doesn't want to ruin that. It's simple, easy to follow, and understandable.

An example of a route that's a bit too complicated and difficult to understand would be Erynn's path. There are a bunch of small details that make it different from a standard love triangle, and it gets a bit too convoluted for me. I don't understand how Ethan could almost break up Alexis and Erynn by claiming to have slept with Alexis? Why would Erynn be upset by that if it was before Ethan started blackmailing her? And how does Erynn think that we can save her from Ethan if we aren't allowed to say or do anything about it? And when did she start to view the MC in a romantic way? Did she call dibs on him sometime in the five years they weren't in contact with each other? He was only twelve when he left, so that would be a bit odd, no?

There's a lot of unanswered questions about Erynn, and they keep me from getting invested in her story. Maybe things will change when some of these questions are answered, but for now I just don't care.

You are fully right...i can read the story like that Erynn never was with Ethan but she got upset and broke up friendship with Alexis when Ethan claimed she slept with him. Thats unlogic. I also dont understand if at the time when MC arrives Alexis and Erynn are still best friends or already seperated by Ethans blackmailing. Its too weird. I just found that for Alexis the Dev has spent her time to really implement her girlfriend path most thouroughly until the current end of game. The thing with the flowers and first kiss were very deep. Even a special approach to Iris you can experience with Alexis.

 

[Canto Forte]

MC naver had any agency in this whole game when it comes to ethan and his antics.
MC is thrown out while ethan is let inside. Remember that scenes, it shows what it is like for MC.
MC cannot insinuate himself into her life, as she keeps kicking him out.
Much like in his youth, he is out as a romantic interest, broke, upset and hurt to his core.
Much like us, the players, MC has no way of any meaningful intervention once she shuts him out.
Just like parents about a kid upset - he/she will never listen to a word they say.
Remember MC never listenes to a word his ma sayd after he shut her out.
MC never listened to anyhting about eyrin once she chose to stay and talk to ethan and simply ignored MC on his own birthday, which she ditched in favor of hanging out with ethan ... why would she not care about MC at all and hang with the
big boys and girls who have systematically driven MC out of her life .. now it got permanent.
Thanks a lot Eyrin!

 

[Puma1978]

I hate blackmail so bad in this games, it's always so dumb.
Why the the person being blackmailed are never being blackmailed for doing something wrong that will actually put them in trouble if it comes out? It gets to a point where the damage done by the blackmail is far worse than the damage that would be done otherwise. That's so dumb.
What was Ethan going to do with the video, anyway? ...Was he going to show it to Erynn's family? Was he going to distribute a copy to every place she gets a job? Was he going to upload it to some amateur porn site?
It's not like Ethan have means to to publish the video on prime-time TV for everyone to see.
Erynn said Ethan pushed all her friends away growing up, she can just have a makeover, leave everything behind and start again somewhere else. No one would recognize her.
I doubt there is a guy out there that would recognize the porn "actress" of some movie recorded by a cellphone camera, that he watched once in a amateur porn site, even if he meet her on the street.

I think i remember that the case is this " Was he going to distribute a copy to every place she gets a job? "
Erynn wants to apply for her dreamjob and Ethan would probably distribute it there and destry her d ream.

 

[Canto Forte]

Nothing so dramatic. Ethan got her hired at his folks” place of business .. like any former employer,
they can fkk up her life with any other future employer by distributing ethan”s lies and photo/vidoe montages.
They own her now, with enough photo material and business proof of her extra services to fkk her future.
Welcome to the model life where you can get hired or fired on a whim.

 

[AsherLikeYou]

Am I the only one who doesn't completely care about Erynn?

 

[Canto Forte]

She is in the story ... from the beginning ... gets into your face, gets into your girl face,
she is the one who ditched both you and Alexis for ethan. She likes all the attention.
She believes you and Alexis should be hers to toy with, when she is not with ethan, that is.
Your ma cares about her. Your ma bff cares about her. Not too much tho, she is that possessive.

 

[Nurikabe]

Problem with any of her antics is that MC is kept wanting but fed up with her rejections.
Right now, MC is a bomb of rage because she is essentially cucking him with all the other guys.
This game is well made to push MC further and further away, which she does every chance she gets.
MC cannot get too much of a win here and there before she goes out with some other dude.
MC is helpless and is angry to feel so much of what he is and what he does just does not register with her.
In his life, he broke any and all communications once she showed him she was more interested in ethan,
that has not changed, time and time again she shows MC she is more interested in ethan,
whatever the interes is, much more invested in that dude, the same one she rejected MC over,
than she ever showed interest in MC.


Even removing any ill intent from ethan .. .
Would you pursue a girl you had passion for if she spent that much time with someone from work?
The same guy she rejected you for? The same guy she had all the time and effort and passion to spend with,
whatever they talked about, she wanted to cater to that dude first and MC was and still is on the last place.


She treated MC like a homeless childhood friend she felt and still feels sorry for.
MC is angry with himself as he cannot let himself just forget about her and dissapear again.
On the other hand, there can never be any healthy relationship with a girl who disses MC so cathegorically,
while still to this day dating and going out and spending the time with ethan rather than MC.

Who is Erynn going out with? When is she doing this?

 

[Canto Forte]

MC finds her lunching with ethan in a caffee. She kicks MC out and right then and there comes ethan strolling
past MC to go inside her home. Guess she had some home dating left to do with ethan. Work related?
It felt so much more heartbreakingly more than work related to MC.
Pile on all those work dates she is escorting dudes left and right at events. Those are dates for everyone else.
MC does not know that she is paid or whatever to go sit at this or that guy”s arm in parties where people go to relax.
She is not giving MC any explanation, not a thing.
No insight.
All MC gets is all the hurt, time and time and again, pressing on him to pummel his feelings and his self esteem into the dirt.

 

[Nurikabe]

So you are referring to this scene:

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[Nurikabe]

Or Maybe you jumped to the same conclusion as the MC?

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[Nurikabe]

Pile on all those work dates she is escorting dudes left and right at events. Those are dates for everyone else.

She is not giving MC any explanation, not a thing.
No insight.

Being forced to be arm candy is not a date and is damaging Erynn. She is being forced to do it because of Ethan's blackmail. And later we learn that he is a lot worse than committing simple blackmail.

This is all in a simple point-and-click story. You can read it all on your own. It is certainly more entertaining than the story you are making up!

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[SolarEclipsed]

Being forced to be arm candy is not a date and is damaging Erynn. She is being forced to do it because of Ethan's blackmail. And later we learn that he is a lot worse than committing simple blackmail.

This is all in a simple point-and-click story. You can read it all on your own. It is certainly more entertaining than the story you are making up!

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I would stop this guy has taken 2 + 2 and got 42

 

[M'95]

I would stop this guy has taken 2 + 2 and got 42

Well since 42 is the "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything" he is basicly right then

 

[Puma1978]

She is in the story ... from the beginning ... gets into your face, gets into your girl face,
she is the one who ditched both you and Alexis for ethan. She likes all the attention.
She believes you and Alexis should be hers to toy with, when she is not with ethan, that is.
Your ma cares about her. Your ma bff cares about her. Not too much tho, she is that possessive.

Erynn i can accept as a friend i care about but to me its not possible to accept her as girlfriend over Alexis.
If u join fll alexis path everything is more logic and at the end she joins you also to search for Erynn and repair her relationship to her. I can imagine that Erynn will get sick of men after Ethan and becomes gay or bi and will end up in a relationship with Iris. As long rumors about the two being sisters are not true.

 

[Canto Forte]

-Getting sick of men would actually work wonders to get her outta the sex tape entanglement.
-Her in that tape could be underage in many US states.
-Victim of blackmail trumps whatever the vid is - not in victims mids, but for real.
-Iris is the aggressive grab other girls and molest them until they turn lez kind of bully.
-Boooo!

 

[Raziel_8]

Am I the only one who doesn't completely care about Erynn?

Nah, i still rather protect the groceries than helping Erynn. Couldn't care less about her, or what happens to her.

 

[Canto Forte]

MC is like her boy toy .. every time she acts like she has to talk all these important things with ethan,
then runs after MC like he is this little boy who cannot understand her talking adult stuff with ethan.
MC feels just hopelessly underage, underestimated, treated like he cannot understand what is he supposed to do?