VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[Tremonia]

How come Navarro alias Santiago/Mc's dad/Gabi's (likely Husband or Bro)/Alexis and Layla's dad all be same?

They're not the same. I thought that myself a long time, but it doesn't fit anymore. Navarro is Gabi's (soon-to-be-ex)husband, but not the (step)dad from Layla and Alexis. That would be Zo.

 

[HiP1]

According to the story,
Flashback - Emily is 18 (Had MC at 18), Melissa is 20 (Had Erynn at 18), Adriana (Always busy may be she had Alexis) are freshman and are kind of room mates.
Erynn and MC are 3 years apart. After Santiago knows Emily is pregnant, Santi's parents came and said Emily that "they have their whole lives ahead and they offered money", Emily rejected and had MC (MC called Andres dad and then the PROMISE to not tell him).

Present - Alexis and Erynn are sophomores and are best friends. Alexis is older than MC. MC and Layla are in same class. MC can do anyone.
Gabi's relationship with Navarro isn't established yet according to these photos.
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How come Navarro alias Santiago/Mc's dad/Gabi's (likely Husband or Bro)/Alexis and Layla's dad all be same?

Am I correct? or Am I missing some plot in the game?

My theory is either Santiago is a Player alias Manwhore or there is some plot hole in this story.

Right order (May be):
First: Navarro + Adriana (Highschool and college) -> Alexis (Before MC)
Second: Navarro + Emily (Highschool and college) -> MC (Navarro may be cheating)
Third: Navarro + Adriana (After Emily) -> Layla (May be both Emily and Adriana are pregnant at the same time)
Fourth: Navarro + Gabi (Either bro/husband) -> Navarro may be cheating again all these years. So Gabi got divorced.

It doesn't seem like Navarro is Alexis and Layla's step dad (reason being they are very close in the game like a real dad and daughter)

My verdict: This is either a brilliant game or a weird story game where friends don't talk to each other.

My plot hole points:
1. As Emily said that she met Santiago a few times, she would have asked who did he marry?
2. Why would Emily want to date John? (Erynn's dad)
3. Who is Gabi to Navarro? (Husband or Brother)
4. Do Adriana and Gabi not talk about their lives (husbands)?
5. Do Melissa and Adriana not talk about their lives (husbands)?
6. As Alexis and Erynn are best friends, do they not talk about their moms? (Emily doesn't even know Adriana is Alexis mom and a principal of that school)
7. As Melissa and Emily are best friends, do they not talk about their Ex-husbands? Like what are they doing?

There are still many plot holes wandering in my mind. God knows what developer is thinking. I need clarification.

if MC and Erynn have 3 years apart, then Emily had MC at 19. she is pregnant at 18.
Adrianna confirmed during a dinner at the restaurant to her daughters that she was taking care of Alexis with her parents most of the time, and only went back to the dorm to study and to attend some events.
We don't know Adrianna's age. but we know Alexis is the same age as Erynn as they were in the same class very young.

now that we know Santiago is MC's dad, Gabi can't be Santiago's wife as then it would mean MC fucked his stepmother, which is against Patreon rules. she might be his current lover. but she stated that she is married. i don't think we saw a ring, so she might say that to reject men and to stay faithful to her lover ?

for the same reason, Santiago can't be Alexis and Layla's dad either. that cliffhanger is just Alexis not finishing her sentence and MC going full throttle in his mind without waiting for the end of their talk.

Adrianna is married to something else, and had her daughter with that guy. it's probably Enzo (the basketball legend), who retired from his club early to focus on his family.

Ximena (Val's mom) also knows Santiago. and she seems to know Andres too when Gabi called MC by his last name.

Gabi seems to be lonely and neglected, not cheated on.

so it's most likely that Santiago used to be a player when he was young, but he was too busy when he became an agent.

1. when he met with Emily, they mostly talked about MC, that's what she told MC.
2. because he is handsome, with a good personality, and a responsible parent. but mostly because he is handsome and hot.
3. lover and/or previous client during her sport career
4. they don't seem to be friends outside of the school, so their relationship is professional.
5. why would they ? they only met briefly during college, and maybe a bit when Adrianna drove Alexis to play with Erynn. and why would it matter anyway ? Melissa is not married.
6. Emily does know that Adrianna is Alexis' mother. but Erynn stopped visiting after MC left. so Emily forgot about Alexis. but when Adrianna comes with her daughters to the restaurant, Emily can see both daughers, and she is not surprised and doesn't need an introduction. and what does Emily has to do with Alexis and Erynn talking about their moms ? Alexis knows Melissa well enough, she visited often. Erynn knows Adrianna and her husband, she also visited often. Emily is not the mother of either Alexis or Erynn, so your comment there is weird.
7. Melissa never married, it was a one night stand. She doesn't know anything about him except what he looked like and his first name, and she told both to Emily, you can see it in the flashback. And Melissa knows both Andres and Santiago, she knows Andres very well as they were neighbors, and you know Emily talks about everything with Melissa. Even about the "secret" promise.
it seems you think those are plot holes because you didn't follow the story very well maybe ? or you made assumptions and didn't correct them later when the facts were revealed ?

 

[HiP1]

They're not the same. I thought that myself a long time, but it doesn't fit anymore. Navarro is Gabi's (soon-to-be-ex)husband, but not the (step)dad from Layla and Alexis. That would be Zo.

Gabi can't be married to Navarro, because it would mean MC fucked his stepmother, then it would be instant ban from Patreon and Steam.

 

[cxx]

now that we know Santiago is MC's dad, Gabi can't be Santiago's wife as then it would mean MC fucked his stepmother, which is against Patreon rules. she might be his current lover. but she stated that she is married. i don't think we saw a ring, so she might say that to reject men and to stay faithful to her lover ?

for the same reason, Santiago can't be Alexis and Layla's dad either. that cliffhanger is just Alexis not finishing her sentence and MC going full throttle in his mind without waiting for the end of their talk.

SAYS WHO???!!!

nyx will milk that for a couple updates.

 

[HiP1]

SAYS WHO???!!!

nyx will milk that for a couple updates.

Patreon and Steam.
if Nyx wants to continue the ambiguity, more power to her. but rules are already clear about what she can't do.

 

[cxx]

Patreon and Steam.
if Nyx wants to continue the ambiguity, more power to her. but rules are already clear about what she can't do.

steam doesn't give a fuck about incest only that chars don't look too young to imply that there's underagers sex (aka mc and iris originally). patreon does but still nothing about against patreon's rules since incest is just speculation.

 

[HiP1]

steam doesn't give a fuck about incest only that chars don't look too young to imply that there's underagers sex (aka mc and iris originally). patreon does but still nothing about against patreon's rules since incest is just speculation.

Sure Steam might allow incest for now, but it can change in the future. what I meant was that both of those platforms' rules are the base reference for what you can expect from a story in adult games.

Nyx can play with the speculation and tease players all she wants, but in the end, she cannot go the incest route, whether biologically or "just" legally related, so the teasing loses all its power.

she can also play on Val's father. Ximena knows Andres... and now Andres is no longer related in anyway to MC. can Val be Andres' daughter ? that would be flirting very close to the line. but then it would mean that Andres prioritized his revenge against Santiago over his own kid, which would make him even more fucked up and allow for more dunking on Andres xD

 

[Dark Silence]

Decided to catch up and got this error. Any idea on wtf?

I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/episode_11.rpy", line 3399, in script
    if Elena_Week5_Monday_Beach == False:
  File "game/episode_11.rpy", line 3399, in <module>
    if Elena_Week5_Monday_Beach == False:
NameError: name 'Elena_Week5_Monday_Beach' is not defined

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/episode_11.rpy", line 3399, in script
    if Elena_Week5_Monday_Beach == False:
  File "F:\VNs\Intertwined\Intertwined-0.12.3\renpy\ast.py", line 2133, in execute
    if renpy.python.py_eval(condition):
  File "F:\VNs\Intertwined\Intertwined-0.12.3\renpy\python.py", line 1153, in py_eval
    return py_eval_bytecode(code, globals, locals)
  File "F:\VNs\Intertwined\Intertwined-0.12.3\renpy\python.py", line 1146, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/episode_11.rpy", line 3399, in <module>
    if Elena_Week5_Monday_Beach == False:
NameError: name 'Elena_Week5_Monday_Beach' is not defined

Windows-10-10.0.19045 AMD64
Ren'Py 8.1.0.23051307
Intertwined 0.12
Sun Apr  7 20:29:59 2024

 

[Kond]

According to the story,
Flashback - Emily is 18 (Had MC at 18), Melissa is 20 (Had Erynn at 18), Adriana (Always busy may be she had Alexis) are freshman and are kind of room mates.
Erynn and MC are 3 years apart. After Santiago knows Emily is pregnant, Santi's parents came and said Emily that "they have their whole lives ahead and they offered money", Emily rejected and had MC (MC called Andres dad and then the PROMISE to not tell him).

Present - Alexis and Erynn are sophomores and are best friends. Alexis is older than MC. MC and Layla are in same class. MC can do anyone.
Gabi's relationship with Navarro isn't established yet according to these photos.
View attachment 3518268 View attachment 3518216 View attachment 3518243

How come Navarro alias Santiago/Mc's dad/Gabi's (likely Husband or Bro)/Alexis and Layla's dad all be same?

Am I correct? or Am I missing some plot in the game?

My theory is either Santiago is a Player alias Manwhore or there is some plot hole in this story.

Right order (May be):
First: Navarro + Adriana (Highschool and college) -> Alexis (Before MC)
Second: Navarro + Emily (Highschool and college) -> MC (Navarro may be cheating)
Third: Navarro + Adriana (After Emily) -> Layla (May be both Emily and Adriana are pregnant at the same time)
Fourth: Navarro + Gabi (Either bro/husband) -> Navarro may be cheating again all these years. So Gabi got divorced.

It doesn't seem like Navarro is Alexis and Layla's step dad (reason being they are very close in the game like a real dad and daughter)

My verdict: This is either a brilliant game or a weird story game where friends don't talk to each other.

My plot hole points:
1. As Emily said that she met Santiago a few times, she would have asked who did he marry?
2. Why would Emily want to date John? (Erynn's dad)
3. Who is Gabi to Navarro? (Husband or Brother)
4. Do Adriana and Gabi not talk about their lives (husbands)?
5. Do Melissa and Adriana not talk about their lives (husbands)?
6. As Alexis and Erynn are best friends, do they not talk about their moms? (Emily doesn't even know Adriana is Alexis mom and a principal of that school)
7. As Melissa and Emily are best friends, do they not talk about their Ex-husbands? Like what are they doing?

There are still many plot holes wandering in my mind. God knows what developer is thinking. I need clarification.

im lost on all the age setting, but could the guy in the picture be Gaby's father? In that picture when she was younger the dude already has a few white hairs if you look closely. And gaby is just 26 iirc.....dont know if it makes sense story wise.

 

[Raziel_8]

Gabi can't be married to Navarro, because it would mean MC fucked his stepmother, then it would be instant ban from Patreon and Steam.

They could have been married and got divorced, would explain why Gabi removed Santi's picture and why Gabi and Ximena are celebrating.
Also no stepcest.

Patreon and Steam.
if Nyx wants to continue the ambiguity, more power to her. but rules are already clear about what she can't do.

Steam doesn't care about incest, but is really anal about anything which includes underaged characters, as well as anything including high school and sex with high school girls, saying they are 18y old doesn't really change that.

im lost on all the age setting

Well yeah, add to that Nyx is happily rewriting story parts again, changing the age...so you will now have a 20y old high schooler MC, which is likely nearing 21 when graduating
Also Erynn and MC should be nearly the same age now...which makes more problems with the flashbacks, as the MC was too young to hang out with the ''cool'' kids, before the rewrite.

 

[Dark Silence]

Well yeah, add to that Nyx is happily rewriting the story parts again, changing the age...so you will now have a 20y old high schooler MC, which is likely nearing 21 when graduating

Hmm and apparently, accordin to some in this thread, that's normal age for a senior.

 

[luckyluca01]

I HATE FLASHBACKS!!!!

 

[Dessolos]

Also Erynn and MC should be nearly the same age now...which makes more problems with the flashbacks, as the MC was too young to hang out with the ''cool'' kids, before the rewrite.

Could still easily say Erynn and Alexis are 2-3 years older. Could be something simple as they are in their later college years or they didn't go to college right away. Only thing that might be weird with the flashback is the look of the models giving the age increase.

 

[Tremonia]

Gabi can't be married to Navarro, because it would mean MC fucked his stepmother, then it would be instant ban from Patreon and Steam.

No. That's not correct. At first Steam allows way more than Patreon.

You must be registered to see the links

But even on Patreon you don't got banned for sexual content between two consenting adults which aren't blood related. Step relationship is okay, like Chasing Sunsets for example. Some devs thought they're smart and offered patches or even an official "taboo" version which they put on other platforms. That's not allowed by Patreon's rules. They don't let you fund for an blood related incest game by proxy.

 

[satoru99999]

No. That's not correct. At first Steam allows way more than Patreon.

You must be registered to see the links

But even on Patreon you don't got banned for sexual content between two consenting adults which aren't blood related. Step relationship is okay, like Chasing Sunsets for example. Some devs thought they're smart and offered patches or even an official "taboo" version which they put on other platforms. That's not allowed by Patreon's rules. They don't let you fund for an blood related incest game by proxy.

Gabi and Santiago are probably engaged hence the picture with white dress and not a traditional wedding dress as i have seen women wear different white dresses when they get engaged. And since engagement its not like marriage that would allow sex between MC and Gabi without being considered incest.

 

[hakuna-matata]

Hmm and apparently, accordin to some in this thread, that's normal age for a senior.

It is normal, have you watched Grease?

 

[Jacowboy]

Hmm and apparently, accordin to some in this thread, that's normal age for a senior.

Well, see the problem is the person you quoted can't count... they should've written "so you will now have a 19y old high schooler MC, which is likely nearing 20 when graduating"

Which is fairly common since a lot of people re-do a year for whatever reason, but also, who gives a shit, it's just all to fall in line with Patreon guidelines.

 

[Dark Silence]

Well, see the problem is the person you quoted can't count... they should've written "so you will now have a 19y old high schooler MC, which is likely nearing 20 when graduating"

Which is fairly common since a lot of people re-do a year for whatever reason, but also, who gives a shit, it's just all to fall in line with Patreon guidelines.

So, fall in line by puttin in an actual legal to drink adult into a high school. Good thinkin there. But you're right about one thing, I honestly don't give two shits. It was just to promote more discussion.

 

[HiP1]

No. That's not correct. At first Steam allows way more than Patreon.

You must be registered to see the links

But even on Patreon you don't got banned for sexual content between two consenting adults which aren't blood related. Step relationship is okay, like Chasing Sunsets for example. Some devs thought they're smart and offered patches or even an official "taboo" version which they put on other platforms. That's not allowed by Patreon's rules. They don't let you fund for an blood related incest game by proxy.

Bro, yeah I replied about Steam in an earlier comment.
and about Patreon, they used to allow step family, and it is still written as such in the official guidelines page (at least in French), but they changed it back in November 2023. Now any family relationship, blood or legal, is banned from sexual depiction. here you can check :

You must be registered to see the links

 

[HiP1]

im lost on all the age setting, but could the guy in the picture be Gaby's father? In that picture when she was younger the dude already has a few white hairs if you look closely. And gaby is just 26 iirc.....dont know if it makes sense story wise.

I don't think that's possible, because it would mean he was underage when he had her.

but he could be an uncle or a brother or a cousin. but it would be weird to have such an enormous photo of both of them displayed in Gabi's bedroom