VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[dolfe67]

Yeah sure, sorry for off-topic but my initial comment was reacting about that it's not only related to illegal stuff. Incest is illegal but allowed on Steam AFAIK

 

[flaviopaganini]

Yeah sure, sorry for off-topic but my initial comment was reacting about that it's not only related to illegal stuff. Incest is illegal but allowed on Steam AFAIK

I've played about 60 VNs on Steam, and saying that incest is allowed on Steam would be a guess on my part because what I remember is opening a form to edit the relationships in the games I have. Aren't they all like that?

 

[Maviarab]

I've played about 60 VNs on Steam, and saying that incest is allowed on Steam would be a guess on my part because what I remember is opening a form to edit the relationships in the games I have. Aren't they all like that?

Steam has no issue with incest.

Steam's biggest bugbear is schools (high school in the states specifically) as there would be a very, very small window of time where a student would still be at 'school' and also be 18. So it's a blanket ban on Steam, regardless of what the dev says the girls ages are in a disclaimer. This is no difference to the current witch hunt by authorities/customs on sex dolls also (despite there being no actual laws in place).

What you say the age is, what the manufacturer says and what it looks like...are 20 different things as it cannot be proven and is subjective to the person looking (unlike a real person who may look underage but can prove they are not a minor). However, in a 'school' setting, most likely they would not all be 18 years old (as start 'college' at 18 at the end of summer...which would be a few months after already having left 'high school').

Why this will never be on Steam without some (more) major rewrites.

 

[PickerLewd]

I didn't know about Steam and their policy on high school games .

But I think they do make exceptions because about 2 years ago I played Bully there, I don't know if you know it, but the main character is 15/16 years old and goes to a high school type boarding school.

 

[dolfe67]

I didn't know about Steam and their policy on high school games .

But I think they do make exceptions because about 2 years ago I played Bully there, I don't know if you know it, but the main character is 15/16 years old and goes to a high school type boarding school.

Only for adult games, not regular games

 

[Maviarab]

I didn't know about Steam and their policy on high school games .

But I think they do make exceptions because about 2 years ago I played Bully there, I don't know if you know it, but the main character is 15/16 years old and goes to a high school type boarding school.

Are you completely sure about that? Patch..mods maybe?

Forget the school setting, anything with an under 18 year old Steam would never in a million years allow as it's pretty much banned worlwide (like the Iris scene, would be classed as animated **). They would literally be sued out of existance and shut down by the local authorities.

 

[PickerLewd]

Are you completely sure about that? Patch..mods maybe?

Forget the school setting, anything with an under 18 year old Steam would never in a million years allow as it's pretty much banned worlwide (like the Iris scene, would be classed as animated **). They would literally be sued out of existance and shut down by the local authorities.

Yes, but dolfe67 has already answered my question, the game I'm talking about is not completely mature/for adults and therefore allowed (although you can steal panties and touch some girls' butts).

 

[Dessolos]

Yes, but dolfe67 has already answered my question, the game I'm talking about is not completely mature/for adults and therefore allowed (although you can steal panties and touch some girls' butts).

im sure also part of it is it's made by Rockstar so since it's a bigger AAA company im sure they get some more leway and passes on things like that too as steam knows it won't be a lewd game. Plus it helps it come out onto steam roughly 10 years or so before steam even allowed more adult focus / porn games on their platform. So back then it wasn't even a concern of theirs compared to now when they do allow such content.

 

[LSC82]

I did, go down that path, it is a fun path, but for me she is similar annoying as Layla, only with more Bitch factor sorry ! since I made a save for each girl I included Tory as well.

I actually think most bad blood towards Tori comes from when you are doing a Layla(+Elena) run then actually going for Tori.
When you are on Layla, Tori is a bitch with a huge chip on her shoulder, just being nasty and bitchy for no reason.

The actual Tori path is OK, she doesn't set out to antagonize you(often) and simply doesn't like wasting time, no talking, no relationship, no feelings(yet, it may come)... just fucking, very objective.
And pays no attention to you hanging out with other girls either...

Visually i think she would perhaps look better with a different hair, it's a little too short and too much blonde for her complexion.
The body is

 

[xapican]

LSC82 ; this is a point which I personally feel it is often overlooked, when talking about a AVN, and it is rather well done in this one, the characters change their attitude, towards the MC when on a different path, It is a big plus for me in this one.

 

[LSC82]

LSC82 ; this is a point which I personally feel it is often overlooked, when talking about a AVN, and it is rather well done in this one, the characters change their attitude, towards the MC when on a different path, It is a big plus for me in this one.

She has a natural bitchy attitude, but it should be no surprise that when you tell her "no thanks" to become Layla's (fake)BF she's not gonna like that...

The only thing that is really bad is the fact that the path only stays open(regardless of previous interactions) if you win the race, that one is inexcusable... and it's always going to stand in the way of attempts to humanize her.

 

[Maviarab]

I actually think most bad blood towards Tori comes from when you are doing a Layla(+Elena) run then actually going for Tori.
When you are on Layla, Tori is a bitch with a huge chip on her shoulder, just being nasty and bitchy for no reason.

The actual Tori path is OK, she doesn't set out to antagonize you(often) and simply doesn't like wasting time, no talking, no relationship, no feelings(yet, it may come)... just fucking, very objective.
And pays no attention to you hanging out with other girls either...

Visually i think she would perhaps look better with a different hair, it's a little too short and too much blonde for her complexion.
The body is

LSC82 ; this is a point which I personally feel it is often overlooked, when talking about a AVN, and it is rather well done in this one, the characters change their attitude, towards the MC when on a different path, It is a big plus for me in this one.

 

[PickerLewd]

And what about the Sha'Carry girl? The one who sportingly humiliates the girls from the MC's school.

Will she be a future ally, a villain, or will she never be seen again? .

 

[xapican]

And what about the Sha'Carry girl? The one who sportingly humiliates the girls from the MC's school.

Will she be a future ally, a villain, or will she never be seen again? .

I guess she is the key to some revelations, although she caught interest in MC during said competiton.

 

[valbitterb]

She has a natural bitchy attitude, but it should be no surprise that when you tell her "no thanks" to become Layla's (fake)BF she's not gonna like that...

The only thing that is really bad is the fact that the path only stays open(regardless of previous interactions) if you win the race, that one is inexcusable... and it's always going to stand in the way of attempts to humanize her.

Tori

https://f95zone.to/threads/intertwined-v0-12-3-nyx.53676/post-8577438

And what about the Sha'Carry girl? The one who sportingly humiliates the girls from the MC's school.

Will she be a future ally, a villain, or will she never be seen again? .

I am hoping she is a future ally or a side lady.

She pops up on the Nikki path.

On your morning beach jog with Val, Val mentions that she has Sha'Carri's phone number. (Val likes keeping her competition close.)

I am hoping Sha'Carri pops up in the next update in one of the beach scenes (Val's scene?), but she's most likely showing up in a future update at that next track competition Navarro tells the MC about at Dylan's bar.

 

[cxx]

Why this will never be on Steam without some (more) major rewrites.

well mc and iris had sex after his 18th bday (not originally but that's history), girls being at college shouldn't raise any flags as girls look older than on that high school girls game and if does then change college to university.

 

[LSC82]

Thanks mnotwoke for directing me towards this post, i think it's really smart and sums her up really well.

Tori is an underrated character. I think she gets overlooked because players dislike her for being a mean slutty bitch, but she's a well written mean slutty bitch, and that makes her one of the better characters in the game. She's quite different from the main girls, fills her current role in the story very well, and has the potential to create several differnt paths in the future.

Tori is an unabashed maneater and everyone knows it. I love how Zach (the biggest horndog in the game) is disgusted by your choice of Tori if you choose her for your answer of which girl is the hottest.

Zach: "Tori? What the hell... She isn't bad looking, I give you that. But just her reputation alone."
MC: "I know, but somehow, I don't know what exactly it is. She turns me on."
Zach: "There is something majorly wrong with you dude."
MC: "Ha ha."

and a bit later...

MC: "I think she's put a spell on me or something. I can't get her out of my head."
Zach: "There's clearly something wrong up there."

This is one of my favourite conversations in the game. It was perfect because it exactly mirrored my feeling towards Tori. There was none of the "deep down she's a nice person" foolishness. Instead, it was the classic scenario where you know something is a bad idea, but do it anyways because it's just too tempting.

There was a moment where Tori was enjoying the way the main character was kissing her neck, and she suddenly got a shocked/frightened look on her face before making him stop and saying "No-no-no... We're not doing that. You're here to eat my pussy and fuck me. That's it." That could be a set up for some sort of a melt the heart of the ice queen path with Tori in the future, but it's unlikely many players would be interested in a Tori relationship unless there was some sort of a redemption arc for her first.

A redemption arc would be a hard sell, but it could happen if she did something like help get rid of Lucas or help take down Ethan. Tori doesn't seem to be overly cruel to anyone, at least not to a cartoonishly ridiculous level that would make a redemption arc impossibly stupid. Tori is a fairly realistic mean girl antagonist, rather than an absurd characiture that you can find in another game. She hasn't blackmailed anyone into getting naked so she could push them out into the streets, tasered anyone in the throat until they passed out, or attempted to rape anyone while they were tied to a chair. She did spread some sort of hurtful rumour about Layla in the past, and she will pretend not to know you the day after you hook up. That's about it so far.

Another possible route we could see in the future would be one where Tori starts to fall for the MC, and then he dumps her after Layla tells him a sob story about how mean Tori was to her in the past. Hooking up with Tori and her hot cheerleader friend Jasmine just to rub it in Darryl's face is another thing that could happen, and probably the most likely path as it's already set up well. And even if she just stayed the slutty bitch she is now, and didn't have any big character arcs, I would still enjoy having her in the game.

Tori is bitchy and full of attitude, but doesn't go out of her way to create conflict.
Sometimes she shows a hint of a softer side, on both scenes(after the race and at the beach) with her she seems very guarded about enjoying kissing and caressing, sounds like something holding her back, can't allow herself to get romantic.

She gets a bad rep because at times scenes are tonally against her, the early scene at the bar is one such example, it's portrayed in very pro-Layla way, we see what Layla is thinking and that Tori flirting with MC pisses her off, but from Tori's perspective she's just flirting with the new hot guy in school, just doing her thing.
Only after getting rejected (and over Layla who she seems to have some dislike), she shows some claws.

I also find it interesting that she seems to have no issues with Valeria, just Layla and Elena... interesting wrinkle that she doesn't hate every hot girl competing with her for male attention.
Elena who btw knows Tori enough to know that she hates being called by her full name Victoria, so again maybe some history here...
Is it possible that "good girls" Elena and Layla started rumors about her way back in the day?And she just embraced it?
That would justify the animosity.

The only thing that is really shitty is the whole "she doesn't fuck losers", maybe her path should've had dual entrances(and i don't mean front door and back door ), like if you fucked her earlier and licked her during stretching... she still gives you a shot.
I think there's a way to do that without toning down her "Tori-ness", just start the scene with her sarcastic about your loss instead of sympathetic.
And we get to fire right back at her "poor" performance and we get a "losers" path to Tori.

If you didn't fuck her in the early portion of the game then maybe she only comes at you if you win the race.

 

[somedude0190]

I actually think most bad blood towards Tori comes from when you are doing a Layla(+Elena) run then actually going for Tori.
When you are on Layla, Tori is a bitch with a huge chip on her shoulder, just being nasty and bitchy for no reason.

The actual Tori path is OK, she doesn't set out to antagonize you(often) and simply doesn't like wasting time, no talking, no relationship, no feelings(yet, it may come)... just fucking, very objective.
And pays no attention to you hanging out with other girls either...

Visually i think she would perhaps look better with a different hair, it's a little too short and too much blonde for her complexion.
The body is

Honestly for me my first run through I was kind of going for everyone (didn't know it wasn't harem didn't look at the tags) but all the negatives I would have got for the other characters for her (bar scene) I was like nah and then she was like your a liar and I am telling everyone in school. Just except rejection that was my issue. Even if she would have said something like I'm to good for you anyways and let it be I would have been alright, but once she basically acted like I am going to ruin your life cause you said no to me just rubbed me the wrong way.

Side question is there a way with this current update to have scenes with ShaCarri? The only ones I seem to be able to get so far are when your with everyone at that pool and the track meet oh and right as you all get there. I think those are the only ones at least.

edit: looked back a few post seems a lot of others interested in shacarri guess they just haven't gone to in dept with her yet. Hmmm I did a val run don't remember her mentioning Shacarri but maybe I forgot in a short time I have rerun (speed run repeat stuff) multiple paths. Either way can't wait tell next update really like this game.

 

[LSC82]

Honestly for me my first run through I was kind of going for everyone (didn't know it wasn't harem didn't look at the tags) but all the negatives I would have got for the other characters for her (bar scene) I was like nah and then she was like your a liar and I am telling everyone in school. Just except rejection that was my issue. Even if she would have said something like I'm to good for you anyways and let it be I would have been alright, but once she basically acted like I am going to ruin your life cause you said no to me just rubbed me the wrong way.

Side question is there a way with this current update to have scenes with ShaCarri? The only ones I seem to be able to get so far are when your with everyone at that pool and the track meet oh and right as you all get there. I think those are the only ones at least.

edit: looked back a few post seems a lot of others interested in shacarri guess they just haven't gone to in dept with her yet. Hmmm I did a val run don't remember her mentioning Shacarri but maybe I forgot in a short time I have rerun (speed run repeat stuff) multiple paths. Either way can't wait tell next update really like this game.

That's fair, she didn't take it well at all, she could've shown indifference and even be nasty but in a better way.
Ultimately she was being used to give us a good Layla scene(the first kiss) rather than being a person herself.
And going for her will end up sacrificing a lot with Layla, Elena and Val... so it's not a choice many will take.

Shacarri makes a cameo on the Nikki path, she was hanging out at the beach.
With beach dates just around the corner she might make her next appearance pretty soon, specially on the Valeria path they might have some interactions.

 

[HiP1]

Thanks mnotwoke for directing me towards this post, i think it's really smart and sums her up really well.


Tori is bitchy and full of attitude, but doesn't go out of her way to create conflict.
Sometimes she shows a hint of a softer side, on both scenes(after the race and at the beach) with her she seems very guarded about enjoying kissing and caressing, sounds like something holding her back, can't allow herself to get romantic.

She gets a bad rep because at times scenes are tonally against her, the early scene at the bar is one such example, it's portrayed in very pro-Layla way, we see what Layla is thinking and that Tori flirting with MC pisses her off, but from Tori's perspective she's just flirting with the new hot guy in school, just doing her thing.
Only after getting rejected (and over Layla who she seems to have some dislike), she shows some claws.

I also find it interesting that she seems to have no issues with Valeria, just Layla and Elena... interesting wrinkle that she doesn't hate every hot girl competing with her for male attention.
Elena who btw knows Tori enough to know that she hates being called by her full name Victoria, so again maybe some history here...
Is it possible that "good girls" Elena and Layla started rumors about her way back in the day?And she just embraced it?
That would justify the animosity.

The only thing that is really shitty is the whole "she doesn't fuck losers", maybe her path should've had dual entrances(and i don't mean front door and back door ), like if you fucked her earlier and licked her during stretching... she still gives you a shot.
I think there's a way to do that without toning down her "Tori-ness", just start the scene with her sarcastic about your loss instead of sympathetic.
And we get to fire right back at her "poor" performance and we get a "losers" path to Tori.

If you didn't fuck her in the early portion of the game then maybe she only comes at you if you win the race.

Tori is just a bitch. she certainly has a story for how she became like that in her childhood or teenage years for sure, but i don't think it excuses any of her behavior, whether you're on her path or not.
from what you can gather, Layla and Elena didn't do anything to her. it's only Tori that spread the rumors about Layla and her stalker for no reason. Tori probably might have been jealous of Layla and the attention she got, plus Layla's family is rich, she is the daughter of the principal, not really serious about anything, not really motivated to win (even though her dad was a legendary athlete) and that guy was obsessed with her (maybe Tori wanted a piece of him and he turned her down because of Layla). or something as stupid as hating Layla because Daryl wanted Layla first, and Tori is his second choice.
She doesn't seem to have anything against Elena though. maybe she even has some form of respect for her, in her own weird way. being the cheerleader captain, carrying the team, winner mentality, doesn't take shit from anyone and hit back instantly if provoked, etc. except that Elena is Layla's best friend. they probably shared some classes, and that's how Elena got her real first name.
she is the classic trope "bitch to everyone except her only friend"