VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[byaaahh]

I wouldn't worry about that, if you watch the Emily/John scene, he clearly had different back tattoos then Melissa's John. I mean, I know you can "paint" over them but only to a degree I think. It would have to me a major fix. Plus, as someone pointed out to me when I thought the MC's dad was Layla/Lexi's dad, the dev said early on there would be no incest in this AVN.

I wouldn't use the tattoos as an indicator of if he's a different guy, especially when Nyx has changed a few things from previous episodes because she ended up not liking them (new house model, ever changing haircuts).

The only thing I take into account is what Erynn's dad was described as. Tall, blonde, blue eyes and tattoos.
Him being described as very Nordic and a few episodes later Erynn having her Valkyrie shoot could be a red herring, but I still think John will be her dad.

It's all INTERTWINED, you know?

 

[jadepaladin]

I know but i was talking from a development speed perspective, these scenes arent really needed and could have played out in the background, Emily could have simply told the MC that she had a date with John.

But i dont give a fuck anyway, i think its funny, i merely pointed out that it wasnt really needed to be shown

Anytime Nyx is given a chance to troll a certain subset of her audience, she will take it, which is how I interpret rendering the John/Emily date. 100% agree we didn't have to see it, I don't really care about it either way but she probably got a kick out of the imagined reactions certain people would have.

 

[TonyMurray]

I wouldn't worry about that, if you watch the Emily/John scene, he clearly had different back tattoos then Melissa's John. I mean, I know you can "paint" over them but only to a degree I think. It would have to me a major fix. Plus, as someone pointed out to me when I thought the MC's dad was Layla/Lexi's dad, the dev said early on there would be no incest in this AVN.

Yeah, I made this observation previously with the tattoos but someone said that Nyx had been changing John's tattoos, so we can't necessarily use that as an argument for it being a different John.

 

[NoX Productions]

It is a slow burn sure and depending on which LI you chose to go for you could literally end up not seeing a single sex scene with them up to this point (Elena, Valerie) and some LI's that you may be interested in are introduced way too late into the story. Me personally, i enjoy slow burns more instead of just banging all the time in the every second scene. That said, even for one such as myself it sometimes does feel a bit too slow, i feel like the dev didn't manage to strike that healthy balance. But i guess this is what happens when you have so many characters and you want to tell each of their stories in a decently sized way. There just isn't enough time for the dev to focus on everyone all the time i would imagine. That said, it is borderline criminal at this point that some of the LI's haven't even gotten their proper screen time even this far into the development and haven't progressed much since the start at all while others have multiple scenes. Its like the dev is focusing only on her favorites and leaving the other that some other people may like more to the sidelines

 

[byaaahh]

Yeah, I made this observation previously with the tattoos but someone said that Nyx had been changing John's tattoos, so we can't necessarily use that as an argument for it being a different John.

The only things we can guarantee is that John fits the description and he recognises Erynn looks a lot like someone he knew from the past.

 

[NoX Productions]

Anytime Nyx is given a chance to troll a certain subset of her audience, she will take it, which is how I interpret rendering the John/Emily date. 100% agree we didn't have to see it, I don't really care about it either way but she probably got a kick out of the imagined reactions certain people would have.

This probably is my incest rotten brain talking as i often go for those tags in VN's and i know Nyx said early on that there will be no incest, but i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point. There have been quite a few instances now where Nyx on purpose was making certain innuendos that could take the story in that direction (EP12 end was one of those for instance). Why else does Emily get way more points than almost every other girl in the game? Just for story enrichment and/or trolling those of us who wouldn't mind those scenarios to take place?. Clearly at some point there was at least a desire to make something with that but Nyx decided to take it in a different direction as of late. I just wish we as a player had some choice in the matter if we want her to date John or not because as it stands all those points we gathered towards her have no meaning or impact whatsoever

 

[byaaahh]

This probably is my incest rotten brain talking as i often go for those tags in VN's, but i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point. Why else does Emily get way more points than almost every other girl in the game? Clearly at some point there was at least a desire to make something with that but Nyx decided to take it in a different direction as of late. I just wish we as a player had some choice in the matter if we want her to date John or not because as it stands all those points we gathered towards her have no meaning or impact whatsoever

Emily's points are pretty minimal, I'm sure it's less than 10.

If points were an indication of fucking, when is the Zach path opening?

 

[jadepaladin]

This probably is my incest rotten brain talking as i often go for those tags in VN's, but i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point. Why else does Emily get way more points than almost every other girl in the game? Clearly at some point there was at least a desire to make something with that but Nyx decided to take it in a different direction as of late. I just wish we as a player had some choice in the matter if we want her to date John or not because as it stands all those points we gathered towards her have no meaning or impact whatsoever

The early Emily points were the setup to the bike but we didn't know that for a long time. We don't know where the new Emily points will go yet. The points have always been about doing the non incest thing, being a good son, having playful fun with her, etc.

 

[anonnyscouse]

This probably is my incest rotten brain talking as i often go for those tags in VN's, but i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point. Why else does Emily get way more points than almost every other girl in the game? Clearly at some point there was at least a desire to make something with that but Nyx decided to take it in a different direction as of late. I just wish we as a player had some choice in the matter if we want her to date John or not because as it stands all those points we gathered towards her have no meaning or impact whatsoever

The points for Emily are not for romantic reasons, they are controlling how much trust she gives MC and whether you get a motorbike (which helps with other LIs) is controlled by the Emily RP.

You did get a choice as to whether to encourage Emily to go on a date with John and then you also had a chance to skip Emily telling Melissa what happened on the date. In order to see Emily fucking John you gave her encouragement to date John and you chose not to skip the scene when she's talking to Melissa. That's all on you, not on Nyx.

 

[jadepaladin]

Emily's points are pretty minimal, I'm sure it's less than 10.

If points were an indication of fucking, when is the Zach path opening?

Emily has 24 points, 4 are exclusive to being on a Nikki/Cara route where you go back for the wedding and get into it with Andres. The bike birthday gift requires 13 points.

 

[Tremonia]

i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point.

No, they weren't. Just players seeing things they wanted to see.

 

[byaaahh]

Emily has 24 points, 4 are exclusive to being on a Nikki/Cara route where you go back for the wedding and get into it with Andres. The bike birthday gift requires 13 points.

It's possible to not get the bike? I think that might be the only route I haven't done.

I might have to do a hate-filled run and pick every negative choice.

 

[NoX Productions]

No, they weren't. Just players seeing things they wanted to see.

True but i personally wouldn't mind, IMO Emily is one of the hottest girls in the game. Just another troll Nyx put us through

 

[SteelyDan14]

This probably is my incest rotten brain talking as i often go for those tags in VN's and i know Nyx said early on that there will be no incest, but i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point. There have been quite a few instances now where Nyx on purpose was making certain innuendos that could take the story in that direction (EP12 end was one of those for instance). Why else does Emily get way more points than almost every other girl in the game? Just for story enrichment and/or trolling those of us who wouldn't mind those scenarios to take place?. Clearly at some point there was at least a desire to make something with that but Nyx decided to take it in a different direction as of late. I just wish we as a player had some choice in the matter if we want her to date John or not because as it stands all those points we gathered towards her have no meaning or impact whatsoever

It is a bit weird. I mean there are choices that imply the MC could choose to be attracted to his mom. Looking at her in the pool, kissing her on the lips, a few scenes in Mom's bedroom... so I get it. But again, Nyx said early on (and I'm paraphrasing) "no incest ever" and so far she has stuck to that.

 

[NoX Productions]

It is a bit weird. I mean there are choices that imply the MC could choose to be attracted to his mom. Looking at her in the pool, kissing her on the lips, a few scenes in Mom's bedroom... so I get it. But again, Nyx said early on (and I'm paraphrasing) "no incest ever" and so far she has stuck to that.

I mean, i don't mind it, its just interesting how Nyx seemingly loves to troll us for the things some of us may like. I guess it makes for potential drama moments in the story so that's probably her goal in the end

 

[jadepaladin]

It is a bit weird. I mean there are choices that imply the MC could choose to be attracted to his mom. Looking at her in the pool, kissing her on the lips, a few scenes in Mom's bedroom... so I get it. But again, Nyx said early on (and I'm paraphrasing) "no incest ever" and so far she has stuck to that.

Looking at her in the pool costs you Emily points because it goes against what the Emily points are for: rewarding you for having a good mother/son relationship since MC was an ass to her in the past. The kiss on the lips is in reference to an earlier scene where they accidentally kissed and got embarrassed/later laughed about it. The bedroom scene where you see her dressing is some combination Nyx troll/reward, because you have to have max Emily points to see it. Everyone who thought there was going to be incest was just deluding themselves.

 

[byaaahh]

Looking at her in the pool costs you Emily points because it goes against what the Emily points are for: rewarding you for having a good mother/son relationship since MC was an ass to her in the past. The kiss on the lips is in reference to an earlier scene where they accidentally kissed and got embarrassed/later laughed about it. The bedroom scene where you see her dressing is some combination Nyx troll/reward, because you have to have max Emily points to see it. Everyone who thought there was going to be incest was just deluding themselves.

Even the scene where you share her bed on Nikki/Cara route and you wake up with titty in hand, the MC is actively repulsed at the thought.

 

[anonnyscouse]

It is a bit weird. I mean there are choices that imply the MC could choose to be attracted to his mom. Looking at her in the pool, kissing her on the lips, a few scenes in Mom's bedroom... so I get it. But again, Nyx said early on (and I'm paraphrasing) "no incest ever" and so far she has stuck to that.

Those choices always earned negative RP with Emily though. I can see where it comes across as incest baiting but I'm not sure that was Nyx's intention. There was a planned storyline that was abandoned but was due to be triggered in ep 9 where MC would side with Ethan and Zach during their confrontation scene. If you were to ask me for two characters who would stare at their Mom when they were topless and would try and spy on their Mom getting dressed then Zach and Ethan would be top of the list. I think the trigger for MC being on the corruption path would have been refusing to believe Erynn's version of the confession story, having low points with Emily (by being pervy with her), not helping Erynn when she was being abused by Ethan (therefore nuking Erynn and Alexis paths) and maxing points with Zach (nuking the Layla, Elena and Val paths).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I've said this before, but it's still weird for a non incest game to give you the option to look at your mother's titties and sleep in the same bed as her when you're a grown assed man.

 

[Krytax123]

Valeria and Erryn are my favorites (i like layla too tho) but i have to say at this point the erryn route starts to annoy me too.

I really enjoy their slice of life interactions and general tone and vibe but the "not having sex" at this point feels artificial to me.

I would be fine with it if Erryn would be truely traumatized and somewhat refrain from sexual acts in general for the time being but she went waaaaaaaay too far already for this being a possibility. Shes always teasing and creating intimate and sexual moments between the two.

And she isnt even a virgin which would make dick in pussy such a big deal compared to all the other stuff they did. I think even none lewd interactions with her would be a better and more coherent story than this weird mumbo jumbo were in now and this girl shouldnt blame anyone but herself if the mc (realisticly) would start a relationship with another girl.

And i consider it way more questionable how shes doesnt mind at all when the mc is taking pictures and even filming her without consent/informing her about it as it (should be) way closer related to her trauma. The MC does that to a lesser degree with val too (being pushy about pictures) but of course the girls like it.

Erryn says "give me a little bit more time" but for what exactly? I dont really get it but maybe i just consider sex less of a big deal esp considering what they already did together.

And urgh, mutual masturbation just sucks, wouldnt have needed that scene lol