Kaskaze

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Erynn is one of my personal favourite LI's but even if you only see Erynn as a friend it's still a nice scene IMO. I asked months ago if there was any chance that we could get to read one of the letters and Nyx delivered. I just hope that the response letter from the MC is just as heartfelt.
This letter hurts and hits twice as hard if you chose not to help Erynn
 

Bad Wolf

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Ah okay, I've not seen that. Weird regardless, as there's theoretically no way it should be able to happen accidentally (although I'm saying that bearing in mind I'm not an expert...).
Neither am I. But I have issues with a few games for some reason. It is what it is though.
 

Whitecat2

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How do you like this theory? Ethan tells Val that she and MC are brother and sister. The father of both is Santiago. Val does not believe it. Ximena and Santiago did not have an affair. But Ethan says that Val's mother is not Ximena but Gabi who gave birth to her when she was underage and in order to hide it, Ximena took the child for herself. Val rushes to Ximena and she is forced to confess. This explains Val's behavior in the last part, she is in shock, the guy she is in love with is her brother. Now the only question is whether MC is Santiago's son or is he Andreas's son? Emily fucked Santiago while in a relationship with Andreas. She is in love with Santiago and could simply convince herself that she is pregnant from him.
 

sigvar

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This isn't harem and I'm happy about that, it's actually one of the things I like most. I don't need another VN where the girls are mindless sex dolls for the pleasure of the MC. Where there are no consequences to sleeping around. There are plenty of harem VN's out there for you to enjoy, stop trying to push it on this one.
The statement that the girls are mindless sex dolls for the MC in harem games is making a big assumption. Sure there are some harem games that are like that and there are a lot of pick a LI type games that are no better. Neither game has a good plot, writing or characters in that case. There are quite a few games that are not harem that you can get away with sleeping around without consequences as well.

Nah, this game is a perfect example of why harem games are appealing. There isn't this fucking META/Save Juggling bullshit in most harem games. It is obvious from the last few updates that the handling of all these routes is too fucking much for this dev to keep straight which happens so often. Not to mention the issues of huge swaths of time and updates that sometimes go between any content for particular paths. Quite often the story suffers from the fragmentation as well.
 

Kaskaze

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How do you like this theory? Ethan tells Val that she and MC are brother and sister. The father of both is Santiago. Val does not believe it. Ximena and Santiago did not have an affair. But Ethan says that Val's mother is not Ximena but Gabi who gave birth to her when she was underage and in order to hide it, Ximena took the child for herself. Val rushes to Ximena and she is forced to confess. This explains Val's behavior in the last part, she is in shock, the guy she is in love with is her brother. Now the only question is whether MC is Santiago's son or is he Andreas's son? Emily fucked Santiago while in a relationship with Andreas. She is in love with Santiago and could simply convince herself that she is pregnant from him.
Damn, I like it. But if we assume Val-MC are siblings, doesn't their date on the beach and seeing each other naked break the rules of incest?
 

Whitecat2

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Damn, I like it. But if we assume Val-MC are siblings, doesn't their date on the beach and seeing each other naked break the rules of incest?
I believe that incest is when two people know they are closely related but have sex. In this case, MS and Val did not know they were brother and sister. Also, as I have already pointed out, there is still a possibility that MS is not Santiago's son. No one has conducted an examination. Everything is based on Emily's belief that she gave birth to Navarro's son.
 

LSC82

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The statement that the girls are mindless sex dolls for the MC in harem games is making a big assumption. Sure there are some harem games that are like that and there are a lot of pick a LI type games that are no better. Neither game has a good plot, writing or characters in that case. There are quite a few games that are not harem that you can get away with sleeping around without consequences as well.

Nah, this game is a perfect example of why harem games are appealing. There isn't this fucking META/Save Juggling bullshit in most harem games. It is obvious from the last few updates that the handling of all these routes is too fucking much for this dev to keep straight which happens so often. Not to mention the issues of huge swaths of time and updates that sometimes go between any content for particular paths. Quite often the story suffers from the fragmentation as well.
Well many of us here chose to accept the "meta/save juggling bullshit" because we enjoy the little details and fun scenes that can come from making bad decisions in a game like this.

Many here will refer back to Layla+Alexis knocking at your door, as the moment it finally "got real".
These moments, the little details like the girls showing jealousy towards the others can totally change the tone of a scene(the recent Gabi scene is "whatever" if you don't have anything with Layla, with Layla "active" it becomes way more entertaining).

I'm perfectly happy to accept "meta/save juggling BS" for those little rewards and wouldn't trade it for a simpler game.
But i understand if that's not what you like.

This letter hurts and hits twice as hard if you chose not to help Erynn
I haven't taken a save in this style so far, it already hurts like hell seeing her destroyed face watching you leave.
It must hit like a ton of bricks.
 

Justaphase

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How do you like this theory? Ethan tells Val that she and MC are brother and sister. The father of both is Santiago. Val does not believe it. Ximena and Santiago did not have an affair. But Ethan says that Val's mother is not Ximena but Gabi who gave birth to her when she was underage and in order to hide it, Ximena took the child for herself. Val rushes to Ximena and she is forced to confess. This explains Val's behavior in the last part, she is in shock, the guy she is in love with is her brother. Now the only question is whether MC is Santiago's son or is he Andreas's son? Emily fucked Santiago while in a relationship with Andreas. She is in love with Santiago and could simply convince herself that she is pregnant from him.
Ok let's go through your theory one step at a time. And the reasons why I think it doesn't fit.
1. Gabi is only 28 so it's extremely unlikely that she would be Val's mother.
2. Val's behavior in the last part is because of Ethan. He either said or did something and she is afraid to tell the MC because she knows that he will do something impulsive and get into trouble. She will likely tell Zach to try and make him see the truth about Ethan.
3. If Val was made aware of this news why would she be planning her next date with the MC? Or inviting him over while on the phone?
4. Emily was already pregnant with the MC when she met Andres.
 

Justaphase

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The statement that the girls are mindless sex dolls for the MC in harem games is making a big assumption. Sure there are some harem games that are like that and there are a lot of pick a LI type games that are no better. Neither game has a good plot, writing or characters in that case. There are quite a few games that are not harem that you can get away with sleeping around without consequences as well.

Nah, this game is a perfect example of why harem games are appealing. There isn't this fucking META/Save Juggling bullshit in most harem games. It is obvious from the last few updates that the handling of all these routes is too fucking much for this dev to keep straight which happens so often. Not to mention the issues of huge swaths of time and updates that sometimes go between any content for particular paths. Quite often the story suffers from the fragmentation as well.
If harem games are what you like then go play them, noone is stopping you. What I dislike is when people want it in every game. Personally they aren't my thing.
 

Whitecat2

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Ok let's go through your theory one step at a time. And the reasons why I think it doesn't fit.
1. Gabi is only 28 so it's extremely unlikely that she would be Val's mother.
2. Val's behavior in the last part is because of Ethan. He either said or did something and she is afraid to tell the MC because she knows that he will do something impulsive and get into trouble. She will likely tell Zach to try and make him see the truth about Ethan.
3. If Val was made aware of this news why would she be planning her next date with the MC? Or inviting him over while on the phone?
4. Emily was already pregnant with the MC when she met Andres.
I'll answer in parts.
1. Gabi's age is not specified by the author. The assumption that Gabi is 27 comes from the fact that players assumed that she is younger than the MILF, but older than the schoolgirls. So she may be just a few years younger than Emily.
2. The scene in the burger shop with Mira and Oun completely cosplays what happened between Emily, Santiago, Zo and Andreas. Emily is a stupid young girl in love with Santiago. For him, she is just a party girl with whom he can have fun and fuck if necessary. Then Santiago leaves, and Emily starts a relationship with Andreas, believing that he has left forever. But then Santiago appears, and Emily breaks up with Andreas and runs to Santi. And it is at this moment that she gets pregnant. She tells Santiago about this, but he is already having problems with an underage athlete who got pregnant by him. By the way, in this case, the appearance of Santiago's parents is quite logical. They are trying to buy Emily off, because if he does not marry Gabi, he will be persecuted for having sex with a minor. By the way, this is just a theory, and you shouldn't tear your hair out.
 
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kktcross

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havent played it since 0.1 now after i give it a try i have question how does dev update routes? i mean is it little for each character or updates are focused on one or two at time where we get big chunks of content for them? thanks*
 

Dessolos

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havent played it since 0.1 now after i give it a try i have question how does dev update routes? i mean is it little for each character or updates are focused on one or two at time where we get big chunks of content for them? tanks
a little of both. Ch 13 almost everyone got content but sometimes some routes barley get anything.
 
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TonyMurray

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I'll answer in parts.
1. Gabi's age is not specified by the author. The assumption that Gabi is 27 comes from the fact that players assumed that she is younger than the MILF, but older than the schoolgirls. So she may be just a few years younger than Emily.
2. The scene in the burger shop with Mira and Oun completely cosplays what happened between Emily, Santiago, Zo and Andreas. Emily is a stupid young girl in love with Santiago. For him, she is just a party girl with whom he can have fun and fuck if necessary. Then Santiago leaves, and Emily starts a relationship with Andreas, believing that he has left forever. But then Santiago appears, and Emily breaks up with Andreas and runs to Santi. And it is at this moment that she gets pregnant. She tells Santiago about this, but he is already having problems with an underage athlete who got pregnant by him. By the way, in this case, the appearance of Santiago's parents is quite logical. They are trying to buy Emily off, because if he does not marry Gabi, he will be persecuted for having sex with a minor. By the way, this is just a theory, and you shouldn't tear your hair out.
1. Actually, it's estimated because Layla said Gabi is 27 or 28:
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2. Obviously doesn't need a response because it's just a theory with no basis.
 
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MilesEdgeworth

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I believe that incest is when two people know they are closely related but have sex. In this case, MS and Val did not know they were brother and sister. Also, as I have already pointed out, there is still a possibility that MS is not Santiago's son. No one has conducted an examination. Everything is based on Emily's belief that she gave birth to Navarro's son.
Not how that works. Incest is two people having sex regardless of knowledge of relations.

Alright this new update is already starting off on the wrong foot by removing shacarri from the track scenes. WTF! Totes deducting points for that.
 
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