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Don't think it can directly be involved in the blackmail because of it only happening on her route.

I wonder if Ethan tries to turn Val against MC the same way he did with Zach, maybe trying to make himself out as the good guy. She doesn't know about the blackmail, perhaps Ethan could turn it around and claim that MC is blackmailing someone with a sex tape and that he's trying to stop it. Might plant a little doubt given Val's history with someone she trusted sharing photos of her? Although she couldn't be that convinced if she still invites MC to the party...
I think he put himself in a tough position to try that.
She witnessed him ganging up on the MC, and had her own scary meeting with him...
From what we've seen Val is smart enough to hear the MCs side before buying into something like that, and whatever tale he spins can be easily disproven.

Ethan doesn't know Val to understand what makes her tick, i don't think many people knew of her traumas until she revealed in the beach scene, maybe her mom...
And as far as we know he didn't put his detective to find out things about her, he was on the John and fake John identity the whole time.
Val is just his bait to manipulate Zach so he doesn't really care.

From the variations of the Ethan-Zach club scene(Val bump or not), i get the feeling Ethan didn't rate the encounter as a success, he knows any attempt at convincing this girl to do anything will be extra difficult now.
I lean towards straight intimidation attempt, everything around points to it.


Don't get me wrong, I don't want anything to do with Zach, but he's the lesser evil. Don't see any other character that could let MC know that Ethan has identified who John really is.

Not an arranged meeting, but maybe running into him while out, having an argument and him blabbling about John might work? If it helps protect John and take down Ethan then I'd take it! Although you're right, it would have to be present in some way on all routes so probably not at the party. Once the blackmail is done I'd be happy to never see Zach again.
Maybe him babbling about John is something that happens sooner or later, and can change locations.
Could happen at the party, or at different spots... but always happens.

Or he tells (non Val relationship, no party)Valeria and she tells the MC.

Maybe Val is passing on the information that she won't be taking part in the race/tournament? (On her route) :unsure:
Hmmmm... i didn't think of that, it could be.
If it is that hopefully we can flip it still.
 

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I think he put himself in a tough position to try that.
She witnessed him ganging up on the MC, and had her own scary meeting with him...
From what we've seen Val is smart enough to hear the MCs side before buying into something like that, and whatever tale he spins can be easily disproven.

Ethan doesn't know Val to understand what makes her tick, i don't think many people knew of her traumas until she revealed in the beach scene, maybe her mom...
And as far as we know he didn't put his detective to find out things about her, he was on the John and fake John identity the whole time.
Val is just his bait to manipulate Zach so he doesn't really care.

From the variations of the Ethan-Zach club scene(Val bump or not), i get the feeling Ethan didn't rate the encounter as a success, he knows any attempt at convincing this girl to do anything will be extra difficult now.
I lean towards straight intimidation attempt, everything around points to it.



Maybe him babbling about John is something that happens sooner or later, and can change locations.
Could happen at the party, or at different spots... but always happens.

Or he tells (non Val relationship, no party)Valeria and she tells the MC.


Hmmmm... i didn't think of that, it could be.
If it is that hopefully we can flip it still.
Or to put it another way: Val is calling because it was Mike who didn’t let the MC take part in that race. He chose Daryll and TJ instead.
 

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Or to put it another way: Val is calling because it was Mike who didn’t let the MC take part in that race. He chose Daryll and TJ instead.
I understood, Darryl was already in and TJ got into the second spot, Val is relating it to him(suppousedly).

And the "we can flip it" part, hopefully when we come back on friday we can have a talk with Mike and a challenge against TJ for the spot.
Maybe it requires good relationships with the members of the team, good student points and... who knows, at least friendly with the coach's daughters?
 
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Ethan doesn't know Val to understand what makes her tick, i don't think many people knew of her traumas until she revealed in the beach scene, maybe her mom...

I lean towards straight intimidation attempt, everything around points to it.
Didn't mean that Ethan knew about Val's history, just that it's the kind of story that might work on her a bit if he stumbled on it. But it's unlikely and don't see it working on Val anyway, she's not as gullible as Zach. Most likely the meeting was just "stop seeing MC or you'll get hurt", which is a little boring but works like you say.

Or to put it another way: Val is calling because it was Mike who didn’t let the MC take part in that race. He chose Daryll and TJ instead.
Still think Daryll will probably get MC out of the suspension and allowed to race, even if you punched Zach and don't get on. Daryll wants to win the race in front of scouts and to help with scholarships, MC is his best chance of doing that.
 
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Didn't mean that Ethan knew about Val's history, just that it's the kind of story that might work on her a bit if he stumbled on it. But it's unlikely and don't see it working on Val anyway, she's not as gullible as Zach. Most likely the meeting was just "stop seeing MC or you'll get hurt", which is a little boring but works like you say.



Still think Daryll will probably get MC out of the suspension and allowed to race, even if you punched Zach and don't get on. Daryll wants to win the race in front of scouts and to help with scholarships, MC is his best chance of doing that.
Do you think Daryll would be able to ditch TJ for the tournament?
 
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Do you think Daryll would be able to ditch TJ for the tournament?
I think Daryll really wants to win, impressing scouts and getting a scholarship are his priority. He's not stupid, even if they hate each other I think he knows MC is the other best male runner, he'd ditch TJ for that. Nothing personal, but it's what's best for him and TJ doesn't seem good enough to have a future in athletics anyway.

I guess Mike could overrule him, but not sure why he would if the suspension is lifted.
 
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Do you think Daryll would be able to ditch TJ for the tournament?
He would be a little torn between his friend and the guy he knows is faster, and gives the team the best odds.
Ultimately i think Darryl is very focussed on getting results so he might chose the MC.
 
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He would be a little torn between his friend and the guy he knows is faster, and gives the team the best odds.
Ultimately i think Darryl is very focussed on getting results so he might chose the MC.
If TJ is a good friend then I think he'd understand, he can't hold Darryl back from his shot at success because of ego. It would hurt, but this is Daryll's chance, he'd support that if they're real friends.
 
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I just remembered something, in the latest blog post i believe Nyx mentioned working on a small phone call scene that for some reason needed 5(at least i think it was 5) variations.
And then she releases this preview of Val in a phone call with the MC...

1-Val on a relationship
2-Val not in a relationship, but still had her encounter with Ethan
3-No relationship, no bumping into Ethan
4-Val not a friend(would she still call?)

I'm drawing blank for more...

What you guys think Justaphase valbitterb Kaskaze Elduriel ?
 
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I just remembered something, in the latest blog post i believe Nyx mentioned working on a small phone call scene that for some reason needed 5(at least i think it was 5) variations.
And then she releases this preview of Val in a phone call with the MC...

1-Val on a relationship
2-Val not in a relationship, but still had her encounter with Ethan
3-No relationship, no bumping into Ethan
4-Val not a friend(would she still call?)

I'm drawing blank for more...

What you guys think Justaphase valbitterb Kaskaze Elduriel ?
I agree. I was thinking that too. This phone call should at least be for if you're not in relationship, but Ethan did threaten Val. If you are in a relationship, she should tell you in person.
 
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I agree. I was thinking that too. This phone call should at least be for if you're not in relationship, but Ethan did threaten Val. If you are in a relationship, she should tell you in person.
Agree, if you have a relationship it's better if it comes out during the date.
No relationship, but still bumped into Ethan, she could say it during the phone call.
If she never bumped into Ethan, she's calling just to talk about Zach maybe?
 
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I just remembered something, in the latest blog post i believe Nyx mentioned working on a small phone call scene that for some reason needed 5(at least i think it was 5) variations.
And then she releases this preview of Val in a phone call with the MC...

1-Val on a relationship
2-Val not in a relationship, but still had her encounter with Ethan
3-No relationship, no bumping into Ethan
4-Val not a friend(would she still call?)

I'm drawing blank for more...

What you guys think Justaphase valbitterb Kaskaze Elduriel ?
or maybe,

5-Val broke up, because she found out the MC fuckin' around with Iris and Erynn like Rabbit :KEK: :WeSmart:
 

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I just remembered something, in the latest blog post i believe Nyx mentioned working on a small phone call scene that for some reason needed 5(at least i think it was 5) variations.
And then she releases this preview of Val in a phone call with the MC...

1-Val on a relationship
2-Val not in a relationship, but still had her encounter with Ethan
3-No relationship, no bumping into Ethan
4-Val not a friend(would she still call?)

I'm drawing blank for more...

What you guys think Justaphase valbitterb Kaskaze Elduriel ?
It also crossed my mind that Val might call to cancel the emo party. But if we get the invitation, that means we’re in a relationship with her (officially or not), so calling to cancel would be pretty lame. For me, it’s something related to the tournament. I’ll keep standing by the fact that Ethan didn’t do anything wrong to Val.
 

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Anyone interested in seeing Layla slap the shit out of Zach's ginger ass hat, you can check out the video at the fan thread.


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EDIT: This is the video of Layla punching Zach repeatedly https://f95zone.to/threads/intertwined-fan-art-and-assets.181355/post-18206991

This is the link to her slapping the shit out of Zach https://f95zone.to/threads/intertwined-fan-art-and-assets.181355/post-18206834
 
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I just remembered something, in the latest blog post i believe Nyx mentioned working on a small phone call scene that for some reason needed 5(at least i think it was 5) variations.
And then she releases this preview of Val in a phone call with the MC...

1-Val on a relationship
2-Val not in a relationship, but still had her encounter with Ethan
3-No relationship, no bumping into Ethan
4-Val not a friend(would she still call?)

I'm drawing blank for more...

What you guys think Justaphase valbitterb Kaskaze Elduriel ?
I've never done a run where I didn't help Erynn with the blackmail, never have the heart to not help. Does the stuff between Ethan and Val change if you're not involved with the blackmail plot? That might need a different phone call?

Although I think in the update Nyx said that it was a small phone call that turned into 5 scenes to bring all the different routes to the same point. She didn't specifically say they were all variants of the same call, she just said that doing the first call made her think of other scenes she needed to do. The part about bringing all the different routes to the same point, I read it as being a few calls / talks with different people to get them all to the same point in the story depending on your route.
 

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I just remembered something, in the latest blog post i believe Nyx mentioned working on a small phone call scene that for some reason needed 5(at least i think it was 5) variations.
And then she releases this preview of Val in a phone call with the MC...

1-Val on a relationship
2-Val not in a relationship, but still had her encounter with Ethan
3-No relationship, no bumping into Ethan
4-Val not a friend(would she still call?)

I'm drawing blank for more...

What you guys think Justaphase valbitterb Kaskaze Elduriel ?
the logic makes sense to me about multiple variations, but I can hardly think of 5 either. Maybe the Zach punch not punch is one of them, potentially the track stuff too depending if it's Layla or Tori? Those could come up in the discussion.
 

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the logic makes sense to me about multiple variations, but I can hardly think of 5 either. Maybe the Zach punch not punch is one of them, potentially the track stuff too depending if it's Layla or Tori? Those could come up in the discussion.
Val is trying to convince us to choose Layla when we choose Tori for the race, or vice versa.:unsure:
 
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