VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[Uriel ☁]

She manipulated Him, was not Honest from the start and with Erynn as well.
There is No justifying Anyone, especially Alexis.

How exactly did she manipulate him?

I agree about the lack of honesty from her at the start, but the info she kept for herself was such a useless piece of trivia that I've a really hard time keeping any grudge over it. The fact that they knew each other when they were kids changes nothing about their current relation.

Erynn has a bigger reason to blame her, but that's between them and doesn't concern me.

 

[MrD812]

How exactly did she manipulate him?

Lets take a look at the meanings of Manipulate for starters:

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something or someone to

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, often

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Pay attention, on the very First part of Episode 1.
MC pretty much pours his heart out with the story of Erynn, Family and safe to say...
is exposing a vulnerable state of being.

Instead of being a decent person, acquaintance, friend, companion, anything.
She choose to manipulate, continuing under false pretense and did not stop on the plane.

See Motives
Acknowledge Origin
Know full intent
Know What actions Were taken
Know what actions were Not taken.

If it is STILL unclear and cannot see it, perhaps there is an issue of miscomprehension.

 

[Cabin Fever]

Lets take a look at the meanings of Manipulate for starters:

to

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something or someone to

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, often

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or

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Pay attention, on the very First part of Episode 1.
MC pretty much pours his heart out with the story of Erynn, Family and safe to say...
is exposing a vulnerable state of being.

Instead of being a decent person, acquaintance, friend, companion, anything.
She choose to manipulate, continuing under false pretense and did not stop on the plane.

See Motives
Acknowledge Origin
Know full intent
Know What actions Were taken
Know what actions were Not taken.

If it is STILL unclear and cannot see it, perhaps there is an issue of miscomprehension.

Yes, Alexis took advantage of a situation. Yes she lied. But please explain what kind of control did she have on the MC? Nothing was forced on him. MC has the option to turn her down at every single opportunity. Without control there is no manipulation.

 

[MrD812]

Without control there is no manipulation.

Being successful in an act or not, will NOT change or justify Intent.

Seriously, just because You choose NOT to accept her shenanigans.
Does not change Intent of Manipulation or WHAT IT IS.

Here's a different example:
Many people are in prison whom were NOT successful in their crime.
Just because it didn't happen, does NOT change what they intended to do.
'he tried to rape Your girlfriend but didn't succeed... he's not guilty?'

Do not comply, then there is no control.
My playthrough(s) did NOT take the offer(s) by Lexi.
Rejected her shenanigans from the start.

Alexis knowing FULL WELL of everything first hand before he said anything to her.
Her choice in actions and what she did AND did NOT do.
Still chose to manipulate, in fact.

It's all there, no matter how You slice it and dice it.

 

[Cabin Fever]

Being successful in an act or not, will NOT change or justify Intent.

Seriously, just because You choose NOT to accept her shenanigans.
Does not change Intent of Manipulation or WHAT IT IS.

Here's a different example:
Many people are in prison whom were NOT successful in their crime.
Just because it didn't happen, does NOT change what they intended to do.
'he tried to rape Your girlfriend but didn't succeed... he's not guilty?'

Do not comply, then there is no control.
My playthrough(s) did NOT take the offer(s) by Lexi.
Rejected her shenanigans from the start.

Alexis knowing FULL WELL of everything first hand before he said anything to her.
Her choice in actions and what she did AND did NOT do.
Still chose to manipulate, in fact.

It's all there, no matter how You slice it and dice it.

She chose to take advantage of the situation - Yes, 100% correct, and I agree completely. But that's not the same as manipulating.

 

[MrD812]

She chose to take advantage of the situation - Yes, 100% correct, and I agree completely. But that's not the same as manipulating.

It is, in fact.
Go read the definition.
It's not Opinion.

Wanted nothing to do with Alexis.
My life partners, friends, associates, ect...
Kept annoying me to read her playthrough/content when i did not give a dam.

Their not wrong, Alexis is written to be whom she is weather anyone can Deal with it or not.
Your choice will NOT change what it is AND what Manipulations means.
Continue to argue, You will be ignored.

You have been informed.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

When a guy is bullying another guy in a group, there are two kinds of girls in this world (well 3, the third just goes along with it and we dont care about) - the kind that lectures the bully on his actions while staying near him, and the kind that seeks out the victim and comforts him.

 

[CrioniC.Syn]

She chose to take advantage of the situation - Yes, 100% correct, and I agree completely. But that's not the same as manipulating.

Don't argue with that guy. He believes he's always right. Just look at all his posts. In fact, he even believes he knows everything about this game. But he's more of a Jon Snow.
And if you prove him wrong, like I did many times before, he puts you on the ignore list because he can't handle being wrong. He even says so himself in his latest post.
The only one who is manipulative is he himself trying to get everyone to believe he's right and his opinion is the only one that matters.
If he needs the definition of manipulating, he should look into a mirror. It's actually the same as delusional!

 

[MrD812]

When a guy is bullying another guy in a group, there are two kinds of girls in this world (well 3, the third just goes along with it and we dont care about) - the kind that lectures the bully on his actions while staying near him, and the kind that seeks out the victim and comforts him.

Well what about the gal who decides to Kick the bully in the nutts?
Can't be to supersized Val would do that.

 

[MrD812]

When a guy is bullying another guy in a group, there are two kinds of girls in this world (well 3, the third just goes along with it and we dont care about) - the kind that lectures the bully on his actions while staying near him, and the kind that seeks out the victim and comforts him.

Justa' small example....

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Introducing a character like Val then having no lewd scenes should be a felonious offense when making a game....

Also, never have the free stock daz3d assets been used so well

 

[MrD812]

Introducing a character like Val then having no lewd scenes should be a felonious offense when making a game....

Also, never have the free stock daz3d assets been used so well

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Well, something to take into considerations for true "Erynn Only" playthroughs.
MC's actual sex life is in a memory of his would be "first girlfriend", Only.
Twice it 'Almost' happens with Erynn yet never finishes.

Can thank Nyx for that.

 

[Warscared]

Introducing a character like Val then having no lewd scenes should be a felonious offense when making a game....

Also, never have the free stock daz3d assets been used so well

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its your sister... i know its not a barrier for a great amount of people here but patreon does not allow for incest so...!

Wait what? Val isn't your sister. Unless that's some leaked news from next version....

then why didn´t Santiago married Emily? he is a Latino attached to his culture that is basically all about family!
if he got her preggers he would marry her, (or be an asshole and run away... ) he could not because he had already got another girl preggers and his family would have ostracized him, they even offered Emily money to avoid the shame and probably helped emily set up her business in exchange to avoid the shame!

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Wait what? Val isn't your sister. Unless that's some leaked news from next version....

 

[MrD812]

Wait what? Val isn't your sister. Unless that's some leaked news from next version....

She would be about the Coolest Sister MC could ever have!

 

[dolfe67]

Wait what? Val isn't your sister. Unless that's some leaked news from next version....

It's just a theory but could be right

 

[goulet1995]

It's just a theory but could be right

what is the theory based on?

 

[Cabin Fever]

what is the theory based on?

It's based on some people's undying desire to turn every game into an incest game.

 

[misfolk]

what is the theory based on?

Mr Navarro, the talent scout aka the guy the MC drinks with in the bar is:

1. Gabi's husband (100%), she has a picture of them together
2. MC's father Santiago (very likely), since they look and behave very much alike (even Gabi thinks the MC reminds her of her husband)
3. Valeria's father, since she treats him like he doesn't really matter on the track. She lost by a millisecond, he's someone who could get her into the MSU on an athletic scholarship, he notices her discomfort in Zach's arms and she just brushes him off. It's not a 100% match, but she certainly behaves like she knows him well.

 

[Cabin Fever]

Mr Navarro, the talent scout aka the guy the MC drinks with in the bar is:

1. Gabi's husband (100%), she has a picture of them together
2. MC's father Santiago (very likely), since they look and behave very much alike (even Gabi thinks the MC reminds her of her husband)
3. Valeria's father, since she treats him like he doesn't really matter on the track. She lost by a millisecond, he's someone who could get her into the MSU on an athletic scholarship, he notices her discomfort in Zach's arms and she just brushes him off. It's not a 100% match, but she certainly behaves like she knows him well.

So that begs the follow-up question - Does that mean Santiago got 2 girls pregnant at more or less the same time? Since MC & Valeria are in the same class they in theory should be more or less the same age, within a few months, no more than a year.