VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[nyrek]

You take that back immediately!

I actually agree with the guy
mel doesn't need to be in any banners
you start the game the first time
see her and that's it
she's just better than any other girl ingame
she doesn't need any advertising.

 

[MrD812]

Honestly, having replayed the game i just want Erynn and the MC to step beyond the "i'm not ready yet" which they've been stuck since chapter 7.
It's understandable at first but gets old fast.

Time has passed, not only in the real world, but in universe too(it's been like 2 weeks)... make a move, say something, just please stop dancing around the issue.

Would agree with this however, it's been since episode 5.

 

[Just Jericho]

The definition speaks volumes for it's self in fact and where things apply stands(it IS, what it is).

It really isn't though. Not even close. It's a blackmail situation, It's not cuckold nor is it NTR.

I'd also disagree that Erynn is "THE" main LI. She's the childhood friend trope. That's it.

Besides, we all know that the one true path is Valeria after all.

 

[MrD812]

It really isn't though. Not even close. It's a blackmail situation, It's not cuckold nor is it NTR.

I'd also disagree that Erynn is "THE" main LI. She's the childhood friend trope. That's it.

Besides, we all know that the one true path is Valeria after all.

Lets brake it down:

MC on Erynn's Path(she is his Love Interest).

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You, Me, Anyone can disagree all till are hearts content AND regardless of all other surrounding actions.
Will not change how things have been written.
Please feel free to show us all the definition(s).

 

[LMMFAO]

Alexis is the only LI that truly matters.

 

[Just Jericho]

Lets brake it down:

MC on Erynn's Path(she is his Love Interest).

He's restrained by Ethan's cronies.
She's on Video being fucked by someone that's not him.
Forced or not, the element is all there as a cuck.

Call it NTR, Cuck whatever Ya label it all, changes Nothing.

You, Me, Anyone can disagree all till are hearts content AND regardless of all other surrounding actions.
Will not change how things have been written.
Please feel free to show us all the definition(s).

That "someone that's not him" was her boyfriend at the time. Erynn fucking him is perfectly normal behavior and it's not even in the same realm as NTR lol. Erynn fucking her boyfriend is neither NTR or cuckolding.

Cucking would be if Erynn were intentionally fucking Ethan in front of MC to emasculate MC.

NTR would be if Ethan used the blackmail to force Erynn to cheat on MC against her will. But Erynn is not dating MC yet (so it wouldn't be cheating), and (more importantly) Ethan hasn't even gotten her to have sex with him yet. "Cheating" and "Stolen love" are kind of critical elements to NTR as is the emphasis on the feelings of the person being cheated on, not the person doing the cheating. What Ethan is doing is simple blackmail... Blackmail that did not succeed now that MC is involved. If there is a later scene where Erynn gives into Ethan and lets her bone her in front of MC in an effort to make Ethan delete the video, then it would be NTR, but that hasn't happened yet (and it's unlikely to).

The closest thing to NTR in Intertwined would be the affair with Gabi, but it would only be NTR if it was shown from Navarro's perspective. Seeing as how it's not though, that's not NTR either.

I'm increasingly certain you have no understanding of any of these tropes. I've honestly never seen someone so stubbornly wrong on these boards

If you want definitions, please feel free to google them.

 

[PeopleCallMeSmile]

Alexis is the only LI that truly matters.

 

[MrD812]

That "someone that's not him" was her boyfriend at the time. Erynn fucking him is perfectly normal behavior and it's not even in the same realm as NTR lol. Erynn fucking her boyfriend is neither NTR or cuckolding.

Cucking would be if Erynn were intentionally fucking Ethan in front of MC to emasculate MC.

NTR would be if Ethan used the blackmail to force Erynn to cheat on MC against her will. But Erynn is not dating MC yet, and (more importantly) Ethan hasn't even gotten her to have sex with him yet. "Cheating" and "Stolen love" are kind of critical elements to NTR. What Ethan is doing is simple blackmail... Blackmail that did not succeed now that MC is involved. If there is a later scene where Erynn gives into Ethan and lets her bone her in front of MC in an effort to make Ethan delete the video, then it would be NTR, but that hasn't happened yet (and it's unlikely to).

I'm increasingly certain you have no understanding of any of these tropes. I've honestly never seen someone so stubbornly wrong on these boards

If you want definitions, please feel free to google them.

Again---->Ethan's motives are irrelevant.
The emasculation, humiliation(forced or not), ect ect ect.
Elements are there.

Going on and on about Ethan's motives will not change what happen.
Think whatever You choose.

 

[Hadés562]

Again---->Ethan's motives are irrelevant.
The emasculation, humiliation(forced or not), ect ect ect.
Elements are there.

Going on and on about Ethan's motives will not change what happen.
Think whatever You choose.

Sorry, but you need to look up the definition of cuckold/cuck. That part with Ethan showing MC the video of Erynn having sex is not cuck. A cuck would be MC being aroused from seeing Erynn getting fucked by another man, but he instead gets angry. You lost this one.

 

[goulet1995]

i feel like im the only one not super into mel

 

[MrD812]

Sorry, but you need to look up the definition of cuckold/cuck. That part with Ethan showing MC the video of Erynn having sex is not cuck. A cuck would be MC being aroused from seeing Erynn getting fucked by another man, but he instead gets angry. You lost this one.

There is nothing to loose or win, period.
You go look up the parameters of the definitions and You WILL see The Elements are there.
And as stated prior, Ethan's Motives are null and void to---> Cause and Effect.

Example:

MC murders Ethan for what he's doing to Erynn.
Jail sentence can ensue---> Cause And Effect.

 

[robrize2169]

just finished my playthrough focusing on Nikki as main LI..and damn, that was a surprise to find out her dad is...Coach Mike.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

That "someone that's not him" was her boyfriend at the time. Erynn fucking him is perfectly normal behavior and it's not even in the same realm as NTR lol. Erynn fucking her boyfriend is neither NTR or cuckolding.

yeah but this was my point before, you're trying to convince an audience who many think a girl fucking her boyfriend is cucking, merely because the the observer is into the girl. The verb has become perverted from its definition to mean "anytime all the girls arent focused on my dick alone 100% of the time"

Having said that, the more I think about it - if we're being intellectually honest, almost seems like Nyx is preying on this skewed view in the writing, if this wasnt the prevailing attitude, the reaction from mc would be less anger at the video itself, and more anger at Ethan for blackmailing her. A normal person's reaction to seeing an gf's sex tape with an ex would be like "yeah no I don't particularly want to see that", but now thinking more about it, mc's reaction in game more resembles someone watching their current gf cheat on them.

Heh so I guess I'm saying I can see that perspective, even though it's not correct in the real world, since mc's reaction is written llike it is.

Though I will say if this is the sensitivity folks have towards this, better BUCKLE UP when the Iris dad story gets resolved.

 

[Deleted member 3788572]

hue, hue, hue, hue, you hear that schinoize?

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[Warscared]

yeah but this was my point before, you're trying to convince an audience who many think a girl fucking her boyfriend is cucking, merely because the the observer is into the girl. The verb has become perverted from its definition to mean "anytime all the girls arent focused on my dick alone 100% of the time"

Having said that, the more I think about it - if we're being intellectually honest, almost seems like Nyx is preying on this skewed view in the writing, if this wasnt the prevailing attitude, the reaction from mc would be less anger at the video itself, and more anger at Ethan for blackmailing her. A normal person's reaction to seeing an gf's sex tape with an ex would be like "yeah no I don't particularly want to see that", but now thinking more about it, mc's reaction in game more resembles someone watching their current gf cheat on them.

Heh so I guess I'm saying I can see that perspective, even though it's not correct in the real world, since mc's reaction is written llike it is.

Though I will say if this is the sensitivity folks have towards this, better BUCKLE UP when the Iris dad story gets resolved.

thanks for calling me wierd...
it as happened and i went ... get me the video here is my e-mail!
once i got the pictures and the videos
i called the dude for being a fucking disgusting creep!
no use in wasting fapping material, particularly when you know the hottie...
but yes i can make the difference and never miss treated her...
i mean why should i?
i always already fapping to her before the video
so only thing that changed was the stimulus was better!

and before you become judgmental busy bodies
i talked to her 5 years ago and 20 years ago
she use to flick her bean thinking of me so .... reciprocity i guess!

 

[SamualHand]

Again---->Ethan's motives are irrelevant.

Maybe you should ask Zach for help as he is your best friend!

 

[Just Jericho]

yeah but this was my point before, you're trying to convince an audience who many think a girl fucking her boyfriend is cucking, merely because the the observer is into the girl. The verb has become perverted from its definition to mean "anytime all the girls arent focused on my dick alone 100% of the time"

Having said that, the more I think about it - if we're being intellectually honest, almost seems like Nyx is preying on this skewed view in the writing, if this wasnt the prevailing attitude, the reaction from mc would be less anger at the video itself, and more anger at Ethan for blackmailing her. A normal person's reaction to seeing an gf's sex tape with an ex would be like "yeah no I don't particularly want to see that", but now thinking more about it, mc's reaction in game more resembles someone watching their current gf cheat on them.

Heh so I guess I'm saying I can see that perspective, even though it's not correct in the real world, since mc's reaction is written llike it is.

Though I will say if this is the sensitivity folks have towards this, better BUCKLE UP when the Iris dad story gets resolved.

I mean, we're talking about people who fundamentally don't understand what cucking or NTR is... Dudes who are incorrectly labeling scenes in Intertwined as Cucking/NTR because they're upset Erynn has gotten other dick in her lifetime. One of the dudes complaining was literally upset that Erynn didn't save her virginity for the MC... I really really doubt Nyx is writing the story with the skewed viewpoints of idiots like that in mind.

It's just a simple blackmail situation to create some drama in the story and to show how much of an asshole Ethan is. That's literally all it is. MC is upset in CH10 not because he's watching a video of his childhood crush fucking her boyfriend (because that interpretation is beyond ridiculous), He's upset because he found out that Ethan wasn't actually bluffing about the video and that Erynn's fears were true. He's upset because he cares about his childhood friend and she's dealing with some very real shit, not because she *gasp* fucked her boyfriend.

 

[MrD812]

I can understand you saying that it's an unpleasant scene, and that you don't like it. But you can't define things to your liking, this is blackmail with a video from 3 years ago of someone who isn't even your partner yet. It is a scene to provoke anger, anguish, or whatever you want to feel and that is what this scene intends for you to feel, but if you feel jealous, that they are taking a Li away from you or that someone is enjoying that situation. I think you have a big comprehension problem.

Suggest reading everything before replying to someones post.
Clearly You're as lost as Jericho85 and are so caught up in Ethan's Intent AND Labeling debates.
Not looking at nor Comprehending simple terms like ------> Elements Of

Try comprehending that.
Go Back and read everything.

While You're at it, comprehend this statement IF You Are Able to:

Call it NTR, Cuck whatever Ya label it all, changes Nothing.

Doesn't matter what Anyone labels it all, Elements Are There <----No Label will change what it is

 

[MrD812]

I'm not lost, just select your last message to reply to you. I have not talked about Ethan at any time. In any case, it would be cuck to Ethan that he was watching her live while he was recording her and he wanted to be with her at that moment.
I'm not going to call it what you want, for watching a video from 3 years ago, when the character didn't even talk to Erynn. You can call it whatever you want, but it's not even NTR, cuck, because you weren't related to that person.
I really do not know what you have against Erynn, but I have always seen it is the same, you seek to change reality at your will to see what you want, not reality. But if you are happy continue with your false ideas

Talked about Ethan

this is blackmail with a video from 3 years ago

Elements of Labels

It is a scene to provoke anger, anguish, or whatever you want to feel and that is what this scene intends for you to feel, but if you feel jealous, that they are taking a Li away from you or that someone is enjoying that situation.

Think whatever You wish!

 

[Just Jericho]

From what Your actions have been, there is little to no reason for me to trust Your word.
Have shown You're unable to grasp the simple term of Element, continuing to debate labels, stating Ethan's intent as if it changes anything...
& the list goes on.

And You say---> Trolling

deimos25 posts on here their experience with this title, as all of us can and have right to.

This is what You did--> https://f95zone.to/threads/intertwined-v0-10-5-nyx.53676/post-9868108

While i may not agree with everything he stated, he isn't wrong.

I'd say that is a perfectly valid response to a dude who rage quit because he was upset that Erynn didn't save her virginity for his MC lol.

And no, he was very wrong. That was a supremely awful take on the blackmail situation.