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If i'm not mistaken MC had to dig it out from Erynn in order to find out what's going on. In other words if there was't a fight betwin Ethan and MC she would probably remain silent about it. I do agree on part that it's not cool for not helping her out after she helped MC and acording to WT MC loses some points with Melissa if you rejected to help Erynn. However what some of us are saying is it's Erynn's fault for remaining silent about it and not asking help. She didn't tell her mom, best friend Lexi, her ex Zane and it only got worse for her cause Ethan, who's the main guilty party at this, didn't fulfill his part of a deal which was if Erynn went on prom with him he would delete video. After she saw that it will not end there with blackmail she could at least set him up, like get audio recorder, get camera and get confesion from him so you can end it. No, when ever Ethan told her to bow it's like how low do you want. MC was actually lucky that he managed to break through and decide whether to help her or stay out. It's really up to player to decide, everyone plays this game defferentely.
Well, i never denied that Erynn is stupid. She didn't even ask to see the recording before giving in to Ethan's blackmail. But does her stupidity mean that the MC should let her deal with this on her own? No, he should help her because that's what friends do.
 

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It's not NTR if you're not pursuing them. Let that woman get laid, I don't want her.
the reaction would be the same if it was true ntr its close enough for most to be upset by it. if im playing my laylay route i dont want to see erynn or the other LI who i have other saves for fucking anyone else
 
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Optional fan made i-patch.

Hey all, for those who care about it, i have made an i-patch build on KoGa3's walkthrough/ cheat MOD.
I have no idea if the patch works without his mod, i haven't tested. I also put in some simple hints for chapter 8 (+/-points and points needed) It's realy a hassle to conclude a branching path so even some good/bad choices from previous chapters change the outcome of new updates (good/bad depending on route).

For those wondering, yes i had to partly rewrite a chapter for this to work.

My .zip files do not have audio/music files so you still need to install KoGa3's mod first and then overwrite with my patch.

Enjoy all.
For some reason everytime ive tried to install your mod I get image not found
 

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Man, I feel bad for all the new people that are playing this VN. Imagine just coming to the comment section to see all these spoiler about Eryn and her blackmailing ordeal. :cry: (Glad I'm not taking that route cause Valeria best girl.) :love:
 

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the reaction would be the same if it was true ntr its close enough for most to be upset by it.
Why should anyone bother about this? I've never understand this (anti-)NTR-thingy because there are like 1312 definitions of NTR. I've read comments seriously stating that if any woman the player is interested in having sex in a game is already NTR. Even if this woman has no interest in MC, nor does the story dictate that there will ever be a relationship. These people complain about NTR because the player thinks a fictional character is so great. WTF?

Another comment was that if a woman has sex in a game at all and it doesn't take place with MC, it's already NTR. Seriously, what fantasy worlds do people like this live in and why are they so fragile? Since as a dev you can never please this bubble anyway, you can also shit on it directly and do your own thing. Someone is always whining anyway. The most popular games with the most Patreons are still the ones where the writers don't alter their stories to the players' liking but do their own thing.


Please, show us screen shots where she actually "lies".
He can't. But I know what he meant. Erynn is initially evasive when answering questions and doesn't directly tell MC how she is related to Ethan and why. All of this is not lying, but it is not the presentation of truth either. But one shouldn't overlook the fact that Erynn didn't want to turn her problems into MC's problems. She wanted to keep MC out of it. She says so too. If MC hadn't pressured her and argued with her, he would have remained clueless. It's not like Erynn was just waiting for MC's return to burden him with her problems. The fact remains: it is not a lie if you have a secret and do not talk about it.


Man, I feel bad for all the new people that are playing this VN. Imagine just coming to the comment section to see all these spoiler about Eryn and her blackmailing ordeal.
You don't have to feel bad. That's their problem if they spoil themselves. Just don't read the comments.
(Glad I'm not taking that route cause Valeria best girl.)
A greater truth was never spoken. But I have to admit that my Lexi save is almost on the same level. I also like the Layla route. If I had to rank it, it would be Valeria > Lexi = Layla > Elena > big long void > Riverside girls.
 
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Why should anyone bother about this? I've never understand this (anti-)NTR-thingy because there are like 1312 definitions of NTR. I've read comments seriously stating that if any woman the player is interested in having sex in a game is already NTR. Even if this woman has no interest in MC, nor does the story dictate that there will ever be a relationship. These people complain about NTR because the player thinks a fictional character is so great. WTF?

Another comment was that if a woman has sex in a game at all and it doesn't take place with MC, it's already NTR. Seriously, what fantasy worlds do people like this live in and why are they so fragile? Since as a dev you can never please this bubble anyway, you can also shit on it directly and do your own thing. Someone is always whining anyway. The most popular games with the most Patreons are still the ones where the writers don't alter their stories to the players' liking but do their own thing.
imo it dosnt add anything at all to the story if your not on a characters route likely means your either not interested in them or your on a save focused on someone else at the time in neither case do i want to see a scene with a LI with someone else
 
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imo it dosnt add anything at all to the story if your not on a characters route likely means your either not interested in them or your on a save focused on someone else at the time in neither case do i want to see a scene with a LI with someone else
Yeah, well, that's your problem after all. But you can't ask a dev to change the story just to suit your personal taste. A dev should always tell the story he or she has in mind and not care if individuals would tell it differently. If a lot of players like the story, it's okay. If no one likes them, it's bad luck for the dev. But you should never put too much stock in vested interests. If you try to please everyone, you will please no one. Everybodys darling is everybodys asshole. That's how I see it. It's absolutely fine if you see it differently.
 

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Yeah, well, that's your problem after all. But you can't ask a dev to change the story just to suit your personal taste. A dev should always tell the story he or she has in mind and not care if individuals would tell it differently. If a lot of players like the story, it's okay. If no one likes them, it's bad luck for the dev. But you should never put too much stock in vested interests. If you try to please everyone, you will please no one. Everybodys darling is everybodys asshole. That's how I see it. It's absolutely fine if you see it differently.
either way if that kind of thing where added its seems like it would probably be avoidable like the mom and jon thing how you can veto it as long as it avoidable id be fine with it
 

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Why should anyone bother about this? I've never understand this (anti-)NTR-thingy because there are like 1312 definitions of NTR. I've read comments seriously stating that if any woman the player is interested in having sex in a game is already NTR. Even if this woman has no interest in MC, nor does the story dictate that there will ever be a relationship. These people complain about NTR because the player thinks a fictional character is so great. WTF?

Another comment was that if a woman has sex in a game at all and it doesn't take place with MC, it's already NTR. Seriously, what fantasy worlds do people like this live in and why are they so fragile? Since as a dev you can never please this bubble anyway, you can also shit on it directly and do your own thing. Someone is always whining anyway. The most popular games with the most Patreons are still the ones where the writers don't alter their stories to the players' liking but do their own thing.


He can't. But I know what he meant. Erynn is initially evasive when answering questions and doesn't directly tell MC how she is related to Ethan and why. All of this is not lying, but it is not the presentation of truth either. But one shouldn't overlook the fact that Erynn didn't want to turn her problems into MC's problems. She wanted to keep MC out of it. She says so too. If MC hadn't pressured her and argued with her, he would have remained clueless. It's not like Erynn was just waiting for MC's return to burden him with her problems. The fact remains: it is not a lie if you have a secret and do not talk about it.


You don't have to feel bad. That's their problem if they spoil themselves. Just don't read the comments.A greater truth was never spoken. But I have to admit that my Lexi save is almost on the same level. I also like the Layla route. If I had to rank it, it would be Valeria > Lexi = Layla > Elena > big long void > Riverside girls.
Knew there are none, just as You stated and mainly making point.
Any one whom has Legit Goals as a Teacher AND Modeling profession.
Life plans ruined by smut being released to public can AND Have.

Career and Personal Life altering repercussions.
Valid reason for any person not to let it be known by family, friends, neighbors.
To judge someone not being forthcoming in such a case, is very short sighted to say the least.
 
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Yeah, well, that's your problem after all. But you can't ask a dev to change the story just to suit your personal taste. A dev should always tell the story he or she has in mind and not care if individuals would tell it differently. If a lot of players like the story, it's okay. If no one likes them, it's bad luck for the dev. But you should never put too much stock in vested interests. If you try to please everyone, you will please no one. Everybodys darling is everybodys asshole. That's how I see it. It's absolutely fine if you see it differently.
I think part of the problem is whether the developer sees a project as a work of art, an expression of something inside, or as a product to be marketed. In the latter case, it is perhaps a valid business model to build a game based upon maximum acceptance.

I hope remain in the former group in my work. I was actually inspired to make my own because I was inspired/challenged by the works of other developers. It was a case of being unhappy with the way things are dealt with (Such as a "cheating harem"), and wanted to create something different. (Suddenly hearing Isabella's song from Encanto in my head (What Else Can I Do?).

I just made something unexpected​
Something sharp, something new​
It's not symmetrical or perfect​
But it's beautiful and it's mine​
What else can I do?​
 

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Will there be romance with the girl athlete whose name I can't remember
well there are "quite" a many female athletes so you need to narrow it down, if you mean sha'carri then not yet/if at all or that other black girl then no.
 
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Really wish you didn’t have to start a new game again when the update drops, more and more devs games I’m dropping cause I don’t feel like starting from scratch again especially if it’s a big time consuming game. “Project Myriam & Grandmas house” are both huge games with lots of paths and choices and their updates never break the code and your saves always work with monthly or bi monthly updates. Just want more devs to be like them
 

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Really wish you didn’t have to start a new game again when the update drops, more and more devs games I’m dropping cause I don’t feel like starting from scratch again especially if it’s a big time consuming game. “Project Myriam & Grandmas house” are both huge games with lots of paths and choices and their updates never break the code and your saves always work with monthly or bi monthly updates. Just want more devs to be like them
I do agree with you and have the same sentiment. When i played episode 10 and heard that there will be remaster for episode 10 and some other episodes but also where gallery will be introduced i was like 50/50. I mean gallery is all welcome while need to replay entire game and all the routes was simpley cool of for me. I cooled of like perhaps for 3+ months before i returned. And i do think that when devs do a remaster they should at least try not to break old saves.
 

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I feel like you keep overlooking one small but nevertheless important detail. The game you are playing is in development.
Exactly. All these AVN are still in development progress. Otherwise we see an completed tag. But he is not alone in his view. Many players on F95 believe it would be some kind of serialized novels and not intermediate versions of unfinished games.
 

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I feel like you keep overlooking one small but nevertheless important detail. The game you are playing is in development. Any changes and things to be added are possible or even needed. You are waiting (and paying) for it to continue to be developed and eventually completed. So be ready to start from scratch if needed. See no problem here. Whining about what might happen is just wasting time. That's uncomfortable, though, but still not so dramatic, I think.
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I can read fine and both games I mentioned are also in development but their dev doesn’t break the code, maybe you have all the time in the world (good for you) to start time consuming games over from scratch, I don’t
 
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both games I mentioned are also in development but their dev doesn’t break the code
You've definitely never written a program. Sometimes it's inevitable that changes are so profound. We're talking about Ren'Py and Python here. If you are so annoyed that the saves might not work after a version jump, then it's better to only play the completely finished AVN.
 
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