VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[Acsuka]

I also succeeded in my last playthrough on the Layla route. For my part, I am satisfied with this update. Finally, there is some progress on Layla's route. In fact, I think that if you made the right decision and choose Layla in the end, there can be much more to this relationship in the future... Of course, only if you got the threesome in the hot tub. It can be seen that Elena is also included in the possible trio...However, if you choose Elena in the end, you will definitely lose both girls. Elena will not choose MC over her best friend (there is chemistry between them, but not enough). As for the other big dust-up girl, she is Valéria...I also have my own theory and it's simple: We know that Val only appears when you're in a relationship with Alexx...Maybe it's strange even if you didn't show interest in her before. ..Until now, everyone saw her as a cute little girl...But believe me, she's not: Valéria is a real hunter and now MC is the victim, she will be the trophy and that's why she does everything...Why does she only hunt on Alex's trail? The explanation is simple: girls her age are not her opponents, but Alex is an older and more experienced girl, so the challenge and the glory are much greater... And don't let anyone believe that Daryll will get anything from her. He is just a toy that he has at hand and that he uses to get MC. But don't worry, he doesn't need BBF, he needs MC. This is a deliberately designed and fabricated version of the author, whether you like it or not. Think about it: you are naive to Alex, you haven't approached Valéria until now, and then you suddenly get scenes where you have no choice... This path will be painful for many players... Of course you can have a different opinion, but I can see it and wait for the next one update...

 

[Tremonia]

The only times it would make sense the MC is not invited is, if you had an bad break up with Alexis, or Erynn hates you.

And that's the part where I disagree. I understand from the point of view as a player to want to involved there but I have to see the characters as individuals with own intentions, own lifes, and own goals to achieve. If I try to understand why Iris and Erynn didn't invite him from their point of views and not from mine, I come to the conclusions I tried to explain here several times. We as players knows things the characters didn't know and that's a thing one could easy forget. Happened to me very often tbh.

 

[Dessolos]

And that's the part where I disagree. I understand from the point of view as a player to want to involved there but I have to see the characters as individuals with own intentions, own lifes, and own goals to achieve. If I try to understand why Iris and Erynn didn't invite him from their point of views and not from mine, I come to the conclusions I tried to explain here several times. We as players knows things the characters didn't know and that's a thing one could easy forget. Happened to me very often tbh.

I can get why Iris or Alexis may not invite the MC ( if you are not on Alexis route) but I feel like Erynn would at least if not for anything more than to to make up for lost time they were apart for those 5 years and it's spring break. while yes they have hung out prior to the beach i dont think they hung out alot with one another and she would see it as something fun as I dont recall they did anything fun together yet Unless you count the photoshoot.. Only way I see her not inviting is if you cheated on her or Alexis or maybe it was a last minute thing and she had no idea about but I feel if she knew ahead of time she would 100%

 

[Nurikabe]

I don't agree at all, she's been consistently forward, you can't put that down to "cousin influence", she invited him back home day 2 and then again the next day, then she fucked in the car... but she never blew anyone? That's a reeeeally hard sell.
And she straight up says she never brought any boys home, it's not just that Layla never caught her.

And someone who has the instincts "i'm gonna get my claws on him now before Erynn gets the chance" as you(and the game) suggests, it's also a hard sell when she's suddenly as pure as snow.
IMO it would've been better if she kept her edge, a girl who doesn't have limits, even against her BFF, could've opened so many stories of how often they competed with each other, sometimes without even noticing...

This is not the same but an interesting example. My ex-wife had been with 4 guys her whole life. Had never given a BJ, never had a boyfriend in high school, and never brought a boyfriend home. But she had a one-night stand with a dude on spring break that was completely against her character.

The last woman I dated wanted our second date to be at a swinger's party. There are all kinds of people. All kinds of experience levels. Purity is a judgment call, not an actual thing. But you don't have to buy it. That is the character Nyx has created. No amount of "evidence" or real-life examples can sway someone who has made up their mind. Whether you buy it or not, Alexis has been a favorite character of the fans, despite having all the crazy things that make it a "reeeeally hard sell."

I would go for the character you described too, though. The edgy, no-limits, backstabbing girl would be just as great for me.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

I would go for the character you described too, though. The edgy, no-limits, backstabbing girl would be just as great for me.

Looks like Val is a good candidate for that. We shall see.

 

[cxx]

That's the one, thanks! Do you know if I can use KoGa3's mod with the Walkthrough mod?

was at least on 10.x and before.

 

[Jacowboy]

If you say so. I think it's realistic.

Dude, you're just not getting my point are you... forget about what makes sense to you or not... the beach scene features 5, count them, FIVE LIs: Iris, Alexis, Erynn, Val & Tori... it should've been a "forced" scene that happens in various ways depending on your choices, even if you're single, because it's too juicy of a scene to just lock behind Alexis' paths... just the interactions with Daryl are enough of a reason to have that scene always play.

It's a massive missed opportunity to have the MC interact with basically half of the cast... If you're on Tori's path, she could've invited you to piss off Daryl (and you could've played that scene from the perspective of the other group on the beach)... if you're on Val's path, she could've invited you... if you're on no one else's path, you could've simply had a random run on the beach and found everyone having a nice time without inviting you...

There were soooo many interaction possibilities, AND the assets were all there... it really feels like Nyx went "ehh, fuck it"... again, a huge missed opportunity for no real reason at all. At this point it feels like there's only 2 main routes, Layla or Alexis, because everyone else's content seems to be locked behind those two, and that's kinda lame for many, many reasons.

 

[LSC82]

Well about Layla yes, Elena has some good content (together with the Layla content), Erynn....well she has content, didn't feel like she had any focus thought, especially not on her route.

Well yeah, i have no problem with the LI's breaking up with the MC, which happens in the game.
Val is negative received this update because it really doesn't fit with how she was portrayed until now. Dunno feels strange or like Nyx wants to force some drama for drama's sake and there is already enough of that, not every character needs a shit ton of that, it get's really tiring imo.

Hm, i haven't really noticed any racist comments, but that is more likely due to black guys usually being the main antagonists in ntr stories, so typical cliche.

Layla delivers in every aspect in this update, the scenes are sexy and even the possible break up, it's emotional, well acted and hits strongly as shit.
Erynn is ok but i still feel "robbed" if i don't have Alexis to trigger the beach scene... we've been talking about this for a few pages now, her solo ending feels abrupt.
Val kinda flipped the script this episode, i'll admit i never cared much for her, and i still found her behaviour weird, not the don't take anybody's shit girl from previous episodes.
There's a bunch of jokes about her taking the BBC because she's hanging out with Darryl, but i haven't seen any N word drops yet.
On Darryl he has a humanizing moment in the Layla part of the episode... and then he's at maximum douchebag harasser in later scenes, that makes it hard to emphatize with him...

This is not the same but an interesting example. My ex-wife had been with 4 guys her whole life. Had never given a BJ, never had a boyfriend in high school, and never brought a boyfriend home. But she had a one-night stand with a dude on spring break that was completely against her character.

The last woman I dated wanted our second date to be at a swinger's party. There are all kinds of people. All kinds of experience levels. Purity is a judgment call, not an actual thing. But you don't have to buy it. That is the character Nyx has created. No amount of "evidence" or real-life examples can sway someone who has made up their mind. Whether you buy it or not, Alexis has been a favorite character of the fans, despite having all the crazy things that make it a "reeeeally hard sell."

I would go for the character you described too, though. The edgy, no-limits, backstabbing girl would be just as great for me.

Of course everyone loves the girl that puts out(a lot) and is pretty much in every episode.
I find her too unbelievable, she starts dishonest, confident and sexually agressive and then... she flips a switch...
It's hard to understand how she never brought a boy home, yet she brings this one who:
She just met after 5 years.
Doesn't even remember her(that's how much of a relationship they had).
And presents serious danger to her friendships.
I've seen people do things with no logic, but that's too much "no logic" for a guy she barely knows, no matter how much of a Latino sex God he is lol.

And yeah i would prefer if she embraced her initial behaviour rather than switched, as a character i find her terrible and unbelievable, as a relationship she's uber dull.
But hey at least i can have sick pleasure destroying her confidence and pissing her off

Looks like Val is a good candidate for that. We shall see.

Hopefully no turn arounds this time, let her be bitchy and unrepentant.

 

[Just Jericho]

if you're on Val's path, she could've invited you...

Technically she did invite MC but he turned it down.

But yeah I agree. I don't see any reason why the beach scene had to be gated behind Alexis. Though if MC accepted the invitation from anyone else other than Erynn, Lexi, or Iris, it would have probably required quite a few more renders because of the different perspective.

 

[Acsuka]

Dude, you're just not getting my point are you... forget about what makes sense to you or not... the beach scene features 5, count them, FIVE LIs: Iris, Alexis, Erynn, Val & Tori... it should've been a "forced" scene that happens in various ways depending on your choices, even if you're single, because it's too juicy of a scene to just lock behind Alexis' paths... just the interactions with Daryl are enough of a reason to have that scene always play.

It's a massive missed opportunity to have the MC interact with basically half of the cast... If you're on Tori's path, she could've invited you to piss off Daryl (and you could've played that scene from the perspective of the other group on the beach)... if you're on Val's path, she could've invited you... if you're on no one else's path, you could've simply had a random run on the beach and found everyone having a nice time without inviting you...

There were soooo many interaction possibilities, AND the assets were all there... it really feels like Nyx went "ehh, fuck it"... again, a huge missed opportunity for no real reason at all. At this point it feels like there's only 2 main routes, Layla or Alexis, because everyone else's content seems to be locked behind those two, and that's kinda lame for many, many reasons.

Well, after the update, this is indeed the situation, although I would add Erynn as well because the relationship between them has developed a lot...

 

[Dessolos]

Well, after the update, this is indeed the situation, although I would add Erynn as well because the relationship between them has developed a lot...

Especially because if you are on her path you miss 1/2 of the content feels really off and disappointing the chapter kind of feels like it just ends randomly and makes it feel like it's a super short chapter yet if the beach scene was included would of made it so much better

 

[Jacowboy]

Technically she did invite MC but he turned it down.

But yeah I agree. I don't see any reason why the beach scene had to be gated behind Alexis. Though if MC accepted the invitation from anyone else other than Erynn, Lexi, or Iris, it would have probably required quite a few more renders because of the different perspective.

Yeah, of course it would've needed more renders and A LOT more writing, but I think it would've been well worth it just to finally have a scene where the MC has to interact with multiple characters at once and deal with the fallout depending on your choices... I mean, that's kind of the point of the game, no?

So yeah, it feels like laziness on the dev's part... either laziness or she felt she needed to push out an update and rushed the writing, because oh boy some scenes are a bit wonky on the writing side.

Don't get me started on that choice to explode on Alexis for that backwards cap thing... that was sooo badly written... such a poor way of starting a fight with one of the MGs... Same goes for how you can reject Layla out of nowhere for Elena... that could've also been handled better. Or like, why does Layla not say ANYTHING about that threesome smooch session they just had the previous day... you'd think she'd at least mention it in passing, right?

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Of course everyone loves the girl that puts out(a lot) and is pretty much in every episode.
I find her too unbelievable, she starts dishonest, confident and sexually agressive and then... she flips a switch...
It's hard to understand how she never brought a boy home, yet she brings this one who, she just met after 5 years, doesn't even remember her(that's how much of a relationship they had) and presents serious danger to her friendships.

And yeah i would prefer if she embraced her initial behaviour rather than switched, as a character i find her terrible and unbelievable, as a relationship she's uber dull.
But hey at least i can have sick pleasure destroying her confidence and pissing her off.

Actually this one acknowledged by the MC a few times in the game. Like he said he knew nothing about his gf, was he acted rashly to become her boyfriend etc. I felt like MC feels manipulated by Alexis.

For how believable she is, what I got from her path she had feelings for MC even before he left. On the plane, first she thought he was hot then after MC told his story she noticed who he is and decided to take her chances hence miles high club scene.
Then she regretted her decision and left MC, still she could not stop the emotions so she waited for him at the airport. Second date, MC showed up unannounced to her working place with Zach all charming and all so she could not stop her emotions again. She literally ditched her best friend so she can share another moment with MC again, so they went to concert together. Couldn't tell to Erynn, could not tell to MC because everything was going to shatter. All in all, what I gathered from her interactions she is madly in love with MC, probably more than Erynn and because of that she crosses every line she has. Therefore it is understandable she never gave bj, never bring any boy to her room, acting all shy, timid after they started to date etc. All these are new for her because what she feels for MC is unique too. So, I think she is one of the most believable in the game with her sister and I saw exactly same thing happened to a friend(that shit ended terribly for her though).

Hopefully no turn arounds this time, let her be bitchy and unrepentant.

I am not sure about it but like I said we will see.

Dude, you're just not getting my point are you... forget about what makes sense to you or not... the beach scene features 5, count them, FIVE LIs: Iris, Alexis, Erynn, Val & Tori... it should've been a "forced" scene that happens in various ways depending on your choices, even if you're single, because it's too juicy of a scene to just lock behind Alexis' paths... just the interactions with Daryl are enough of a reason to have that scene always play.

It's a massive missed opportunity to have the MC interact with basically half of the cast... If you're on Tori's path, she could've invited you to piss off Daryl (and you could've played that scene from the perspective of the other group on the beach)... if you're on Val's path, she could've invited you... if you're on no one else's path, you could've simply had a random run on the beach and found everyone having a nice time without inviting you...

There were soooo many interaction possibilities, AND the assets were all there... it really feels like Nyx went "ehh, fuck it"... again, a huge missed opportunity for no real reason at all. At this point it feels like there's only 2 main routes, Layla or Alexis, because everyone else's content seems to be locked behind those two, and that's kinda lame for many, many reasons.

 

[Deleted member 207916]

Spoiler: I AM SO SORRY LAYLA

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LSC82

Man it really pains to look at Layla crying. I presume that this scene is conected with Alexis. Is it the same if player chose Elena over Layla?

 

[Elduriel]

Man it really pains to look at Layla crying. I presume that this scene is conected with Alexis. Is it the same if player chose Elena over Layla?

that scene is when you reject Layla coz of Elena, nothing to do with Lexi

 

[Elduriel]

Dude, you're just not getting my point are you... forget about what makes sense to you or not... the beach scene features 5, count them, FIVE LIs: Iris, Alexis, Erynn, Val & Tori... it should've been a "forced" scene that happens in various ways depending on your choices, even if you're single, because it's too juicy of a scene to just lock behind Alexis' paths... just the interactions with Daryl are enough of a reason to have that scene always play.

It's a massive missed opportunity to have the MC interact with basically half of the cast... If you're on Tori's path, she could've invited you to piss off Daryl (and you could've played that scene from the perspective of the other group on the beach)... if you're on Val's path, she could've invited you... if you're on no one else's path, you could've simply had a random run on the beach and found everyone having a nice time without inviting you...

There were soooo many interaction possibilities, AND the assets were all there... it really feels like Nyx went "ehh, fuck it"... again, a huge missed opportunity for no real reason at all. At this point it feels like there's only 2 main routes, Layla or Alexis, because everyone else's content seems to be locked behind those two, and that's kinda lame for many, many reasons.

it's to force unneeded drama down the line... well you know what, I'm not fucking biting. You don't give us Elena without killing Layla inside, fine, I just won't touch that route and be done with it. Same with Iris locked behind Lexi, I like Iris a lot but not like this please. If given the option for a clean route for both I'd gladly take it, but not this forced bullshit.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

that scene is when you reject Layla coz of Elena, nothing to do with Lexi

I think these two scene should be together.

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[Acsuka]

Especially because if you are on her path you miss 1/2 of the content feels really off and disappointing the chapter kind of feels like it just ends randomly and makes it feel like it's a super short chapter yet if the beach scene was included would of made it so much better

It's true, if you're on Erynn's path, the content is short, but for those who are only interested in her, it's a big improvement...However, you can get new twists about her even if you're on Alex's path and kiss Erynn after the photo shoot. Also, you go to him in the dressing room on the beach... But for that, you need the right contact points for the answer options...

 

[Dessolos]

Actually this one acknowledged by the MC a few times in the game. Like he said he knew nothing about his gf, was he acted rashly to become her boyfriend etc. I felt like MC feels manipulated by Alexis.

For how believable she is, what I got from her path she had feelings for MC even before he left. On the plane, first she thought he was hot then after MC told his story she noticed who he is and decided to take her chances hence miles high club scene.
Then she regretted her decision and left MC, still she could not stop the emotions so she waited for him at the airport. Second date, MC showed up unannounced to her working place with Zach all charming and all so she could not stop her emotions again. She literally ditched her best friend so she can share another moment with MC again, so they went to concert together. Couldn't tell to Erynn, could not tell to MC because everything was going to shatter. All in all, what I gathered from her interactions she is madly in love with MC, probably more than Erynn and because of that she crosses every line she has. Therefore it is understandable she never gave bj, never bring any boy to her room, acting all shy, timid after they started to date etc. All these are new for her because what she feels for MC is unique too. So, I think she is one of the most believable in the game with her sister and I saw exactly same thing happened to a friend(that shit ended terribly for her though).

Well said exactly how I feel she is one of the more believable characters and I personally think probably one of the better ones in terms of character background. Hell after the initial break up with her after the Erynn drama comes to light and you get back together. Alexis feels like a proper girlfriend more than most LI on other avn games I've played. even Erynn kind of gives me that proper girlfriend feeling with how playful she is with the MC even tho they technically haven't acknowledged their feeling to on another yet just in their thoughts / head and aren't officially with on another yet and kinda are at the same time.

Yet with me thinking Alexis is a better character somehow I still prefer Erynn slightly more I don't know why hell Erynn makes me feel sad / bummed out when i finish a replay or update cause I need to wait for more .

 

[Deleted member 207916]

that scene is when you reject Layla coz of Elena, nothing to do with Lexi

I thought because of Layla mentioning Lex or Lexi that somehow is conected to Alexis. It really pains me to look at Layla crying. Nevertheless thanks for clearing things out.

I can't wait till September to get my hands on my laptop and play EP11.