Yeah, but in order to get closer to Elena we have to do things like go all nice and kissy on Layla on the beach for example, while IRL I wouldn't do that since I'm not interested in Layla. I'd simply try to get closer to Elena while keeping friendly relationship with Layla; also the game makes us visit a lot of characters, but there's 1 iirc scene with Elena, while IRL we'd most likely just try to find and talk with her 1 on 1 to see if there's a possibility of smth more serious. I know it's just a game, but from my perspective that route is not progressing naturally or realistically. Also the fact that I must say "4" or "Layla's legs" at the beginning to get that additional 1 pt without which I'm apparently unable te get the train scene with Elena is also imo slightly ridiculous.Most people don't see it as being forced. It has been explained here numerous times, often we are introduced to the one we fall in love with by a friend or by dating someone and meeting their friend. It is a bonus that we get to be with Layla and then her beautiful friend. A huge bummer that we have to break Layla's heart to get there.
Dude, I am trying to follow and understand. But your last point is that it upsets you that you get three choices, and two of the answers that get you points bother you. Don't want to say, "Layla's legs?" Then say, "4."Yeah, but in order to get closer to Elena we have to do things like go all nice and kissy on Layla on the beach for example, while IRL I wouldn't do that since I'm not interested in Layla. I'd simply try to get closer to Elena while keeping friendly relationship with Layla; also the game makes us visit a lot of character, while IRL we'd most likely just try to find and talk with Elena 1 on 1 to see if there's a possibility of smth more serious. I know it's just a game, but from my perspective that route is not progressing naturally or realistically. Also the fact that I must say that "4" or "Layla's legs" at the beginning to get that additional 1 pt without which I'm apparently unable te get the train scene with Elena is also imo slightly ridiculous.
thx but late, used urm and it "bit" fucked up game by giving mc's new name to not mc things.In my Cheat Mod you can rename the MC, but it's a bit hidden: while playing the game press the Mod menu button at the bottom (or press "Shift" +"k") -> Additional game settings -> Change MC name
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After the renaming and making a new save you can delete my Mod again if not needed
Dude, I am trying to follow and understand. But your last point is that it upsets you that you get three choices, and two of the answers that get you points bother you. Don't want to say, "Layla's legs?" Then say, "4."
I have, on more than one occasion, dated someone who was friends with the girl I really wanted to date. That is how I got with my wife. Seems pretty realistic. But I get why that rubs people the wrong way. Layla is fricken perfect. Breaking her heart really sucks. It's just a step in a game to get where you want. Not interested in Layla? Perfect! She is just the midlevel boss to get to Elena.
Hahahaha, yep. Had that happen too.View attachment 2876189
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Lol. What I meant is that not saying either "4" or "Layla's legs" means you won't get 1 Layla relationship point and without that point you can't get Elena's scene in the train, which I think is a bit too much. The amount of pts required to get Elena's scenes is imo too high (but that's maybe changed since I've played last).Dude, I am trying to follow and understand. But your last point is that it upsets you that you get three choices, and two of the answers that get you points bother you. Don't want to say, "Layla's legs?" Then say, "4."
I have, on more than one occasion, dated someone who was friends with the girl I really wanted to date. That is how I got with my wife. Seems pretty realistic. But I get why that rubs people the wrong way. Layla is fricken perfect. Breaking her heart really sucks. It's just a step in a game to get where you want. Not interested in Layla? Perfect! She is just the midlevel boss to get to Elena.
Yeah, it would be nice to be able to grow the friendship with Layla with the intention of going after Elena.Lol. What I meant is that not saying either "4" or "Layla's legs" means you won't get 1 Layla relationship point and without that point you can't get Elena's scene in the train, which I think is a bit too much. The amount of pts required to get Elena's scenes is imo too high (but that's maybe changed since I've played last).
I get that Elena might like MC only cause she sees him with Layla, but I still don't see why I must kiss Layla and say things suggesting I'm romantically interested in her, while I'm only interested in Elena (why not hang out with Layla as buddies and keep trying to get closer to Elena without what's basically lying to Layla, esp. from the perspective of the player that's not interested in Layla's romantic route at all). Preferably I'd simply like to ask Elena if she's interested. If she's not then it's ok, I can completely accept that, but I don't have that choice, instead I have to (pretend to) be interested in dating Layla just to get closer to Elena. Personally I would never date a girl I'm not interested in in order to get closer to some other girl, seems to be too - let's say - underhanded tactic for me.
The point is Elena isn't interested in the MC until she gets to know him through Layla. It sucks because that brings love triangle drama but that's how it is.Lol. What I meant is that not saying either "4" or "Layla's legs" means you won't get 1 Layla relationship point and without that point you can't get Elena's scene in the train, which I think is a bit too much. The amount of pts required to get Elena's scenes is imo too high (but that's maybe changed since I've played last).
I get that Elena might like MC only cause she sees him with Layla, but I still don't see why I must kiss Layla and say things suggesting I'm romantically interested in her, while I'm only interested in Elena (why not hang out with Layla as buddies and keep trying to get closer to Elena without what's basically lying to Layla, esp. from the perspective of the player that's not interested in Layla's romantic route at all). Preferably I'd simply like to ask Elena if she's interested. If she's not then it's ok, I can completely accept that, but I don't have that choice, instead I have to (pretend to) be interested in dating Layla just to get closer to Elena. Personally I would never date a girl I'm not interested in in order to get closer to some other girl, seems to be too - let's say - underhanded tactic for me.
Exactly. In fact, I have a theory that Elena might be more interested in girls, considering how hostile she tends to be towards advances from guys, and it is through seeing your relationship with Layla that she starts falling for you... but like I've said, I'm pretty sure she also has a thing for Layla, so the throuple idea sounds like the best outcome for those three.The point is Elena isn't interested in the MC until she gets to know him through Layla. It sucks because that brings love triangle drama but that's how it is.
If I remember correctly Nyx said that is part of the reason for the reworking, as well as improving early renders she feels are outdated she's changing the code including bringing points requirements to trigger scenes down to better levels as she admitted they were too high.Lol. What I meant is that not saying either "4" or "Layla's legs" means you won't get 1 Layla relationship point and without that point you can't get Elena's scene in the train, which I think is a bit too much. The amount of pts required to get Elena's scenes is imo too high (but that's maybe changed since I've played last).
I get that, but knowing him through Layla doesn't equal for me MC having to basically date Layla just to get closer to Elena. Although I can understand that seeing him kissing and saying sweet things to Layla may awaken smth in her, I'd prefer to have an option where I just straight up ask Elena out after a while or smth similar and if MC will be rejected then so be it, no Layla and no Elena for him.The point is Elena isn't interested in the MC until she gets to know him through Layla. It sucks because that brings love triangle drama but that's how it is.
That's good to know. Thanks! I'll wait for the rework then.If I remember correctly Nyx said that is part of the reason for the reworking, as well as improving early renders she feels are outdated she's changing the code including bringing points requirements to trigger scenes down to better levels as she admitted they were too high.
What version are your saves from? Saves from before 10.5 won't work.I am getting bunch of exception errors, is this because of multi-mod?
Yeah they're before 10.5. They're working but sometimes i got this exceptions, scene gets cutoff and jumps to the next scene. It's playable but little annoying.What version are your saves from? Saves from before 10.5 won't work.
Unfortunately it's the rework for 10.5 that's causing it, you'd be better starting again or using saves that other people have posted (I believe Elduriel may have posted their saves at some point).Yeah they're before 10.5. They're working but sometimes i got this exceptions, scene gets cutoff and jumps to the next scene. It's playable but little annoying.