VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[LSC82]

i hear what youre saying, but for the sake of conversation, im not sure i agree. dont get me wrong, im a fan of this story, but does it really make sense? the entire ethan situation is odd. theres only 2 scenarios that i see making sense, and neither are what we have here. ill explain.
1: she went to prom with ethan, they had consensual sex, im guessing she was unaware it was recorded, and later ethan blackmails her with the tape. ok, but that really doesnt explain the level of trauma she displays. for sure, ethans a P.O.S. and no way would she trust him again, but our story takes place years later, the MC is "the 1 that got away". shes so into him that she will cut ties with her best friend if lexi doesnt get permission to touch the mc. and while i wouldnt expect her to jump his bones on day 1, having that much difficulty following through with intimacy that SHE is initiating feels wildly overblown.
or
2: the sex she had with ethan wasnt consensual, which would explain both the level of trauma, and her hesitation with the mc, but theres still big holes in this scenario. shes been raped, ethan is dumb enough to keep the evidence on his phone, then blackmails her by saying he will release evidence of HIS crime to the public, and she tells no one? not even lexi? something doesnt add up.
maybe im wrong. but even if im not, its still a entertaining game. i dont really need it to make perfect sense, those are just some thoughts i have on it

She hasn't had sex with Ethan, the sex was with Zane, a different guy(yet to be revealed).

I guess you have to try and see things from the perspective of a inexperienced, romantic young woman... and basically right after she lost her virginity, the fallout from this event meant that she lost her relationship with her boyfriend(the aforementioned Zane) and she was forced to do demeaning work that makes her hugely despressed... this left a huge trauma in her.

There's no logical reason for her to be hesitant about being in a relationship with the MC(other than the fact that he might be a huge "Playa", depending on how you approach the game), this is obviously a very different relationship/situation.
But people with traumas rarely think things in a logical, pragmatic way... her past trauma still weights on her despite this being a entirely different guy.

This part i think is solid, the girl has trust issues, she has a huge history with our guy(one might say the backyard scene is where things started going wrong for her), so she puts a lot of weight into this relationship...
That makes her hesitant to take the big step, she fears getting hurt again (doesn't have to be logical for a traumatized person).
And yes, it can be annoying dealing with trauma from others at times... but i still emphatize with the character.

The part that is frustrating to me is that in a game like this we have to wait for the writer to allow us to take the next step and commit, it already seems obvious to me but the game doesn't allow me to do it...
A girl with trust issues needs to be reassured and feel safe and loved, until she learns she doesn't need to be afraid, but the game doesn't offer this option we have to "play disinterested" which just seems so wrong for the situation.

 

[chuck42]

It's more wobbly but the point stands, yes.

Why is she so afraid of intimacy with MC ?
We don't know how this shit got recorded, especially if Ethan wasn't there (which I do believe he wasn't), but that shouldn't be something she should fear with MC...

Is it fear of changing their relationship ? Is she so caught up in the blackmailing that she doesn't feel like being intimate ? Or even feel unworthy ?
So much possibilities but the scenes don't give shit for intel for either theories.... So we're just flailing blindly until they do the deed and MAYBE then, Erynn will tell why she took so long to be intimate with her crush of 5+ years (a crush that's so important to her that every other relationship comes second. Seriously carrying a torch for that long for a guy 3 years younger, especially at their ages back then is unheard of).

Unless we actually have a reason told by Erynn at one point ? Which is possible... I maybe missed a scene or my memory is clanky... In this case, I'd be glad to know.

fear of changing the relationship? we get nothing to support that, and much to the contrary. but people dont always say what they mean, and can even fool themselves as far as understanding their own motives...... ill say that is a valid point. thought provoking at the least.

 

[Deleted member 313508]

how many girls can we romance in one playthrough

With some exceptions, pretty much all of them. You'll just be forced at some point to make choices to break up with (or be broken up with) at certain points in the story.

 

[LSC82]

fear of changing the relationship? we get nothing to support that, and much to the contrary. but people dont always say what they mean, and can even fool themselves as far as understanding their own motives...... ill say that is a valid point. thought provoking at the least.

I still think where you go wrong is expecting logic from a traumatized person.
She's afraid to take the leap and give herself in, even if she has no reason to be so afraid.

 

[chuck42]

I still think where you go wrong is expecting logic from a traumatized person.
She's afraid to take the leap and give herself in, even if she has no reason to be so afraid.

maybe its the term trauma thats part of the issue here. if so, the fault would be mine. theres levels to such a term. so maybe i was unclear. she doesnt strike me as a drama queen, in fact, she takes a joke and other situations fairly well. which is why i still find the level, or intensity of scarring/trauma questionable. meh, i still enjoy my time playing it. and since i have already felt the shameful slap of a fact checking crazyrabbit lol. im not prepared to die on this particular hill just yet. ill call it, to be continued.

 

[LSC82]

maybe its the term trauma thats part of the issue here. if so, the fault would be mine. theres levels to such a term. so maybe i was unclear. she doesnt strike me as a drama queen, in fact, she takes a joke and other situations fairly well. which is why i still find the level, or intensity of scarring/trauma questionable. meh, i still enjoy my time playing it. and since i have already felt the shameful slap of a fact checking crazyrabbit lol. im not prepared to die on this particular hill just yet. ill call it, to be continued.

I'd say the game makes no secrets that this event left her deeply scarred, i really don't know how anyone questions it honestly...
The fact that she does try to put on a brave face and pretend that everything is peachy in front of people(the MC even notices that), she's been hiding this trauma from her mom and her friends for years afterall... doesn't mean that the trauma doesn't exist.

 

[Wills747]

Hi all, my compressed unofficial Android port of Intertwined v0.11.2 with scrappy WT and gallery mod
Usual gestures, save name/delete, rename save pages, seethru textbox resizeable text etc etc
Alternative persistent saves/log location
Grant storage permissions on first run!

Special Instructions:

Install apk.
Grant storage permissions on first run!
On first run you will get a prompt to copy the archive.rpa file to documents/Wills747/inter.twined/game folder.
(game will quit now)
Copy the archive.rpa file to the directory indicated in game.
Restart the game.
Keep in mind if your default install location is an actual SD card and slow speed this may slow the launch.
Also, keep archive.rpa. I'll likely use it for future updates to minimise the apk size.

10.0 RPA file
Mega


0.11.2 Update apk. You'll need to download the RPA file above if you don't have it already

Mega

Updated my Android port to 0.11.2

 

[chuck42]

I'd say the game makes no secrets that this event left her deeply scarred, i really don't know how anyone questions it honestly...
The fact that she does try to put on a brave face and pretend that everything is peachy in front of people(the MC even notices that), she's been hiding this trauma from her mom and her friends for years afterall... doesn't mean that the trauma doesn't exist.

hmmm, i guess its in my nature to question things. seems like a good trait to me, but im clearly bias there lol. however, my question was weather the severity of her issues fits what we know about the cause. at no point did i, or anyone else say that trauma was, or even should be non existent. not sure where you got that. all good though.

 

[LSC82]

hmmm, i guess its in my nature to question things. seems like a good trait to me, but im clearly bias there lol. however, my question was weather the severity of her issues fits what we know about the cause. at no point did i, or anyone else say that trauma was, or even should be non existent. not sure where you got that. all good though.

As i pointed out you can't expect logic from a traumatized person, things that to you may seem "not that serious", "she should get over it" to the person in question can be absolutely haunting.
This game makes no secret on how hurt she still is by this event, the number of time she cries over it, how afraid she is of telling her mom, including John in on the plans... it really hammers home the point that "this girl is traumatized and scared" to anyone who is paying attention.

You repeatedly question the severity of the trauma, you just did it AGAIN (before asking "where did i get that").
So i'm telling you(again) it's a very serious issue as far as she is concerned, it haunts her, makes her sad, depressed and afraid... afraid of many things, even having a happy moment with the MC makes her afraid of what will be the consequences of this, will this event affect their relationship... we just saw Erynn have a huge freak out after the "petting" scene this episode, doesn't get any more obvious than that how afraid this person is.
At this point it's not really up for discussion and you are not bringing any insightful counter arguments... just asking "how serious is it really?" over and over.

I think to be an insightful "question guy" it helps to be well informed(obviously) and honestly the impression i get from you is that you skimmed through things in a rush.
Since you apparently missed all the hints of how truly deeply hurt she is...
And even the correct events of the blackmail.

 

[MrD812]

hmmm, i guess its in my nature to question things. seems like a good trait to me, but im clearly bias there lol. however, my question was weather the severity of her issues fits what we know about the cause. at no point did i, or anyone else say that trauma was, or even should be non existent. not sure where you got that. all good though.

Would be prudent placing things in correct perspective.
The author has Erynn's path riddled with these inconsistencies.
Don't over examine and judge the character, for the author dropping the ball.

Expect it to happen, as it has often from early episodes onward.
Not exclusive to Erynn, as many here have pointed out accurately.
Expect No Valid relationships dynamics.

Examples can be observed in several instances.
Much like EP5's clothing store relationship milestone.
It's not something easily discarded as though it never happen.

Especially for two as close as they were with their given history.
Couples consenting to BF/GF-status(an item) in public as they did in that scene.
Is not easily taken as a joke(test it with your actual GF) and if anyone has doubt.

Ask 10 mature/experienced Females.

One's don't have to be deeply in-love, for it to be a legit and meaningful event.
It really is a big-deal for guys too, so don't think for one moment it means nothing.
Is logical, especially for those whom have relationships experiences know it's true.

Make no mistake, Not trying to stick up for Nyx(She's GUILTY as ALL Hell).
However, take into account she's got much on her plate juggling things.
Clearly shows in the scripts over what, past 2 years?

Obviously doesn't have the experiences other then trolling for reaction(Drama).
Nyx is guilty.
Laugh at it all and Enjoy the ride just, don't expect any viable logic at all!

 

[NebulousShooter]

I personally refuse to be a cheating asshole, so I have lots of saves for solo paths, sue me. If I miss a scene or two that's fine by me Also no Tori, she is just... no.

Thats the thing, if you missed just some flavor renders, or even lewd scenes I will be ok with that, but you miss a lot of important character development for multiple characters, like in the beach scene this update. This game is chock-full of manufactured drama, but it doesn't trust the player to make it be consequences for player choices, you are more or less strong-armed to play that way if you want to maximize the screen time of your favorite LI in a single playthrough.

I'm making the most scumbag possible saves.

Finally a woman that plays the male main character the same way most males play the female main characters, run them into the most fucked up situations crotch first.

 

[chuck42]

Would be prudent placing things in correct perspective.
The author has Erynn's path riddled with these inconsistencies.
Don't over examine and judge the character, for the author doping the ball.

Make no mistake, Not trying to stick up for Nyx(She's GUILTY as ALL Hell).
However, take into account she's got much on her plate juggling things.
Clearly shows in the scripts over what, past 2 years?

Obviously doesn't have the experiences other then trolling for reaction(Drama).
Nyx is guilty.
Laugh at it all and Enjoy the ride just, don't expect any viable logic at all!

i agree, its a fun game. youre right, taking it too seriously is just silly. tbh, i didnt think i was. all i said is that i thought erynns reaction was odd, and why. im not sure how questioning the emotional response of a fictional charactor ends in triggering LSC82 into an oddly emotional tirade of misused quotation marks but, here we are lol. its why i had stopped responding. i do hope they recover from this "absolutely haunting" trauma in less time that it took erynn though. cheers!

 

[MrD812]

i agree, its a fun game. youre right, taking it too seriously is just silly. tbh, i didnt think i was. all i said is that i thought erynns reaction was odd, and why. im not sure how questioning the emotional response of a fictional charactor ends in triggering LSC82 into an oddly emotional tirade of misused quotation marks but, here we are lol. its why i had stopped responding. i do hope they recover from this "absolutely haunting" trauma in less time that it took erynn though. cheers!

Ah don't sweat it and i didn't really see it as triggering LSC82, was just more of a conversation in sharing.
Some of us are heavy readers, some not as much and some more often then not.
When things are just out of place/retarded, doesn't hurt to run it past others.

While some writers have a bit more experiences with relationships dynamics, varied trauma.
We can take the flow of things a bit more believable or even serious in some cases.
Not with this title but, who's to say Nyx doesn't improve with future titles?

Can only guess but nothing should stop anyone from enjoying what is or supporting her.
Regardless of how masochistic it may or may not be!

Cheers!

 

[Nurikabe]

I seriously do not understand this gripe about the drama. Drama is drama.
"Manufactured drama." "Illogical drama." "Too much drama."
Show me ANY movie, book, TV show, or ANY social media that does not have this drama. I will take ANY example.

This story is a story about teenagers, most of them women. Show me ANY example of a teenager's life lacking in drama. That IS the story. Why complain about the drama EVERY day? Is there possibly a better visual novel for you? One where you don't complain about what the story is about??

Or, and seriously consider this, just enjoy this visual novel for what it is. There are some legitimate complaints that are wide open. There are a lot of plot points that never go anywhere. Areas where drama is naturally growing. Nyx has chosen to ignore many of those opportunities.

mnotwoke and Bombmaster make some really interesting points where Nyx has laid all the groundwork for naturally occurring drama to bloom. This post and the one above it are great points to ponder. I would love to see something come of this and would love to see that Nyx has this type of story planned.

Notice the entire post is pregnant with drama?
By the way, nice to see someone on this thread has a clue about trauma and how it affects a person.

 

[LSC82]

i agree, its a fun game. youre right, taking it too seriously is just silly. tbh, i didnt think i was. all i said is that i thought erynns reaction was odd, and why. im not sure how questioning the emotional response of a fictional charactor ends in triggering LSC82 into an oddly emotional tirade of misused quotation marks but, here we are lol. its why i had stopped responding. i do hope they recover from this "absolutely haunting" trauma in less time that it took erynn though. cheers!

LoL maybe stop repeating dumb innocuous arguments over and over and i'll be "less triggered", some people really

And please tough guy have the decency of tagging me when you are gonna mock me

 

[cxx]

I think fucking stepmothers should be fine, though I'm not a lawyer... also I'm pretty the first time they fucked she wasn't divorced

lawyer doesn't have anything to do with patreon and it's rules.

how many girls can we romance in one playthrough

mostly 1, on 1 path 2 to get other girl's path open but that most likely won't lead to 3some.

 

[Trainer7]

Is the beach scene with Alexis, Erynn and Iris bugged or do you have to be on the Alexis path to get it?

 

[cxx]

Is the beach scene with Alexis, Erynn and Iris bugged or do you have to be on the Alexis path to get it?

no and yes.

 

[NebulousShooter]

Is the beach scene with Alexis, Erynn and Iris bugged or do you have to be on the Alexis path to get it?

Alexis, or Alexis secret path

 

[Trainer7]

no and yes.

Alexis, or Alexis secret path

Pity, thanks though, still a good update!