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You haven't played the last chapter yet?
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Defenestrator.for.traitor
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I did, it was a weak excuse. I don't think anyone who got molested would stay silent not to make a scene in that situation. It was almost as weak as MC said he understood Elena was talking about him but did not want to make it weird.
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No I'm skipping it...what's relevent with her? (not that that discounts everything she has 'let slide' previously though).
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Well, I've bad news for you. That's how girls/women are teached to handle gropy behavior of men.
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Lol sorry Trem...no it isn't. Maybe in Germany perhaps or Japan or it's become a thing there over the years but no women I have ever met or talked to has ever been taught to 'not do anything' if groped, especially in a group/public setting.
Maybe a hundred years ago that might have applied...
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WTF, does that mean i have been wrongly slapped hundreds of times all of my life?
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See? That's the problem. The most women don't even recognized that society teached them to "don't make a scene" when someone "accidently" touch their ass or breast, just an example. It starts in childhood, when girls are taught not to behave like that when their uncle, grandfather, aunt, whoever, hugs and kisses them without being asked. As a girl, you have to put up with it. Over time, you will be able to bear a lot and work it out with yourself. The fact that men don't see and/or understand this is a given.
Sorry, no offense, but only women don't talk with you about it, doesn't mean it didn't happened.
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Yeah...in the age of feminism, Me Too and and a hundred other things that young girls are 'taught' in this dat and age, we're going to have to agree to diagree Trem.
Maybe when you were growing up it was like that....maybe women who have been conditionally abused for 30+ years believe that and would let things slide, no 18yo it ever going to let that behaviour slide in the West, or sure as hell not from what they were 'taught'.
Also Trem, please don't ever, and I mean ever, (just because I'm a man) assume again I have no knowledge or experience with women's abuse trauma, or what some women have had to put up with, ok because that, is a very typical response to a man from a woman and I won't accept or take that shit, not from you nor anyone else.
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That's too stereotypical for me. Yes, there are such cases, but not only. My favorite taboo topic: domestic violence by women!!!! The number of unreported cases is estimated to be just as high as domestic violence by men!!!
In my opinion it all depends on four factors:
1. What personality was the boy or girl born with?
2. How were the girls and boys raised? The range from totality to no education at all is included here. I can tell you stories that will make your ears flap about what parents do to their children these days.
3. What social environment do the boys and girls live in?
4. What values or world views do they live by? (both within the family and within society)?
These factors shape the children, BUT AS ALWAYS: EXCEPTIONS PROVE THE RULE!
We've been in the 'post-' age for awhile now...the fact such lines are still oft repeated is more evidence at how strongly one side won the culture wars.
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I am sorry to hear that. Even if it's not a norm, which is not where I am from, this is a topic that one is too many.
Though, that still does not explain Val's behaviour is it? Even if women thought to kept silent, we established that Val is not one of them. So not enough explanation.
Only explanation I have, Nyx creates scenes without regarding established character traits but according to what people tick. Sometimes it works, sometimes it fails. This was one of the time it failed. Also, Nyx said Val was not aware what he was doing and if she noticed she would have acted differently etc. Why did she back out of that statement?
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I thought Val's excuse for the Daryl thing on the beach was fine. Now I am using my own assumptions here but I figured she didn't want to make a scene because she didn't want to embarrass her self in public, which would make it a perfectly valid one to me. Now if really doesn't give a shit about public embarrassment then I don't know why she wouldn't put a stop to it. But also I assumed she was taught from a young age not to make a scenes in public because of her mother, assuming her mother is the actress from that tv show.
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