VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[cxx]

I have yet to understand what kind of evil plan it is to raise a child that isn't yours and spend years of money on it

well you could ask that from Njitap Geremi (footballer) for example.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Is Nyx more like Saruman or Sauron?

More like Witch-king of Angmar, you know the one who downed Gandalf the white then spooked by a horn.

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

well you could ask that from Njitap Geremi (footballer) for example.

First of all,

I've checked and it does not apply here. Andres did not like Emily at the beginning, we don't know when if he ever loved her. He hates Santi so he raised his unwanted son to punish him. As far as we know, there is no cheating(probably a lie tbh) and he knew what he was doing unlike Geremi.

We do not question being a step-father or raising someone else's child as yours. Being a foster parent or step-parent or anything alike is not a bad thing per se. We are questioning, mockingly not seeking a logic behind it, how is Andres punishing Santi being a father to his unwanted son.

Btw, I heard Andres was washing Santi's car at the weekends to punish him, is that correct?

 

[Dr.TSoni]

 

[xapican]

in the bar, it's santiago, he explicitly names himself, there is zero doubt.
and Adrianna's husband is most likely Zo, the basketball legend.

Ok why does Alexis call him "Dad" ? plus the shape and stature, Haircut matches, (could be a cognitive disonace) I'm shure, Zo was married to Adriana, but not anymore, I'm also shure that Ethan is Andres secret child, something like an generational rivalry, (very popular in TN's lately)

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Ok why does Alexis call him "Dad" ? plus the shape and stature, Haircut matches, (could be a cognitive disonace) I'm shure, Zo was married to Adriana, but not anymore, I'm also shure that Ethan is Andres secret child, something like an generational rivalry, (very popular in TN's lately)

One small tiny weeny problem with that, Andres has no balls to produce an offspring. Was it too harsh? I feel like it was too harsh.

 

[satoru99999]

Gabi and Santi are probably engaged and not legally married, so that would make it not incest the sex between MC and Gabi. Also explains the picture in the room where gabi is wearing a white dress, bc i have seen a lot of women who get engaged wear some sort of white dress but not the traditional wedding dress. So this case is like Mc with nikki/cara where he could have sex with them and not be incest bc at that time andress who is LEGALLY Mc father was only engaged so patreon TOS doesnt consider it incest.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

One small tiny weeny problem with that, Andres has no balls to produce an offspring. Was it too harsh? I feel like it was too harsh.

You just made an enemy for life, and tomorrow Andres is coming to clean your house for revenge

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

You just made an enemy for life, and tomorrow Andres is coming to clean your house for revenge

I also have an crazy ex if he is interested.

 

[HiP1]

Oh please, don't over do the dramatics. She wasn't betrayed by the MC and neither by Andres.
She sure does a piss poor job as parent if she can't deal with a moody 13y old kid, then sends him to his step dad, cause apparently Andres can deal with him and the MC blames him on ruining the relationship with his mother and cheating on her on top of that...

In the first place Andres being the bio dad or not, isn't even important, he was who raised the MC, what does it matter if he is not the sperm donator ?

yeah, totally agreed. i was just saying what Nyx was going for. painting Emily as a victim of every guy, even her son. MC betrayed her by not coming back and choosing to stay with Andres.

Nyx puts all the blame on Andres, just because of his intentions at first. erasing all he did for almost two decades for her.

I'm pretty sure, there will be a flashback scene showing Andres catching a conversation between Zo and Santiago where Santiago says he wants the kids and/or Zo pushes traditional family values ton convince his friend even more. then Andres would decide on his master evil plan to block Santiago from meeting his kid. all that just over a small irrelevant grudge.

 

[Dessolos]

Emily tried to visit MC, she made the trip all the way to Alvarado and MC refused to see her so she had to go back without seeing him. she was described as having made all the efforts, but MC was an asshole.

she intended to tell MC, but the promised specified that she had to wait for Andres to be ready. she just thought it would be way earlier while MC lived with his step dad. Andres never intended to reveal it, so he made the promise into something without any real expiration date. Emily should have set a hard deadline, at the very least when her son reaches 18, but ideally 15.

she is painted as a woman that is betrayed by all the men she trusted and cared about, her own son included.

I forgot she tried to visit but still I think she didn't try hard enough if she never saw him in 5 years. Still sounds like to me she probably gave up too easily. About the promise , not like they were married anymore so there was nothing forcing Emily to keep the secret based on when Andres wanted the MC to know. Frankly even if there was she should of still told him at some point Andres be damned. However I do kind of get why she never told him cause he was probably still a tad too young and never saw each other in 5 years when would of been the perfect chance to tell him somewhere in that time period. But it still comes back to my first point where I feel she didn't try hard enough or gave up too easily to see the MC.

 

[HiP1]

Ok why does Alexis call him "Dad" ? plus the shape and stature, Haircut matches, (could be a cognitive disonace) I'm shure, Zo was married to Adriana, but not anymore, I'm also shure that Ethan is Andres secret child, something like an generational rivalry, (very popular in TN's lately)

false cliffhanger. Alexis is just interrupted in her sentence by a customer. she is saying "my dad's friend". because of patreon TOS, Nyx can't have MC's biological dad as Alexis' dad, bio or not.
Zo most likely has very strong traditional family values, and his relationship with Adrianna is very faithful. neglected the family quite a bit because of his career, but he stopped it at his peak for them. That's where Alexis' high standards come from. her parents are the perfect couple she takes as an example all her life, and can't forgive any misstep from the MC. she enforces it on her sister too.

 

[HiP1]

I forgot she tried to visit but still I think she didn't try hard enough if she never saw him in 5 years. Still sounds like to me she probably gave up too easily. About the promise , not like they were married anymore so there was nothing forcing Emily to keep the secret based on when Andres wanted the MC to know. Frankly even if there was she should of still told him at some point Andres be damned. However I do kind of get why she never told him cause he was probably still a tad too young and never saw each other in 5 years when would of been the perfect chance to tell him somewhere in that time period. But it still comes back to my first point where I feel she didn't try hard enough or gave up too easily to see the MC.

yeah, she didn't try hard enough. but we can see she is a bit weak willed when it comes to MC. she probably saw that he was happy and didn't want to upset him, convincing herself that the next time would be the one. I think she did manage to have MC over the phone for holidays but not much more.

the promise was the condition for the marriage, but was not conditioned on the marriage. And even if they are divorced, she was still grateful for Andres' care and education for all these years, that counts in keeping the promise up. also she feared MC's reaction a ton. and she hoped Andres would break the news to MC, saving herself from the drama.
MC still respected Andres as his dad up until the forced drama scene. pretty sure, he would still respect him if there was no drama.

 

[Deleted member 6503042]

false cliffhanger. Alexis is just interrupted in her sentence by a customer. she is saying "my dad's friend". because of patreon TOS, Nyx can't have MC's biological dad as Alexis' dad, bio or not.
Zo most likely has very strong traditional family values, and his relationship with Adrianna is very faithful. neglected the family quite a bit because of his career, but he stopped it at his peak for them. That's where Alexis' high standards come from. her parents are the perfect couple she takes as an example all her life, and can't forgive any misstep from the MC. she enforces it on her sister too.

Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Nyx puts all the blame on Andres, just because of his intentions at first. erasing all he did for almost two decades for her.

I'm pretty sure, there will be a flashback scene showing Andres catching a conversation between Zo and Santiago where Santiago says he wants the kids and/or Zo pushes traditional family values ton convince his friend even more. then Andres would decide on his master evil plan to block Santiago from meeting his kid. all that just over a small irrelevant grudge

Mamma mia!
It's so absurd that it's already canon for me

 

[anonnyscouse]

I think Andres became the bad guy simply because Nyx changed her mind about Nikki dying. If Nikki died that would probably have ended the relationship with Cara too, the grief over Nikki meaning neither Cara or MC were feeling romantic enough or horny enough to continue their (very new) relationship. Alternatively Nikki dying could have been the catalyst for Andres and her mother breaking up negating the need for Andres to cheat in order to create a reason for the break up. Nikki not dying meant there had to be another reason for Nikki and Cara to not become MC's stepsisters and stay within Patreon's rules.

 

[HiP1]

I think Andres became the bad guy simply because Nyx changed her mind about Nikki dying. If Nikki died that would probably have ended the relationship with Cara too, the grief over Nikki meaning neither Cara or MC were feeling romantic enough or horny enough to continue their (very new) relationship. Alternatively Nikki dying could have been the catalyst for Andres and her mother breaking up negating the need for Andres to cheat in order to create a reason for the break up. Nikki not dying meant there had to be another reason for Nikki and Cara to not become MC's stepsisters and stay within Patreon's rules.

didn't even know that Nikki was originally supposed to die. might have been too dark for the tone she wanted to give to the story. Rachel dying and the blackmail stuff is already quite dark.

 

[Dessolos]

didn't even know that Nikki was originally supposed to die. might have been too dark for the tone she wanted to give to the story. Rachel dying and the blackmail stuff is already quite dark.

I heard there was apparently going to be some alternative Erynn NTR path where you could side with Nathan corrupt her and pimp her out or something. I forget exactly but I read something like that once. So yeah this game was originally going to be darker. Not gonna lie as much as Erynn is my favorite character kind of wish that never got cut as it could of been an interesting path to see once.

 

[anonnyscouse]

didn't even know that Nikki was originally supposed to die. might have been too dark for the tone she wanted to give to the story. Rachel dying and the blackmail stuff is already quite dark.

Nyx has mentioned quite a few changes from her original plan, Nikki was meant to die being hit by the car (the scene is still included but MC gets hit rather than Nikki and obviously doesn't die), Alexis was meant to be a one time fuck not a main love interest, there was meant to be a choice of not believing Erynn about her explanation about what happened over the confession and to side with Ethan to corrupt her (that's the reason for the corruption tag on this forum and also has one scene from that route still in game with no logical reason for it anymore as it just leads to an LI dumping you but provides no new contact (choosing to just walk past Erynn while Ethan is abusing her)).

 

[HiP1]

I heard there was apparently going to be some alternative Erynn NTR path where you could side with Nathan corrupt her and pimp her out or something. I forget exactly but I read something like that once. So yeah this game was originally going to be darker. Not gonna lie as much as Erynn is my favorite character kind of wish that never got cut as it could of been an interesting path to see once.

Nyx has mentioned quite a few changes from her original plan, Nikki was meant to die being hit by the car (the scene is still included but MC gets hit rather than Nikki and obviously doesn't die), Alexis was meant to be a one time fuck not a main love interest, there was meant to be a choice of not believing Erynn about her explanation about what happened over the confession and to side with Ethan to corrupt her (that's the reason for the corruption tag on this forum and also has one scene from that route still in game with no logical reason for it anymore as it just leads to an LI dumping you but provides no new contact (choosing to just walk past Erynn while Ethan is abusing her)).

thanks for the info.
corrupting Erynn could have been interesting to see on its own, but it would be hard to make it work with the rest of the game. but i'm probably biased because I have the hindsight of the following updates.