VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[Tremonia]

What the fuck does this (flawed) rant on the "morality of piracy" have to do with assholes coming in and complaining about development times, when they take it for free?

Nothing. But it's fun to read, no?

 

[Jarulf]

Nothing. But it's fun to read, no?

People actually read stuff like that?

 

[Tremonia]

People actually read stuff like that?

People also watching trash tv shows. You've to read such bullshit to find the joke in it. After reading it you laugh about it, feel pity for the author, and goes on like nothing happened. Until you read the next bullshit one meant serious.

 

[Jarulf]

You

People also watching trash tv shows. You've to read such bullshit to find the joke in it. After reading it you laugh about it, feel pity for the author, and goes on like nothing happened. Until you read the next bullshit one meant serious.

You're made of sterner stuff than I, I just don't have the patience

 

[Dessolos]

You

You're made of sterner stuff than I, I just don't have the patience

yeah I can watch trash tv but when it comes to reading bullshit or things I don't care about I have zero patience and just skip past it lol

 

[Justaphase]

What streaming should have taught everyone is that pirating is NOT about money. It's a failure of the market. When Netflix started streaming, pirating took a massive nosedive. Yes, it has massively increased again recently, but that is mostly due to the fact that watching a show now often involves as much time researching which service you need to go to and what tier of subscription you have to pay for as the time spent watching said show. Adult gaming has that problem and some significantly larger ones.

Advertising for these games is virtually impossible. Many of these games simply would not be approved on many platforms and even upon approval. Attitudes towards such content is still incredibly volatile on most platforms. Payment processors have actively been seeking to purge adult content against their and their investors best interests due to the most wishy-washy moral arguments you could imagine. On top of that, unlike any other form of entertainment, most games are never reviewed, streaming isn't really an option and watching lets plays is only slightly more viable. Even with sites such as this, you can spend Hours every day trying to find something worth your time.

Once you realize that virtually all of these games would literally cease to exist if not for sites like this one, people saying, "Hey, this dev has a history of going several months to well over a year w/o updates," is very valuable feedback. I've already bought a few games that I found on this site, but I'd prefer not to spend hundreds of dollars supporting a game hoping one day they'll get around to releasing the next update. Not even finish the game, that's already incredibly unlikely, but just to see a far from complete game finally updated. And, to be quite frank, until they are able to easily provide full animation and voice acting, most of these games will never be worth what many devs expect to receive. The market actively incentivizes the devs to never finish their games, instead it's in their best interest to shift onto another project to create another source of revenue.

For the most part I agree with you. I think that most of us are unfortunately in the position where we couldn't possibly afford to finanically support the development of every AVN that we like. So I am grateful (that's the key word here) for a site like this where I can try before I possibly buy.
Personally how I choose to help the developers of my favourite AVNs is by "buying" an update when it's released or about to be released. This allows me to spread the love and what I'm willing to spend amongst my favourite developers.
Anyway the point of my original post was that you can almost guarantee that many of the people on here complaining about developers and their supposed "milking" have never supported the developer and have no idea of what goes into making one.

 

[Ozymandias037]

What the fuck does this (flawed) rant on the "morality of piracy" have to do with assholes coming in and complaining about development times, when they take it for free?

I didn't see anything in there at all about the morality of piracy. I saw a claim that piracy is a market failure (for which there is ample evidence, although I wouldn't necessarily call it a proven point) and an opinion that payment processors are clamping down on adult content for "wishy-washy moral arguments," which I think is at least partly accurate. I'd hardly call it a rant, either.

That being said, I mostly disagree with the main point. I don't think any creator in the history of art has found "do more, faster! I'm impatient!" to be useful feedback.

 

[byaaahh]

I love how one person can say that another VN updates more frequently and the thread spirals into a "you don't pay for it" and a "we're free publicity" shit-slinging contest.

Let's get back to shitting on Zach...

 

[Dessolos]

Better yet lets talk about how Erynn is the best girl and deservers to be worshipped. She is getting all the head pats , hand holding and nose boops from me. Then after I kick Ethans ass and get rid of him for good she is gonna get that in overdrive she might be sick of me by then but would be worth it.

 

[cxx]

Better yet lets talk about how Erynn is the best girl and deservers to be worshipped.

and that'd be lie.

 

[Jungkook89]

Is there an android version?

 

[Jarulf]

Better yet lets talk about how Erynn is the best girl and deservers to be worshipped.

Erynn is a nice girl, Ethan is not a nice boy and should definitely get his for what he has put her through. Let's start with cutting off his little toe, he can choose which we take first.

But other than that, that post was so misguided you almost made it to my ignore list (currently empty I think)
All head pats, hand holding and similar lewd acts will be bestowed upon the actual best girl, Layla (and friends).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Dessolos has accidentally caused a waifu war that I'm staying out of lolz.

While Erryn is still my waifu of choice, Id be lying if I didn't say that more Elena content might change that. Also Im hoping Nyx finds a way to incorporate Alexis into the game in a non-romantic way in a future update

 

[Dessolos]

Dessolos has accidentally caused a waifu war that I'm staying out of lolz.

While Erryn is still my waifu of choice, Id be lying if I didn't say that more Elena content might change that. Also Im hoping Nyx finds a way to incorporate Alexis into the game in a non-romantic way in a future update

I just was simping with my obession of head pats , hand holding and nose boops cause bored . While Erynn is my favorite and at the top of my top 10 LI list. I love Alexis , Elena and Nikki alot as well. To be honest I don't dislike any of them even Layla who is in the friendzone for me. While that's kind of a lie I do hate Tori and not really into Iris after the flashback.

 

[Jarulf]

Dessolos has accidentally caused a waifu war that I'm staying out of lolz.

While Erryn is still my waifu of choice, Id be lying if I didn't say that more Elena content might change that. Also Im hoping Nyx finds a way to incorporate Alexis into the game in a non-romantic way in a future update

I basically only post in this thread to show my devotion to Layla, it seems.
What I really want is a two for one deal with Elena, and guest appearances by Valeria.
I'll settle for the throuple though.

 

[Elduriel]

I basically only post in this thread to show my devotion to Layla, it seems.
What I really want is a two for one deal with Elena, and guest appearances by Valeria.
I'll settle for the throuple though.

I like Layla just fine, wish we had more content with her. But I kinda wish that for all the LIs

 

[cxx]

Is there an android version?

yes.

 

[Kond]

Since there was some talking about it;
I'm a Valeria fan, and i would compare her situation with Daryl from the tv series The Walking Dead, he's a tv series original character that didn't exist on the comics and made quite of a success, i think that maybe, at first, the writers had not much on mind for him and who knows, maybe they would kill him after a few seasons, or on the first season...but since he made such success with the fanbase nowadays he has a tv series centered on his character. With Valeria could be kind of the same thing, maybe at first Nyx had a pre determined fate for her, maybe she would use her for a specific purpose and get rid of her just after, but since the player base liked her so much (not saying that everyone likes her or that shes the most liked one) and she got a good development, maybe Nyx is at least re-thinking it and may use other character for this purpose if it exists...it's her game, we will know whats gonna happen with Val in due time, but in my personal opinion would be a waste to waste her character since its hard to create one that people actually likes and makes a connection with...many games fail due the players not creating a link with the characters.
From my part, even with Val not having the official L.I status i like to think that there's nothing set on stone yet.

 

[Guyin Cognito]

I played a game a LONG time ago (pre-covid, at least) that was called Intertwined, but it was basically just a "stay-at-home and build relationships with your mom and sister" kind of game. My memory is that just about the point where you get the sister to accept that what's happening is an actual relationship, the game "ends" with a promise of a sequel coming. I figured I'd wait a while ... then I forgot about it. Oops?

I thought for a while that there were more than one game with that same title, but now this is the only one I see. Is this in any way related to that old game?

 

[Elduriel]

I played a game a LONG time ago (pre-covid, at least) that was called Intertwined, but it was basically just a "stay-at-home and build relationships with your mom and sister" kind of game. My memory is that just about the point where you get the sister to accept that what's happening is an actual relationship, the game "ends" with a promise of a sequel coming. I figured I'd wait a while ... then I forgot about it. Oops?

I thought for a while that there were more than one game with that same title, but now this is the only one I see. Is this in any way related to that old game?

it's not, different games