VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[Elduriel]

while your at it add me to that list

I got you bud

 

[Kaskaze]

while your at it add me to that list


Don't want to say who on this thread , but I was talking to dev and Nyx wouldn't even let them show Intertwined on the tv screen or something like that as a small cameo and they were a fan of the game. So I think not just Greedy but Nyx is also probably either not very friendly or hard to work with

Asshole, you know what to do

 

[Kaskaze]

I mean, on one hand I get why Nyx is annoyed. But looking at how many people are on this forum, I feel like she’d pull in way more fans if somebody dropped pics in here. Somebody’s gonna see a cool render or spot their character and be like, ‘Yo, that’s mine!’ — and next thing you know they’re want sub to her Patreon

 

[Justaphase]

I mean, on one hand I get why Nyx is annoyed. But looking at how many people are on this forum, I feel like she’d pull in way more fans if somebody dropped pics in here. Somebody’s gonna see a cool render or spot their character and be like, ‘Yo, that’s mine!’ — and next thing you know they’re want sub to her Patreon

It's being shortsighted, if you can't understand that player engagement is a good thing. Like I said most developers will include preview pictures with their update logs and they are available to even supporters at the lowest tier. Not try and sell them separately like they are special renders or something.
At least I won't waste my money anymore on these honestly rather underwhelming preview pictures. So thanks for that I guess.

 

[anonnyscouse]

Don't want to say who on this thread , but I was talking to dev and Nyx wouldn't even let them show Intertwined on the tv screen or something like that as a small cameo and they were a fan of the game.

Does the dev's name have four letters?

 

[LSC82]

Is there any Erynn time planned for next epsiode? I'm asking cause I don't remember seeing any hints or anything about it in dev logs or some of the preview pics that mads there way here. And with the blackmail plot moving forward, shouldn't we actually spend time with the titular character of the plot, or we going to just solve it all in like next update in one day, easy peasy.

We'll probably spend some time with Erynn. It looked like she was dropping by in the morning. Later, we'll also be visiting the MSU, so I'm betting we'll spend some time with her.

This update will have 2 days, Nyx is still on the first one, hasn't started work on day 2 yet, so maybe day 2 is the "Erynn day".
I like her chances of being heavily featured in this episode, she was (mostly)absent of episode 14, and like you say with the blackmail being pushed ahead, she needs to be in it.

She's 100% guaranteed to show up early in day 1, to wake up the MC(as she often does).
Maybe she'll be present in the MSU scene, but from previews (previews Justaphase patreon account died to bring us), it's mostly about Alexis.
There's also a mystery scene to end the day, is it the Monroe BBQ? Is it something else? She could show up here too.

There's also a John scene that is kinda "Erynn by proxy", i'm sure she will be discussed given what John just learned.

And like i said there's the entire day 2.

One or the other or both. I got one account blocked by Nyx on Patreon for sharing preview pictures on here. She's greedy so likes to sell preview pictures, unless you're a paid supporter over $10 per month. Then doesn't like you sharing what you've bought with your own money.
She knows that most of her supporters have come from these forums, but yet doesn't like people getting even a look at the next episode without paying for it.
Many developers will post their preview pictures for all paid members, even the lowest tier. They will usually just include some with development/progress updates. They have the intellect to know that it drives engagement and interest which is overall good for the game.
Meh whatever.

Damn... paywalled previews is really uncommon for most devs.
Previews can drive engagement, can make passersby aware of her game...
And might encourage someone staying signed to see them... without previews there's little incentive for someone to have a cheap account constantly supporting her.

And then there's the watching everything that is going on aspect, despite the fact that, officially, she washed her hands of this place.

Don't want to say who on this thread , but I was talking to dev and Nyx wouldn't even let them show Intertwined on the tv screen or something like that as a small cameo and they were a fan of the game. So I think not just Greedy but Nyx is also probably either not very friendly or hard to work with

Does the dev's name have four letters?

She allowed U4IA to feature Valeria... i wonder who is this dev that got shown the door...

 

[anonnyscouse]

She allowed U4IA to feature Valeria... i wonder who is this dev that got shown the door...

The reference to showing the cameo on a TV screen leads me to think I might know the game, and if I'm right it might actually be a bit of insecurity from Nyx because in the cameos in that game the dev sometimes actually improves the visuals of the game he cameos. For example he gives The Headmaster a cameo and I checked it out because of it and the version in the cameo would have been much better than the actual game visually.

As you say the fact she allowed a character to physically appear in a different game does make it strange that she wouldn't allow the game to have a cameo elsewhere. Either she sees Drifty as big enough to justify it, and the other dev she considers inferior so doesn't see a benefit for her in it, or there's insecurity involved.

 

[Justaphase]

This update will have 2 days, Nyx is still on the first one, hasn't started work on day 2 yet, maybe day 2 is the "Erynn day".
I like her chances of being heavily featured in this episode, she was (mostly)absent of episode 14, and like you say with the blackmail being pushed ahead, she needs to be in it.

She's 100% guaranteed to show up early in day 1, to wake up the MC(as she often does).
Maybe she'll be present in the MSU scene, but from previews (previews Justaphase patreon account died to bring us), it's mostly about Alexis.
There's also a mystery scene to end the day, is it the Monroe BBQ? Is it something else? She could show up here too.

There's also a John scene that is kinda "Erynn by proxy", i'm sure she will be discussed given what John just learned.

And like i said there's the entire day 2.


Damn... paywalled previews is really uncommon for most devs.
Previews can drive engagement, can make passersby aware of her game...
And might encourage someone staying signed to see them... without previews there's little incentive for someone to have a cheap account constantly supporting her.

And then there's the watching everything that is going on aspect, despite the fact that, officially, she washed her hands of this place.


She allowed U4IA to feature Valeria... i wonder who is this dev that got shown the door...

I wouldn't be surprised if we are made to choose between Val and Erynn again in Day 2. Closing the door on one or the other's romantic path if you also rejected them for the beach date.
Erynn comes over and is like "I really want us to spend the evening together" *nudge nudge, wink wink* and the MC is like fucking hell it's my emo date with Val tonight. Which has been planned for a while.

It's only one of my Patreon accounts but like I said it's still petty and annoying. I won't be posting any more preview pictures though, because I won't be giving her any more money.

Please fix the script though. It's getting harder and harder to justify things such as the MC's age, because of the mess with the Iris sex scene. Even the overview here says the MC is 18 and the Iris scene was 2 years before. Which then messes up the confession scene.

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So what is it? 5 years and he's 18 so he was 16 in the Iris flashback? Or was he older in the confession or has been gone longer than 5 years?
I would be careful if I were Nyx because Patreon is nuking some pretty big accounts lately, even bigger than yours, just ask Ocean. Underage content is very much against Patreon's guidelines. Just some food for thought.

 

[TheRealNyx]

Okay, this is getting ridiculous and I can't believe I have to create an account for this.

Even though due to popular believe, no I haven't been on this forum since I left, I don't even know how long it's been since. But yes, they are people here who share stuff with me and you'd be surprised if I'd tell you the names.

First of all, if it doesn't come directly from me, you can be sure that the stuff said is a lie or my words twisted in a way. If you have questions, contact me directly if you want real answers.

About the dev that wasn't allowed to use screenshots of Intertwined. Not true. I actually allowed it. I said no at first because I didn't know the dev and the game so I asked that person to introduce themself first so I can check out what kind of game they are creating. Because I don't want Intertwined or myself associated with something I don't agree with. After that I asked which pictures they want to use so I can see if it's okay. They ignored me from that point on and didn't contact me again.

They are other devs and games which asked to use screenshots from Intertwined and I allowed it every time!

Next topic:

"Didn't even have the decency to message me and ask me to stop posting them or remove them."

I knew for some time that you were posting the preview pictures. But the person "ratting" you out mentioned the first time that you said it was a one time thing because you liked the pictures of Erynn and you'd normally don't do that. So I let it slide. Then I heard that you kept on doing it. Again, I let it slide, giving you another chance. But then again and again... At the end, I think I gave you plenty of chances and you didn't honour your word!
So, right back at you. You didn't even have the decency of apologising to something I asked not to do because it's not fair towards the supporters who pay for it.

There are probably lots of other things but I don't want to read through hundreds of pages.

If you have questions, ask them now because I will delete this account again.

 

[Justaphase]

Okay, this is getting ridiculous and I can't believe I have to create an account for this.

Even though due to popular believe, no I haven't been on this forum since I left, I don't even know how long it's been since. But yes, they are people here who share stuff with me and you'd be surprised if I'd tell you the names.

First of all, if it doesn't come directly from me, you can be sure that the stuff said is a lie or my words twisted in a way. If you have questions, contact me directly if you want real answers.

About the dev that wasn't allowed to use screenshots of Intertwined. Not true. I actually allowed it. I said no at first because I didn't know the dev and the game so I asked that person to introduce themself first so I can check out what kind of game they are creating. Because I don't want Intertwined or myself associated with something I don't agree with. After that I asked which pictures they want to use so I can see if it's okay. They ignored me from that point on and didn't contact me again.

They are other devs and games which asked to use screenshots from Intertwined and I allowed it every time!

Next topic:

"Didn't even have the decency to message me and ask me to stop posting them or remove them."

I knew for some time that you were posting the preview pictures. But the person "ratting" you out mentioned the first time that you said it was a one time thing because you liked the pictures of Erynn and you'd normally don't do that. So I let it slide. Then I heard that you kept on doing it. Again, I let it slide, giving you another chance. But then again and again... At the end, I think I gave you plenty of chances and you didn't honour your word!
So, right back at you. You didn't even have the decency of apologising to something I asked not to do because it's not fair towards the supporters who pay for it.

There are probably lots of other things but I don't want to read through hundreds of pages.

If you have questions, ask them now because I will delete this account again.

First of all I didn't post the pictures of Erynn, that was someone else. You have never asked me to not post the preview pictures, if you had then I would not have posted them. Secondly I was simply trying to gain interest and engagement for your game, I was not seeking to profit or gain anything from it myself.
You say that it's not fair on people who pay for it, well didn't I pay for it? Wasn't I a paying supporter? For the most part I may not do monthly support but I bought many preview pictures and would also "buy" an update upon release at the highest tier. Did you think that I deserved even a single message or warning before blocking me?

 

[TheRealNyx]

First of all I didn't post the pictures of Erynn, that was someone else. You have never asked me to not post the preview pictures, if you had then I would not have posted them. Secondly I was simply trying to gain interest and engagement for your game, I was not seeking to profit or gain anything from it myself.
You say that it's not fair on people who pay for it, well didn't I pay for it? Wasn't I a paying supporter? Did you think that I deserved even a single message or warning before blocking me?

I asked everyone to not post the preview pictures, in a few posts actually. I'm not going to ask every time I post something.
Sure, I'll admit that I should've contacted you first and talk about it. But I was angry at that point and I can have a temper, people know that. But I also have no problem apologising if I need to. So, here it is. I'm sorry.

 

[Justaphase]

I asked everyone to not post the preview pictures, in a few posts actually. I'm not going to ask every time I post something.
Sure, I'll admit that I should've contacted you first and talk about it. But I was angry at that point and I can have a temper, people know that. But I also have no problem apologising if I need to. So, here it is. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry also, I will remove any preview pictures that I posted here and will post no more of them. I've always loved Intertwined and the world that you've created. I can also have a temper, we all can. Thank you for your time.

 

[TheRealNyx]

I'm sorry also, I will remove any preview pictures that I posted here and will post no more of them. I've always loved Intertwined and the world that you've created. I can also have a temper, we all can. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. I've unblocked you!

This is directed towards everyone:
It's that simple. Seriously, if people have questions about me/the game, ask me directly, either on patreon, discord, whatever...
I'm happy to clear up all those misconceptions, decisions I make/had to make and so on...

 

[LSC82]

I wouldn't be surprised if we are made to choose between Val and Erynn again in Day 2. Closing the door on one or the other's romantic path if you also rejected them for the beach date.
Erynn comes over and is like "I really want us to spend the evening together" *nudge nudge, wink wink* and the MC is like fucking hell it's my emo date with Val tonight. Which has been planned for a while.

It's only one of my Patreon accounts but like I said it's still petty and annoying. I won't be posting any more preview pictures though, because I won't be giving her any more money.

Here's an idea, instead of creeping around here, go fix the damn script. It's getting harder and harder to justify things such as the MC's age, because of the mess with the Iris sex scene. Even the overview here says the MC is 18 and the Iris scene was 2 years before. Which then messes up the confession scene.

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So what is it? 5 years and he's 18 so he was 16 in the Iris flashback? Or was he older in the confession or has been gone longer than 5 years?
I would be careful if I were Nyx because Patreon is nuking some pretty big accounts lately, even bigger than yours, just ask Ocean. Underage content is very much against Patreon's guidelines. Just some food for thought.

Patreon sure got a lot tighter with the rules recently, they aren't looking the other way anymore... it doesn't seem wise to play fast and loose with rules right now.

TheRealNyx i don't know how interested you are on my advice, but i think the best solution would be to fade black on the Iris sex scenes(inside the flashback).
I know it sucks, the flashback was quite nice and enjoyable, you probably like how it plays out currently as well, but it's the best of a bad situation IMO.
It's still a nice intro of Iris as a character and means you don't have to mess with the original ages for this one scene.

Criticisms and all, i'm big fan btw, keep up the good work

 

[Kaskaze]

Patreon sure got a lot tighter with the rules recently, they aren't looking the other way anymore... it doesn't seem wise to play fast and loose with rules right now.

TheRealNyx i don't know how interested you are on my advice, but i think the best solution would be to fade black on the Iris sex scenes(inside the flashback).
I know it sucks, the flashback was quite nice and enjoyable, but it's the best of a bad situation IMO, it's still a nice intro of Iris as a character and means you don't have to mess with the original ages for this one scene.

Criticisms and all, i'm big fan btw, keep up the good work

What if we just keep it quiet — don’t mention the MC’s age or anyone else’s at all?
In Star Wars it’s ‘A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…’ — so we’d keep it in that kind of style too.

 

[TheRealNyx]

Patreon sure got a lot tighter with the rules recently, they aren't looking the other way anymore... it doesn't seem wise to play fast and loose with rules right now.

TheRealNyx i don't know how interested you are on my advice, but i think the best solution would be to fade black on the Iris sex scenes(inside the flashback).
I know it sucks, the flashback was quite nice and enjoyable, you probably like how it plays out currently as well, but it's the best of a bad situation IMO.
It's still a nice intro of Iris as a character and means you don't have to mess with the original ages for this one scene.

Criticisms and all, i'm big fan btw, keep up the good work

The official info about the game changed a long time ago. It says MC is a young adult (his age isn't specified anymore), then the time he was away also changed to an uncertain time but more than 5 years.
In the game, MC mentions he is 18 before he meets Iris. Also the time Iris and MC are together has been changed and I might make a slight adjustment in the script since I'm redoing it anyway. I'm not gonna say how long they've been together, just saying it has been a while. so it's up to the reader to interpret however they like.
I was already in contact with Patreon, they know about the scene, they played the scene and told me it's fine and there's no need to change anything. No rules are being broken.

 

[LSC82]

What if we just keep it quiet — don’t mention the MC’s age or anyone else’s at all?

Honestly, it's still hard, age difference between MC and Erynn is a central point of the game's intro, no avoiding that.
And then there's the expected age of HS students and moving 2 years back.

Nyx is in charge of that of course, i don't make any calls, just suggestions.

 

[Kaskaze]

The official info about the game changed a long time ago. It says MC is a young adult (his age isn't specified anymore), then the time he was away also changed to an uncertain time but more than 5 years.
In the game, MC mentions he is 18 before he meets Iris. Also the time Iris and MC are together has been changed and I might make a slight adjustment in the script since I'm redoing it anyway.
I was already in contact with Patreon, they know about the scene, they played the scene and told me it's fine and there's no need to change anything. No rules are being broken.

Since you’re here, let me ask you something. I had this idea — I asked AI to make me a shirt based on a full shot of Nikki , and this is what I got. If I went ahead and made a shirt like that, would you have any problem with it?

 

[TheRealNyx]

Since you’re here, let me ask you something. I had this idea — I asked AI to make me a shirt based on a full shot of Nikki , and this is what I got. If I went ahead and made a shirt like that, would you have any problem with it?
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I have no issue with that. I myself made me a t-shirt with a character on it. I know, it's weird.

But if you get other people asking you for t-shirts, I want a share

 

[CodyOn]

The official info about the game changed a long time ago. It says MC is a young adult (his age isn't specified anymore), then the time he was away also changed to an uncertain time but more than 5 years.
In the game, MC mentions he is 18 before he meets Iris. Also the time Iris and MC are together has been changed and I might make a slight adjustment in the script since I'm redoing it anyway. I'm not gonna say how long they've been together, just saying it has been a while. so it's up to the reader to interpret however they like.
I was already in contact with Patreon, they know about the scene, they played the scene and told me it's fine and there's no need to change anything. No rules are being broken.

Well, if the problem is solved, that's all I want to know.
Great job Nyx.