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so far the story is kinda good minus the normal tropes on avns like just ask for help or tell somebody whats going on and that problem will be resolve instead of spinning around on it!.
after 14 episodes i was expecting more from the no helping Erynn route , the club encounter i would've like for Mc to look at her , said nothing and just turn around and go back to Layla and Elena .
or the first time Erynn got into Mcs room i was waiting for the Mc to say something like what are you doing here?, next time wait for me in the living room.
like i said i was expecting a little bit more coldness coming from the Mc's towards Erynn at the beginning
even after i choose to argue with Erynn and left her in the park after she stood you up and not helping her when Ethan is with her in the alley , there was no blow back towards the Mc , i was waiting for a complete good ol verbal fight between Erynn and the Mc but all i got was dirty looks from Erynn and Alexis .
now all is left is the letter , i'd decided to trow the letter away , hoping for Erynn to someway / somehow find it in the trash and noticing that you never read it.

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so far the story is kinda good minus the normal tropes on avns like just ask for help or tell somebody whats going on and that problem will be resolve instead of spinning around on it!.
after 14 episodes i was expecting more from the no helping Erynn route , the club encounter i would've like for Mc to look at her , said nothing and just turn around and go back to Layla and Elena .
or the first time Erynn got into Mcs room i was waiting for the Mc to say something like what are you doing here?, next time wait for me in the living room.
like i said i was expecting a little bit more coldness coming from the Mc's towards Erynn at the beginning
even after i choose to argue with Erynn and left her in the park after she stood you up and not helping her when Ethan is with her in the alley , there was no blow back towards the Mc , i was waiting for a complete good ol verbal fight between Erynn and the Mc but all i got was dirty looks from Erynn and Alexis .
now all is left is the letter , i'd decided to trow the letter away , hoping for Erynn to someway / somehow find it in the trash and noticing that you never read it.

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Did you completely miss or ignore the fact that the flashback confession scene and Erynn laughing was a total misunderstanding? Or are you holding a grudge just for the sake of it?
There's no need to not at least be friends with Erynn, even if you have no interest in her romatically.
Also it takes a special kind of asshole MC to walk away when you see a girl being assaulted, I can never walk away and ignore that.
Honestly I hope that Nyx has a special kind of horrible ending for a player and an MC who doesn't help Erynn. Some karma would be nice to see. The MC needs help and noone is there for him and he dies horribly.
 

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yea, not sure what Erynn did to get treated that way in the first place. she got something sprung on her, didn't answer fast enough/ defended MC and for that crime she got ignored for years. Not sure what other penance Erynn's supposed to pay at this point
 
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yea, not sure what Erynn did to get treated that way in the first place. she got something sprung on her, didn't answer fast enough/ defended MC and for that crime she got ignored for years. Not sure what other penance Erynn's supposed to pay at this point
Erynn didn't deserve it at all, it's surprising she's as happy to see the MC as she is when he returns. Can't really see why you wouldn't forgive her and help her even if not interested in her path, unless you're specifically choosing to play as a dick.

The MC does seem to have a recurring issue with just running away rather than having a difficult grown up discussion. He runs away from Erynn, runs away from Andres rather than talking after they've calmed down, runs away from Emily when he finds her with Mel rather than talking to her. Can't remember if he ever breaks up with Iris or if he just leaves... He was only a kid with the Erynn one but it's still not a great approach, although I guess it creates drama!
 
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The MC does seem to have a recurring issue with just running away rather than having a difficult grown up discussion. He runs away from Erynn, runs away from Andres rather than talking after they've calmed down, runs away from Emily when he finds her with Mel rather than talking to her. Can't remember if he ever breaks up with Iris or if he just leaves... He was only a kid with the Erynn one but it's still not a great approach, although I guess it creates drama!
i'd partially agree with you , does he has a problem running away from problems yes! but we gotta analyze the circumstances of each individual argument .

with Erynn they both were kinda stupid , because they have plenty of time to settle that issue , let's remember that the Mc was in Madison springs for about a scholar year before being sent to live with Andres.
and when Mc comeback to live with Emily , the Mc should be allowed to be apathetic or indifferent towards Erynn because 5 years has gone by and you could've grow out of that friendship or simply just moved on !.

with Andres we have several issues going on at once and all those mixed up in that moment and made the conversation scale up to a full blown argument ending with the Mc getting punched in the face.
started with Andres finding out Mc sleeping with Nikki and that quickly prompted the Mc to ask Andres about him being unfaithful to Haley just before the wedding and that brought the Andres cheating to Emily talk and the Andres is not the father talk ending with Andres fisically assaulting the Mc.
on this occasion the Mc was right to go back home because the argument with Andre detonated a full nuclear blast in the house and emotions would've been running high and not settle down for a couple of days.

with Emily ..... the Mc has no excuse ! , he should've go back home and locked himself in his room and take a good nap and just come out after he calmed down , thou Emily just blurting out Andres is no your father was not ideal either with that she only acomplished to put more fuel into the fire.

with Iris there was no argument or running away from any situation , she just moved to live on another city because John new job and yes! Iris made the joke about Mc technically being unfaithful because they never broke up their relationship.
 

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i'd partially agree with you , does he has a problem running away from problems yes! but we gotta analyze the circumstances of each individual argument .

with Erynn they both were kinda stupid , because they have plenty of time to settle that issue , let's remember that the Mc was in Madison springs for about a scholar year before being sent to live with Andres.
and when Mc comeback to live with Emily , the Mc should be allowed to be apathetic or indifferent towards Erynn because 5 years has gone by and you could've grow out of that friendship or simply just moved on !.

with Andres we have several issues going on at once and all those mixed up in that moment and made the conversation scale up to a full blown argument ending with the Mc getting punched in the face.
started with Andres finding out Mc sleeping with Nikki and that quickly prompted the Mc to ask Andres about him being unfaithful to Haley just before the wedding and that brought the Andres cheating to Emily talk and the Andres is not the father talk ending with Andres fisically assaulting the Mc.
on this occasion the Mc was right to go back home because the argument with Andre detonated a full nuclear blast in the house and emotions would've been running high and not settle down for a couple of days.

with Emily ..... the Mc has no excuse ! , he should've go back home and locked himself in his room and take a good nap and just come out after he calmed down , thou Emily just blurting out Andres is no your father was not ideal either with that she only acomplished to put more fuel into the fire.

with Iris there was no argument or running away from any situation , she just moved to live on another city because John new job and yes! Iris made the joke about Mc technically being unfaithful because they never broke up their relationship.
It's been a long time since I played through some of this stuff, so sorry if I have it a little wrong on some of the details. Sort of looking forwards to replaying the early game when the new update comes to remind myself...

I really don't think Erynn does anything stupid, apart from not noticing that Ethan is toxic much earlier and ditching him. There's a misunderstanding that she isn't even aware of because the MC runs away and doesn't explain it. I can't remember the exact time line, but even if he doesn't literally leave town immediately he doesn't talk to her about it or explain why he's ghosting her. She tries and tries to talk to him and he just blanks her. He's allowed to have moved on, but he was still completely in the wrong in that situation.

Andres depends a little on your path, if you're not together with Nikki or Cara it's a bit different. But either way, the man looked after you as a father for years and his life is falling apart. Sure, it's mostly his fault and of course he shouldn't punch you, but the adult thing would still be to talk about it. At the very least call him after a few days once everyone has calmed down a little! Emily blurting out about his father wasn't great timing, but again, she's your mum. Don't just run away with your fingers in your ears like a child!

I can't remember Iris exactly. I know she jokes about it, but she doesn't seem that bothered so I assume they did discuss him leaving town 'off camera'. I guess that one is a bit unfair!
 
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let's remember that the Mc was in Madison springs for about a scholar year before being sent to live with Andres.
Not true. I think you need to replay and this time give Erynn a chance. Everything in game says that it was only a few weeks from the confession to the MC going to stay with Andres, certainly not a year.
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Not true. I think you need to replay and this time give Erynn a chance. Everything in game says that it was only a few weeks from the confession to the MC going to stay with Andres, certainly not a year.
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I know this aint the point of the scene, but Erynn is a model with some money, she could've at least found a dress that covered her nips better.
Also, Emilty gets worse with each replay. Ships him off to his father when he becomes a pain in the ass. As soon as he gets angry at her for something she did, she vilifies his "father."
 
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I know this aint the point of the scene, but Erynn is a model with some money, she could've at least found a dress that covered her nips better.
Also, Emilty gets worse with each replay. Ships him off to his father when he becomes a pain in the ass. As soon as he gets angry at her for something she did, she vilifies his "father."
Now why would she go and do a silly thing like that? ;) She should wear even more revealing stuff, just saying. :ROFLMAO:

In fairness to Emily it was only supposed to be a week during spring break and she was hoping that it would help the MC by spending some time away. Not knowing that he wouldn't want to come back and it would turn into 5+ years.
Andres also did a fair bit of villianizing himself or rather Nyx did I guess with the whole punching the MC thing after being confronted, which was the thing that ultimately ruined their relationship.
 

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Now why would she go and do a silly thing like that? ;) She should wear even more revealing stuff, just saying. :ROFLMAO:

In fairness to Emily it was only supposed to be a week during spring break and she was hoping that it would help the MC by spending some time away. Not knowing that he wouldn't want to come back and it would turn into 5+ years.
Andres also did a fair bit of villianizing himself or rather Nyx did I guess with the whole punching the MC thing after being confronted, which was the thing that ultimately ruined their relationship.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Emily for the breakdown in their relationship. Lord knows there were enough factors to doom that relationship even if Emily would've said nothing. I'm just saying that instead of defending herself, her first move was basically to villainize Andres in an attempt to stop him from moving back.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming Emily for the breakdown in their relationship. Lord knows there were enough factors to doom that relationship even if Emily would've said nothing. I'm just saying that instead of defending herself, her first move was basically to villainize Andres in an attempt to stop him from moving back.
She's also pretty hard on herself, especially when explaining all that happened with Santi and Andres. She was only a kid herself.
I just can't help myself but be sweet and comforting to Emily. I always am in my runs. Horrible (and unrealistic you could say) to think of how lonely she must have been all of these years. In most cases he would have come back to a new surprise step dad. :ROFLMAO:
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She's also pretty hard on herself, especially when explaining all that happened with Santi and Andres. She was only a kid herself.
I just can't help myself but be sweet and comforting to Emily. I always am in my runs. Horrible (and unrealistic you could say) to think of how lonely she must have been all of these years. In most cases he would have come back to a new surprise step dad. :ROFLMAO:
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more important question is when can we fuck her?
 
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