VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[Dr.TSoni]

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer though.

In Spanish she is much more intelligent XD

 

[Jarulf]

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In Spanish she is much more intelligent XD

So basically, I need to learn Spanish. I'm doomed to fail though, I can't roll my 'Rs'

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

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In Spanish she is much more intelligent XD

Who is Linda?

 

[Drevok]

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Why is Layla so infamous for being dumb? What has she said or done that proves that she's dumb? Because I don't remember. Besides being bad at speaking Spanish, which is fair because learning a foreign language is hard and English and Spanish are super different (I speak both languages so I should know).

I mean, a little bit spoiled, sheltered and naive? Sure, but that will most likely change when she moves out to college and spends awhile on her own dealing with things by herself.

 

[Dr.TSoni]

Why is Layla so infamous for being dumb? What has she said or done that proves that she's dumb? Because I don't remember. Besides being bad at speaking Spanish, which is fair because learning a foreign language is hard and English and Spanish are super different (I speak both languages so I should know).

I mean, a little bit spoiled, sheltered and naive? Sure, but that will most likely change when she moves out to college and spends awhile on her own dealing with things by herself.

It's now more of a meme than a real "criticism" of Layla.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

People pick on layla cuz she's the fat one friggin bullies

 

[Drevok]

It's now more of a meme than a real "criticism" of Layla.
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But Valeria says it as well. Maybe Nyx added that because the community has been saying it for years?

 

[Dr.TSoni]

People pick on layla cuz she's the fat one friggin bullies

But Valeria says it as well. Maybe Nyx added that because the community has been saying it for years?

I think it's more the opposite.
MC and Elena make fun of her, and the community has adopted the meme.

 

[Drevok]

People pick on layla cuz she's the fat one friggin bullies

 

[Nikko_]

From what I've read this VN is being retconned cause of Patreon?! Is it just cause of Patreon? If that is the case, I believe there is an easy fix: The author continues with a new season (S2).
- Season 1 gets retconned by just changing the text. You increase everybody's age, and you call the school a college. Done, you are respecting Patreon's rules. Or you just take out the actual sex scenes that chronologically precede the flight back of the MC (at the start of the game).
- Season 2 gets a questionary to continue. And it doesn't use the words school, nor college. Nor it revisits the "early adventures of the MC". And the age does not need to be directly addressed at this stage of the game. Patreon gets the stupid retcon of S1; but players with the OG Season1 can just jump into the S2 without having to replay the retconned version.

Actually, I sort of understand Patreon's logic. But so far into the game forcing players to replay a retcon is stupid. It is just too much. The way the dynamics are changed is too much: young athletes being scouted part, Erynn being in college while the MC is in HighSchool, the personalities and different life routines cause of it, etc. Nothing fits. A S2 works, no carry-over.

 

[Tremonia]

From what I've read this VN is being retconned cause of Patreon?!

No, it's not. What are you talking about?

 

[jobu123]

No, it's not. What are you talking about?

probably that it was retconned because MC and Iris would have underage sex scenes otherwise

 

[adanu]

Goddamn, check out the incel vibes on this guy.

How about you address the actual arguments instead of trying to ad hominem if you want to be taken seriously.

 

[Tremonia]

probably that it was retconned because MC and Iris would have underage sex scenes otherwise

But Patreon didn't retconned it.

 

[SearingFive]

Well, from what i've read, the dev is female, so it makes perfect sense. She writes it from a modern women's lens, and they can do no wrong and arent accountable for anything. I think its also why most women are portrayed as good or made a mistake, but the MC is forced into many scumbag choices or situations where he always end up being the asshole because of no choice given.

As for what you said, i agree with Eryn. She laughed at the MC, because yes, a 16y girl getting proposed by a 13y boy is ridiculous. Instead of just reject him politely, she does what modern women do, humiliate men. Also, the whole rando boyfriend thing. Its easy enough to just say she wanted to try sex, it is allowed, and she didnt like it because the guy hurt her and was a dick and she dumped him and now is wary of men and sex, problem solved. Lets be honest, she would not have waited for the MC for 4-5 years for him to grow to plow her and take her V card. By what we saw, they were friends and thats kinda it. She never showed any sexual intentions towards him. She even reveals the first time she touched herself to him was at the pool after he came back.

As for Alexis, its just another drama BS. she said Eryn liked the MC but never showed it or intend on it, just said it. She saw the grown MC in the plane, found him hot and wanted him, and thats it. You snooze you loose. I didnt like Alexis because the reason she's in the game is because the dev needed a slutty character to have early sex scenes with, as you cant rely on randos and dreams long term in a relationship drama type game, but you also need sex scenes to have a payer-base. And i dont like as much the slutty gives sex right away girl types.

As for the mom, i completely agree, that is BS. She was a hoe and a cheater, but the dev tries everything and bends backwards to make her the victim. She deserves no sympathy. That Andres dude should've dipped right away after she ignored his boundaries. You dont meet and keep comunicating with your ex, like ever, unless kids custody. Massive red flag, and proven right as she indeed cheat.

As for Andres, i feel like with what it seems most males characters in this game, she wrote him with extra asshole included, as if extra asshole > asshole, so is disregarded instead of both being bad. He HAD to be with her as revenge on Santiago stealing his girl, he HAD to ALSO be a cheater on Nikki and Cano's mom. Just look at the black dude, the one with Tori, hes protrayed as a dick and a womanizer that screws everything that moves. Zach becomes that rapey vibes pervert with no class. The MC himself as little agency on most choice to not be somewhat bad. The only male character in this game that seems fine is the MC friend in that other city.

I just think the game is very influenced by the devs worldview where man bad and need to be chivalrous to get girls, but womeen are modern and can do whatever they want risk free.

Such a long ass rant, sheesh.

 

[VNEXE]

Well, from what i've read, the dev is female, so it makes perfect sense. She writes it from a modern women's lens, and they can do no wrong and arent accountable for anything. I think its also why most women are portrayed as good or made a mistake, but the MC is forced into many scumbag choices or situations where he always end up being the asshole because of no choice given.

As for what you said, i agree with Eryn. She laughed at the MC, because yes, a 16y girl getting proposed by a 13y boy is ridiculous. Instead of just reject him politely, she does what modern women do, humiliate men. Also, the whole rando boyfriend thing. Its easy enough to just say she wanted to try sex, it is allowed, and she didnt like it because the guy hurt her and was a dick and she dumped him and now is wary of men and sex, problem solved. Lets be honest, she would not have waited for the MC for 4-5 years for him to grow to plow her and take her V card. By what we saw, they were friends and thats kinda it. She never showed any sexual intentions towards him. She even reveals the first time she touched herself to him was at the pool after he came back.

As for Alexis, its just another drama BS. she said Eryn liked the MC but never showed it or intend on it, just said it. She saw the grown MC in the plane, found him hot and wanted him, and thats it. You snooze you loose. I didnt like Alexis because the reason she's in the game is because the dev needed a slutty character to have early sex scenes with, as you cant rely on randos and dreams long term in a relationship drama type game, but you also need sex scenes to have a payer-base. And i dont like as much the slutty gives sex right away girl types.

As for the mom, i completely agree, that is BS. She was a hoe and a cheater, but the dev tries everything and bends backwards to make her the victim. She deserves no sympathy. That Andres dude should've dipped right away after she ignored his boundaries. You dont meet and keep comunicating with your ex, like ever, unless kids custody. Massive red flag, and proven right as she indeed cheat.

As for Andres, i feel like with what it seems most males characters in this game, she wrote him with extra asshole included, as if extra asshole > asshole, so is disregarded instead of both being bad. He HAD to be with her as revenge on Santiago stealing his girl, he HAD to ALSO be a cheater on Nikki and Cano's mom. Just look at the black dude, the one with Tori, hes protrayed as a dick and a womanizer that screws everything that moves. Zach becomes that rapey vibes pervert with no class. The MC himself as little agency on most choice to not be somewhat bad. The only male character in this game that seems fine is the MC friend in that other city.

I just think the game is very influenced by the devs worldview where man bad and need to be chivalrous to get girls, but womeen are modern and can do whatever they want risk free.

Well, now we know that most of Alexis haters are incels.

 

[ffive]

But Patreon didn't retconned it.

I imagine some devs would prefer to "clean up" their game before Patreon gets wind of questionable content and bans them, than gamble and wait for that and then try to dig themselves out of the hole.

 

[Tremonia]

I imagine some devs would prefer to "clean up" their game before Patreon gets wind of questionable content and bans them, than gamble and wait for that and then try to dig themselves out of the hole.

Nyx was in contact with Patreon about 3 or 4 times. She changed some things because of the whinings of some idiots, mostly on Reddit. She was just annoyed to discuss the age debate for the 1312th time. Patreon has nothing to do with any changings. If I remember correct she made a statement about it before Ep13.

 

[klas182]

Nyx was in contact with Patreon about 3 or 4 times. She changed some things because of the whinings of some idiots, mostly on Reddit. She was just annoyed to discuss the age debate for the 1312th time. Patreon has nothing to do with any changings. If I remember correct she made a statement about it before Ep13.

Admittedly, arguing with some idiots can be quite tiring, which is why Nyx decided to make these changes.

 

[Dessolos]

Well, now we know that most of Alexis haters are incels.

yup their post tells me they didn't play Alexi's path in full