VN Ren'Py Intertwined [v0.14.1] [Nyx]

[LoGyMW]

Anytime Nyx is given a chance to troll a certain subset of her audience, she will take it, which is how I interpret rendering the John/Emily date. 100% agree we didn't have to see it, I don't really care about it either way but she probably got a kick out of the imagined reactions certain people would have.

This probably is my incest rotten brain talking as i often go for those tags in VN's and i know Nyx said early on that there will be no incest, but i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point. There have been quite a few instances now where Nyx on purpose was making certain innuendos that could take the story in that direction (EP12 end was one of those for instance). Why else does Emily get way more points than almost every other girl in the game? Just for story enrichment and/or trolling those of us who wouldn't mind those scenarios to take place?. Clearly at some point there was at least a desire to make something with that but Nyx decided to take it in a different direction as of late. I just wish we as a player had some choice in the matter if we want her to date John or not because as it stands all those points we gathered towards her have no meaning or impact whatsoever

 

[byaaahh]

This probably is my incest rotten brain talking as i often go for those tags in VN's, but i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point. Why else does Emily get way more points than almost every other girl in the game? Clearly at some point there was at least a desire to make something with that but Nyx decided to take it in a different direction as of late. I just wish we as a player had some choice in the matter if we want her to date John or not because as it stands all those points we gathered towards her have no meaning or impact whatsoever

Emily's points are pretty minimal, I'm sure it's less than 10.

If points were an indication of fucking, when is the Zach path opening?

 

[jadepaladin]

This probably is my incest rotten brain talking as i often go for those tags in VN's, but i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point. Why else does Emily get way more points than almost every other girl in the game? Clearly at some point there was at least a desire to make something with that but Nyx decided to take it in a different direction as of late. I just wish we as a player had some choice in the matter if we want her to date John or not because as it stands all those points we gathered towards her have no meaning or impact whatsoever

The early Emily points were the setup to the bike but we didn't know that for a long time. We don't know where the new Emily points will go yet. The points have always been about doing the non incest thing, being a good son, having playful fun with her, etc.

 

[anonnyscouse]

This probably is my incest rotten brain talking as i often go for those tags in VN's, but i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point. Why else does Emily get way more points than almost every other girl in the game? Clearly at some point there was at least a desire to make something with that but Nyx decided to take it in a different direction as of late. I just wish we as a player had some choice in the matter if we want her to date John or not because as it stands all those points we gathered towards her have no meaning or impact whatsoever

The points for Emily are not for romantic reasons, they are controlling how much trust she gives MC and whether you get a motorbike (which helps with other LIs) is controlled by the Emily RP.

You did get a choice as to whether to encourage Emily to go on a date with John and then you also had a chance to skip Emily telling Melissa what happened on the date. In order to see Emily fucking John you gave her encouragement to date John and you chose not to skip the scene when she's talking to Melissa. That's all on you, not on Nyx.

 

[jadepaladin]

Emily's points are pretty minimal, I'm sure it's less than 10.

If points were an indication of fucking, when is the Zach path opening?

Emily has 24 points, 4 are exclusive to being on a Nikki/Cara route where you go back for the wedding and get into it with Andres. The bike birthday gift requires 13 points.

 

[Tremonia]

i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point.

No, they weren't. Just players seeing things they wanted to see.

 

[byaaahh]

Emily has 24 points, 4 are exclusive to being on a Nikki/Cara route where you go back for the wedding and get into it with Andres. The bike birthday gift requires 13 points.

It's possible to not get the bike? I think that might be the only route I haven't done.

I might have to do a hate-filled run and pick every negative choice.

 

[LoGyMW]

No, they weren't. Just players seeing things they wanted to see.

True but i personally wouldn't mind, IMO Emily is one of the hottest girls in the game. Just another troll Nyx put us through

 

[SteelyDan14]

This probably is my incest rotten brain talking as i often go for those tags in VN's and i know Nyx said early on that there will be no incest, but i wanted Emily for myself and there were some hints in the past for a long time now that it may happen at some point. There have been quite a few instances now where Nyx on purpose was making certain innuendos that could take the story in that direction (EP12 end was one of those for instance). Why else does Emily get way more points than almost every other girl in the game? Just for story enrichment and/or trolling those of us who wouldn't mind those scenarios to take place?. Clearly at some point there was at least a desire to make something with that but Nyx decided to take it in a different direction as of late. I just wish we as a player had some choice in the matter if we want her to date John or not because as it stands all those points we gathered towards her have no meaning or impact whatsoever

It is a bit weird. I mean there are choices that imply the MC could choose to be attracted to his mom. Looking at her in the pool, kissing her on the lips, a few scenes in Mom's bedroom... so I get it. But again, Nyx said early on (and I'm paraphrasing) "no incest ever" and so far she has stuck to that.

 

[LoGyMW]

It is a bit weird. I mean there are choices that imply the MC could choose to be attracted to his mom. Looking at her in the pool, kissing her on the lips, a few scenes in Mom's bedroom... so I get it. But again, Nyx said early on (and I'm paraphrasing) "no incest ever" and so far she has stuck to that.

I mean, i don't mind it, its just interesting how Nyx seemingly loves to troll us for the things some of us may like. I guess it makes for potential drama moments in the story so that's probably her goal in the end

 

[jadepaladin]

It is a bit weird. I mean there are choices that imply the MC could choose to be attracted to his mom. Looking at her in the pool, kissing her on the lips, a few scenes in Mom's bedroom... so I get it. But again, Nyx said early on (and I'm paraphrasing) "no incest ever" and so far she has stuck to that.

Looking at her in the pool costs you Emily points because it goes against what the Emily points are for: rewarding you for having a good mother/son relationship since MC was an ass to her in the past. The kiss on the lips is in reference to an earlier scene where they accidentally kissed and got embarrassed/later laughed about it. The bedroom scene where you see her dressing is some combination Nyx troll/reward, because you have to have max Emily points to see it. Everyone who thought there was going to be incest was just deluding themselves.

 

[byaaahh]

Looking at her in the pool costs you Emily points because it goes against what the Emily points are for: rewarding you for having a good mother/son relationship since MC was an ass to her in the past. The kiss on the lips is in reference to an earlier scene where they accidentally kissed and got embarrassed/later laughed about it. The bedroom scene where you see her dressing is some combination Nyx troll/reward, because you have to have max Emily points to see it. Everyone who thought there was going to be incest was just deluding themselves.

Even the scene where you share her bed on Nikki/Cara route and you wake up with titty in hand, the MC is actively repulsed at the thought.

 

[anonnyscouse]

It is a bit weird. I mean there are choices that imply the MC could choose to be attracted to his mom. Looking at her in the pool, kissing her on the lips, a few scenes in Mom's bedroom... so I get it. But again, Nyx said early on (and I'm paraphrasing) "no incest ever" and so far she has stuck to that.

Those choices always earned negative RP with Emily though. I can see where it comes across as incest baiting but I'm not sure that was Nyx's intention. There was a planned storyline that was abandoned but was due to be triggered in ep 9 where MC would side with Ethan and Zach during their confrontation scene. If you were to ask me for two characters who would stare at their Mom when they were topless and would try and spy on their Mom getting dressed then Zach and Ethan would be top of the list. I think the trigger for MC being on the corruption path would have been refusing to believe Erynn's version of the confession story, having low points with Emily (by being pervy with her), not helping Erynn when she was being abused by Ethan (therefore nuking Erynn and Alexis paths) and maxing points with Zach (nuking the Layla, Elena and Val paths).

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I've said this before, but it's still weird for a non incest game to give you the option to look at your mother's titties and sleep in the same bed as her when you're a grown assed man.

 

[Krytax123]

Valeria and Erryn are my favorites (i like layla too tho) but i have to say at this point the erryn route starts to annoy me too.

I really enjoy their slice of life interactions and general tone and vibe but the "not having sex" at this point feels artificial to me.

I would be fine with it if Erryn would be truely traumatized and somewhat refrain from sexual acts in general for the time being but she went waaaaaaaay too far already for this being a possibility. Shes always teasing and creating intimate and sexual moments between the two.

And she isnt even a virgin which would make dick in pussy such a big deal compared to all the other stuff they did. I think even none lewd interactions with her would be a better and more coherent story than this weird mumbo jumbo were in now and this girl shouldnt blame anyone but herself if the mc (realisticly) would start a relationship with another girl.

And i consider it way more questionable how shes doesnt mind at all when the mc is taking pictures and even filming her without consent/informing her about it as it (should be) way closer related to her trauma. The MC does that to a lesser degree with val too (being pushy about pictures) but of course the girls like it.

Erryn says "give me a little bit more time" but for what exactly? I dont really get it but maybe i just consider sex less of a big deal esp considering what they already did together.

And urgh, mutual masturbation just sucks, wouldnt have needed that scene lol

 

[byaaahh]

Valeria and Erryn are my favorites (i like layla too tho) but i have to say at this point the erryn route starts to annoy me too.

I really enjoy their slice of life interactions and general tone and vibe but the "not having sex" at this point feels artificial to me.

I would be fine with it if Erryn would be truely traumatized and somewhat refrain from sexual acts in general for the time being but she went waaaaaaaay too far already for this being a possibility. Shes always teasing and creating intimate and sexual moments between the two.

And she isnt even a virgin which would make dick in pussy such a big deal compared to all the other stuff they did. I think even none lewd interactions with her would be a better and more coherent story than this weird mumbo jumbo were in now and this girl shouldnt blame anyone but herself if the mc (realisticly) would start a relationship with another girl.

And i consider it way more questionable how shes doesnt mind at all when the mc is taking pictures and even filming her without consent/informing her about it as it (should be) way closer related to her trauma. The MC does that to a lesser degree with val too (being pushy about pictures) but of course the girls like it.

Erryn says "give me a little bit more time" but for what exactly? I dont really get it but maybe i just consider sex less of a big deal esp considering what they already did together.

And urgh, mutual masturbation just sucks, wouldnt have needed that scene lol

How do you feel about Val not being picked up after a traumatic event? She continues to flirt and tease, no signs of any physical intimacy yet.

Erynn's trauma comes from the fact that the last time she had sex, she was unknowingly recorded and the person is still tormenting her. She probably won't feel safe until Ethan is dealt with, as he would have no way of recording her next coitus.

 

[SteelyDan14]

Looking at her in the pool costs you Emily points because it goes against what the Emily points are for: rewarding you for having a good mother/son relationship since MC was an ass to her in the past. The kiss on the lips is in reference to an earlier scene where they accidentally kissed and got embarrassed/later laughed about it. The bedroom scene where you see her dressing is some combination Nyx troll/reward, because you have to have max Emily points to see it. Everyone who thought there was going to be incest was just deluding themselves.

Totally agree, but most players are not aware of when + or - points are awarded. I don't usually look at that until I have played through it a couple of times. So my only point was I can understand why some people thought that.

 

[Krytax123]

How do you feel about Val not being picked up after a traumatic event? She continues to flirt and tease, no signs of any physical intimacy yet.

Erynn's trauma comes from the fact that the last time she had sex, she was unknowingly recorded and the person is still tormenting her. She probably won't feel safe until Ethan is dealt with, as he would have no way of recording her next coitus.

Hmm what? I think you didnt got me.

My point is if erryn is still horrified due to it, she shouldnt do risky stuff (even in public) with the mc either or all the other close to sex stuff they are doing, she could be recorded during that aswell. And it would make more sense to me. But shes in a weird middle ground were everything is okay and dandy just not dick in pussy.

Would be getting filmed mutally masturbating any less disturbing or change anything for example?

Im NOT saying girls arent allowed to tease and flirt or have to put out if they do if you interpreted it like that.

And i fully understand Val (mc less in this case with still picking her up all the time and taking pics of her lol).

 

[byaaahh]

Hmm what? I think you didnt got me.

My point is if erryn is still horrified due to it, she shouldnt do risky stuff (even in public) with the mc either or all the other close to sex stuff they are doing, she could be recorded during that aswell. And it would make more sense to me. But shes in a weird middle ground were everything is okay and dandy just not dick in pussy.

Would be getting filmed mutally masturbating any less disturbing or change anything for example?

Im NOT saying girls arent allowed to tease and flirt or have to put out if they do if you interpreted it like that.

And i fully understand Val (mc less in this case with still picking her up all the time and taking pics of her lol).

I'm not a woman so I can't speak for them. I would think there is a huge chasm between stroking and being stroked off and inviting someone inside you, especially since that comes with the possibilities of pregnancy and STDs.

As I said the trauma is there and she is working through it by escalating to hand stuff, but I don't expect P in V until she knows Ethan can't hurt her.

We should just totally kill Ethan!

 

[SteamGolem]

I check the update from time to time to see if there has been any progress with Elena and it's still moving at a snail's pace. She is the only one I'm interested in. Smitten.