VN Ren'Py Isabella - Chasing Shadows [Ch. 4.3] [badtimetales]

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I know we have different taste but funny enough I didn't like Alex at first but she grew on me tho I still like Isabella more just has some kind of charm i cant explain probably partly cause the model but idk i just like her more than i think I should. She is is #4 out of 52 LI on my personal list right now.
#4... Damn that's high enough. I'll admit the model is not bad(love the eyes)... The issue I have with her is that i can't help but see the fiancé whenever I look at her.. It throws me off and I'm not really a dog person :ROFLMAO:
 
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FatGiant

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I meant Val *sigh* It's too late.
But their will be some Jen dream sequences.
I still wonder how many haven't made the connection...

I'm going to be very honest here. When it was pointed out that Isa and Jen look like twins, I accepted it, but, didn't really agree, yes, they are the same type of woman, but not really that similar. BUT, when we got with Val the first time, yeah, that's the twin. It baffles me that no one else can see it, or mention it.

It must have been some very confusing times for MC's dick when they were together, him and the non-sister twins. Knowing that Jen was planning a threesome with Val, made me gasp for air, that would have been AWESOME. Alas, it didn't happen... Maybe after things get hotter between Isa and Alex, they may be open for a foursome with Val, uh? Bah, not likely, but, I'll keep dreaming of it. One thing, if it happens, I want it to be in front of Jen's photo. Oh Yeah...!!!

Peace :D
 
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badtimetales

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Still, with every new update I miss proper sounds and moans during animations :)
Won't happen for a few reasons.
The sounds must fit the animation, so TTS voices (which are mostly bad anyway) won't work.

If I hire a VA and she quits the job during development, it's a big problem.
But much more important: How do you picture the voices? People make an image of what they cannot see or hear.
So for one player Alex has a smoky voice, the next thinks she has high toned clear voice and so on.

Might be a DLC for steam.
 

Dessolos

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Won't happen for a few reasons.
The sounds must fit the animation, so TTS voices (which are mostly bad anyway) won't work.

If I hire a VA and she quits the job during development, it's a big problem.
But much more important: How do you picture the voices? People make an image of what they cannot see or hear.
So for one player Alex has a smoky voice, the next thinks she has high toned clear voice and so on.

Might be a DLC for steam.
some of these points I never thought about when reading dialogue but I've always imagined if any dev would even do VA it would be be best when the project is complete cause of what you mentioned.
 

Dessolos

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I can't believe some people don't like Alex she is awesome
She is the main reason I even started this game
I saw a preview pic of her a while ago And I just knew I would love her
Honestly I didn't like Alex at first just wasn't my type even if she reminded me of Judy from Cyberpunk and she was too easy into bed for my liking even tho there is a story reason behind it but as I played she grew on me
 
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This gam,e is full of wonderful coincidences: MC is a bleeding heart and the barmaid instantly,
well, we find her into MC, but it seemed like months of pouring his drinks and him pouring his bleeding heart all over her, she took the heart broken MC in for some TLC.
MC is enjoying all this pampering, so having that is a good base to make a game where MC is already saved, he is already steadily settling into Alex”s arms more and more.

Now that we got some context, we will surely find something for the savior complex gamers,
there we got the frail starlett and MC hellbent on making some impression,:
I mean, under the careful gaze of his sugahmama Alex, MC could do anything, there he goes,
then comes the supportive Alex to cuddle her baby bear and there goes the starting point of
a game with relationships and characters engaged in their entangled lives.
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The starlett is someone that MC saves, literally and figuratively.

Here we are throughout the game:
We got the two sides of a relationship covered:

One half in the game catering to those players who enjoy being consoled and ride their bleeding hearts into relationships from girls able and ready to cuddle them and make things better - Alex.
Proof that flying your hurt and victimized flag around will get you girls in months.

The other half in the game goading the savior white nights ready to jump into the lives of
fairer maidens - some see the starlett fairer than Alex - and start prooving their worth
in a somewhat of a pompous struggle to do something meaningful for their maiden.
 
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FatGiant

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This gam,e is full of wonderful coincidences: MC is a bleeding heart and the barmaid instantly,
well, we find her into MC, but it seemed like months of pouring his drinks and him pouring his bleeding heart all over her, she took the heart broken MC in for some TLC.
MC is enjoying all this pampering, so having that is a good base to make a game where MC is already saved, he is already steadily settling into Alex”s arms more and more.

Now that we got some context, we will surely find something for the savior complex gamers,
there we got the frail starlett and MC hellbent on making some impression,:
I mean, under the careful gaze of his sugahmama Alex, MC could do anything, there he goes,
then comes the supportive Alex to cuddle her baby bear and there goes the starting point of
a game with relationships and characters engaged in their entangled lives.
The starlett is someone that MC saves, literally and figuratively.

Here we are throughout the game:
We got the two sides of a relationship covered:

One half in the game catering to those players who enjoy being consoled and ride their bleeding hearts into relationships from girls able and ready to cuddle them and make things better - Alex.
Proof that flying your hurt and victimized flag around will get you girls in months.

The other half in the game goading the savior white nights ready to jump into the lives of
fairer maidens - some see the starlett fairer than Alex - and start prooving their worth
in a somewhat of a pompous struggle to do something meaningful for their maiden.
I think we have played a completely different game.

The MC:

3 things come to mind about him, he's in a relationship with Alex when the game starts, it wasn't a formal one, with titles and all, but an informal one where they had sex routinely; he was trying HARD to get over the death of Jennifer (his fiancée) and the feelings of guilt over not going with her that day; he's a highly trained former military with a over developed sense of duty and a penchant for protection of anyone in need.

Your analysis of him, is full of disdain for his willingness to help a girl in need. Either you didn't understood what was going on, or ...

Alex:

She wasn't instantly anything. When you go talk to her you had been away for a month, without any warning and without contact. But, you were already in a sexual relationship with her, for quite a while. You, and apparently many superficial players, presume that it is the start of a relationship when in fact it is a continuation, we just didn't see the beginning.

You make several assumptions about the MC relationship with her, that he is comfortable, that he is saved, etc. None of them have any support, the fact that the MC went with Jennifer's brother to some place to try to get over her death, is enough proof of that. Alex managed only to get him out of the house and of drinking alone. She managed to get him in touch with the living and to establish a connection out of his grief.

Isabella:

Here is where you went completely off the rails. Someone, an attractive someone even, is in danger, you are able to help without any problem, but, in your mind you are a "savior white night(sic)" because you in fact do. Forgetting that you were trained and conditioned to do EXACTLY that while in the military. You completely misinterpret the whole relationship between the MC and Isabella, in order to paint the MC as a simp "prooving(sic)" his worth. In all instances Isabella asked for help except the first time in the club. From what we can read from your ramblings, he should have told her no.

..................................................................

Nothing is clear when it comes to your ramblings in any thread, but here you left something really obvious, you simply didn't understood anything, didn't (as usual) made any effort to understand and then wrote a ramble (as usual again) with nothing but misunderstood presumptions or downright inventions. Ah well...

Peace :(
 

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Won't happen for a few reasons.
The sounds must fit the animation, so TTS voices (which are mostly bad anyway) won't work.

If I hire a VA and she quits the job during development, it's a big problem.
But much more important: How do you picture the voices? People make an image of what they cannot see or hear.
So for one player Alex has a smoky voice, the next thinks she has high toned clear voice and so on.
You are exactly correct, my friend.
There is nothing better or even close to my own imagination.
In my mind, both Alex and Isa are altos.
Alex borders on tenor like Scarlett Johansson.
Isa sounds more like Gal Gadot sans the Israeli accent.
:devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish::devilish:
MC I voice audibly in a deep, whiskey fueled baritone as I read him.
I'm really not into having voiced characters in an AVN. The sex sounds always sound fake and those AI voices range from almost passable but still f:censored:ing obviously not human to outright Stephen Hawking bullshit. No slight to Mr. Hawking. Just don't want that robo-voice anywhere near my porn games!

Adventure ever on, Phat:devilish:(y)
 
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Won't happen for a few reasons.
The sounds must fit the animation, so TTS voices (which are mostly bad anyway) won't work.

If I hire a VA and she quits the job during development, it's a big problem.
But much more important: How do you picture the voices? People make an image of what they cannot see or hear.
So for one player Alex has a smoky voice, the next thinks she has high toned clear voice and so on.

Might be a DLC for steam.
It's refreshing to see this attitude.

Any VN I've played that later introduced voice acting just destroyed it for me - had to turn that sound channel off.

Some of the moan stuff isn't so bad, but not when they choose "Japanese porn moan - orgasm when you breath near the girl."
 

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So the part where William says "You're (insert your name here)! I didn't know it was you all along!" Then he proceeds to tell the MC how his case was the first big case and then proceeded to follow the MC's life pretty hard. This doesn't make any sense to me. He should've known it was the MC when they met later in life. Feels very illogical.
 
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So the part where William says "You're (insert your name here)! I didn't know it was you all along!" Then he proceeds to tell the MC how his case was the first big case and then proceeded to follow the MC's life pretty hard. This doesn't make any sense to me. He should've known it was the MC when they met later in life. Feels very illogical.
Hmmm... you are aware that people change quite a bit from 11 years old to 31, right?

Also, he followed MC's life, not his looks. Also, many people have a bad face recognition, especially from children to adults.

It's one thing to follow the events on someone's life and another to follow that person physical development.

Or, William was just lying. He knew it was him all along and had positioned himself to be able to insert himself back in his life, have you considered that? I'm NOT saying it is, I'm saying we don't know if it is or not.

The story is still at the start, we don't know how deep the rabbit hole goes, how deep the conspiracy is, how deep BTT wants to take this.

Now, out of the game, you made a VERY good point. Let's see if BTT has something to say about it. *****

Peace :D
 

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Feels very illogical.
Let's see if BTT has something to say about it.
Well, Wil told you a bit about his career, looks like he was really busy.
It was his first big case as a detective, so he was quite invested but after leaving the police and later the army for "more interesting work", this case wasn't so important anymore.

And if you compare the chubby, long haired young MC with his actual looks it's understandable that he didn't recognize the MC at once.


(best excuse I can come up with :rolleyes::ROFLMAO:)
 

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Well, Wil told you a bit about his career, looks like he was really busy.
It was his first big case as a detective, so he was quite invested but after leaving the police and later the army for "more interesting work", this case wasn't so important anymore.

And if you compare the chubby, long haired young MC with his actual looks it's understandable that he didn't recognize the MC at once.


(best excuse I can come up with :rolleyes::ROFLMAO:)
But he has told her lovely niece every detail about the case, so much that she feels she knows it as if it's one of her own cases :unsure:;)
 
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