Italian website selling porn games and claiming to own the copyright for them

[Silvio Berlusconi]

I think they were yes and putting their own Patreon and copyright links into the games.

Why you guys talk if you don't know things? I bought a game some days ago and they still keep credits as they are. They just add "tradotto da Giochi premium" without changing or removing any Patreon link.

I'm not sure the same thing does this guy:

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I've bought a membership some months ago, for 15€ they allows you to download a lot of adult games. I remember that they keep the Patreon botton, but I can't tell you if they don't change the creator's link replacing it with theirs:

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[Torakiki]

Silvio Berlusconi non puoi tradurre un prodotto realizzato da altri senza averne il permesso e riconsocerne i diritti di proprietà e proprietà intelelttuale ovvero non puoi farci dei soldi traducendo prodotti realizzati da altri senza averne il consenso scritto...lo dice la legge

English:
Silvio Berlusconi you may not translate a product made by others without their permission and regain their property and intellectual property rights or you may not make profit meoney by translating products made by others without their written consent...the law says so

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Why you guys talk if you don't know things? I bought a game some days ago and they still keep credits as they are. They just add "tradotto da Giochi premium" without changing or removing any Patreon link.

I'm not sure the same thing does this guy:

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I've bought a membership some months ago, for 15€ they allows you to download a lot of adult games. I remember that they keep the Patreon botton, but I can't tell you if they don't change the creator's link replacing it with theirs:

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If you read back through this thread, that is exactly what they were doing; if aren't still doing it they must have changed.

 

[Bomba33]

Hello guys, hello runey, hello all developers; i am very ashamed of the s___t face of my compatriots. I live not so far from ONLAB S.R.L.S.
If you all want i can put some C4 and entirely blow up that s__tty company.
Joke aside, i have search with Maps and that not is a company; is a fake or an as___le guy with much free time because he live in a little condominial house.
Do not trust dot com domain, they are hard to eradicate from Italy. The only domain regular hosted are dot it and they can be easily pursued by the italian law. (Thankyou Polizia Postale)
For the rest I just wish you the better, guys.

 

[Turtlesweater42]

Yo you guys have gotta be careful with all of this "takedown" bullshit... if you fuckers go out and do that, don't be surprised if they come back and attack all of the game developers that you love who use assets from Illusion (Honey Select and Koikatsu), or DAZ3D, or even F95Zone for fucks sake. Don't go and Cold War this shit with "let's ensure they get taken down" cuz what goes around comes around you dumbasses. In no way do I support them whatsoever, but it's not like we're a bunch of goody-two-shoes either... be careful is all I'm saying, cuz if this site gets attacked next I'm blaming you fuckers.

 

[Adabelitoo]

I fear Turtlesweater42 just talks from experience. Iirc Runey's reaction almost backfired on him.

Maybe Runey himself will explain more about it but as far as I know, the only action that italian jerk took against Runey and Harem Hotel was reporting the game on Patreon and Patreon made him change/remove a school outfit for Ashley because it made her look "underage". Runey changed it and that was it.

Yo you guys have gotta be careful with all of this "takedown" bullshit... if you fuckers go out and do that, don't be surprised if they come back and attack all of the game developers that you love who use assets from Illusion (Honey Select and Koikatsu), or DAZ3D, or even F95Zone for fucks sake. Don't go and Cold War this shit with "let's ensure they get taken down" cuz what goes around comes around you dumbasses. In no way do I support them whatsoever, but it's not like we're a bunch of goody-two-shoes either... be careful is all I'm saying, cuz if this site gets attacked next I'm blaming you fuckers.

So? What's your big idea besides insulting those who are actually trying to do something? What should people do?

 

[anne O'nymous]

if you fuckers go out and do that, don't be surprised if they come back and attack all of the game developers that you love who use assets from Illusion (Honey Select and Koikatsu), or DAZ3D, or even F95Zone for fucks sake.

Well, good luck to him/them.
No one here have reason to fear Illusion. Since a discussion here, more or less one year ago, Illusion is perfectly aware of the situation, and clearly shown, both by their answer than by their (total lack of) action since, that their studio are here to be used. Ideally while letting the copyright notice on the CG, but it happen outside of Japan, so they don't care much.
As for Daz3D, there's nothing to fear by using a 100% free to use software and, unless it's theirs, Daz can't act in name of the creators using their stores. They also have to prove that the assets have been illegally acquired in order to succeed with a takedown notice. As for the fear of an in international lawsuits, no one spend money on them without the certitude that the assets have been illegally acquired ; what they can't have before knowing the name of the person, what they can't know before starting the international lawsuit.
And finally, well, F95Zone have been hit by worse than a stupid Italian airhead.

Don't go and Cold War this shit with "let's ensure they get taken down" cuz what goes around comes around you dumbasses.

If I was him/their, I would fear something more than a takedown notice. One day a dev will have enough of their shit and start a international action for their copyright infringement and property stealth. One person isn't a problem, but the investigation will obviously demonstrate that there isn't one case of both copyright infringement and property stealth, but hundreds...
I really want to see them explain to their cellmates that they are in jail because they dealt with porn games. It will surely lead to some fun times.

 

[Turtlesweater42]

Meaning what exactly? That almost sounds like a threat....

"Almost sounds like a threat"? The fuck are you talking about? I'm the last person you have to worry about doing anything in regards to copyright striking anybody. Don't go putting words in people's mouth to intentionally get them in trouble. "Almost"... it's been a while since I've heard something that childish. Congrats on breaking the streak .

So? What's your big idea besides insulting those who are actually trying to do something? What should people do?

See I don't fucking get you dude, all you do is cherry pick parts of people's posts in an attempt to strawman them. Stop doing that, you aren't 5. If you actually took the small amount of effort to read my post correctly you'd already know that I'm concerned if we hit these people with something like piracy or copyright they'll hit us right back with the same damn thing (maybe in a worse way). Get over your damn inflated ego man, it'll do you some good.

I fear Turtlesweater42 just talks from experience. Iirc Runey's reaction almost backfired on him.

This exactly. Not saying it will happen 100%, and I'm CERTAINLY not threatening anybody (not sure how you could even interpret it that way). The only reason I say it is because I fear we'll receive the same treatment.

Well, good luck to him/them.
No one here have reason to fear Illusion. Since a discussion here, more or less one year ago, Illusion is perfectly aware of the situation, and clearly shown, both by their answer than by their (total lack of) action since, that their studio are here to be used. Ideally while letting the copyright notice on the CG, but it happen outside of Japan, so they don't care much.
As for Daz3D, there's nothing to fear by using a 100% free to use software and, unless it's theirs, Daz can't act in name of the creators using their stores. They also have to prove that the assets have been illegally acquired in order to succeed with a takedown notice. As for the fear of an in international lawsuits, no one spend money on them without the certitude that the assets have been illegally acquired ; what they can't have before knowing the name of the person, what they can't know before starting the international lawsuit.
And finally, well, F95Zone have been hit by worse than a stupid Italian airhead.




If I was him/their, I would fear something more than a takedown notice. One day a dev will have enough of their shit and start a international action for their copyright infringement and property stealth. One person isn't a problem, but the investigation will obviously demonstrate that there isn't one case of both copyright infringement and property stealth, but hundreds...
I really want to see them explain to their cellmates that they are in jail because they dealt with porn games. It will surely lead to some fun times.

I get what you're saying, but why risk more problems? As a stupid Italian airhead myself, believe me when I say they can still do something... might not be all that much (maybe), but it's still something I'm sure we'd all like to avoid.

 

[Adabelitoo]

See I don't fucking get you dude, all you do is cherry pick parts of people's posts in an attempt to strawman them. Stop doing that, you aren't 5. If you actually took the small amount of effort to read my post correctly you'd already know that I'm concerned if we hit these people with something like piracy or copyright they'll hit us right back with the same damn thing (maybe in a worse way). Get over your damn inflated ego man, it'll do you some good.

Dude, really, why are you insulting me? Not only you started your first message by saying "if you fuckers" but now you're also insulting me personally. What's wrong with you?

Since you are talking about "reading", maybe if you do that yourself you would know that DAZ and Illusion games are safe when it comes to that like anne'Onymous said. Not sure what you think people is risking or why you need to be so aggressive.

So again, since apparently you think that what people is doing is bad/wrong/risky/stupid or whatever and it can hurt them too, what you think people should do to make that italian jerk stop selling games? I don't see the "strawman" on that question, I think it's pretty on topic if you ask me.

 

[Benares]

Wow, what in the hell. They have their own patreon and making over 12-18k usd a month from stealing and selling other peoples content. Someone needs to go and burn their hq down, disgusting.

Their office it's like 20 miles away from me

 

[anne O'nymous]

[...] believe me when I say they can still do something... might not be all that much (maybe), but it's still something I'm sure we'd all like to avoid.

I never said that he/they'll do nothing, but that there's nothing he/they can do, what is different.

He/they will try, like any brat would do when you remove their toy, but that's all. Only devs who aren't clear from start (that have native incest in their Patreon game by example) have something to worry. For all the others, so the majority, it will just be a little annoyance. But I'm more that certain that, for them, seeing their game, their works, sold by someone else, who also stealth the paternity of this works, is thousands more an annoyance.
So, no, unlike you I'll never look at that and advice to do nothing in fear to loose my daily dose of porn. Simply because I respect them, even the worst among them, for the effort they put in the creation of their game, and the time, generally all their free time, they dedicate to this.

 

[Cynicaladm]

as a sidenote, their website is not compliant with the GDPR, the european and italian privacy protection laws and can thus be reported to the authority that verifies this, in italy that would be the Garante della privacy.
being non compliant carries fines according to the business volume that can go all the way up to 2 million euro, or 2 % of the turnover, depending on what sum is higher. It might actually be easier to hurt them that way (a tip of to the guardia di finanza or to the garante della privacy directly).



going through their terms and conditions:

DMCA, copyright and Licenses

Any copyright or other intellectual property concerning all the material published by giochipremium is licensed to us or found in free sites and free of copyright. It is absolutely prohibited for you to reproduce all or any part of the contents you recieve from us through the Service in accordance with this agreement.
If someone was in possession of the copyright of any of our deeds can immediately contact the staff at supporto@giochipremium.com

in other words, they download the games from sites such as this one, and then it's up to the original creator to prove that he holds active copyrights to the games, AND that the owner of such copyrights are clearly identifiable from the content/game itself.
This is a potential legal nightmare, it would be adjudicated in an Italian court of law and those are notorious for having very very slow progression. you're bound to be set on a litigation trajectory for years.

 

[Bakamono]

I found another famous site in Italy that sells games:

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Why you guys talk if you don't know things? I bought a game some days ago and they still keep credits as they are. They just add "tradotto da Giochi premium" without changing or removing any Patreon link.

I'm not sure the same thing does this guy:

You must be registered to see the links

I've bought a membership some months ago, for 15€ they allows you to download a lot of adult games. I remember that they keep the Patreon botton, but I can't tell you if they don't change the creator's link replacing it with theirs:

You must be registered to see the links

Hentai-Archive removed the games they had translated a few months ago.
They don't even have a game anymore.
Also, they didn't sell games individually.


Currently only gamepremium.com sells video games individually.

 

[Sharingan33]

I'm italian and I just stumbled in this forum thread; at first i didn't want to make this post but in the end i decided to do it, i just wanted to say that i'm ashamed of this guy who is stealing other people works and not only that: he also sells subscription like he owns the games! Luckily i found this scam website only recently, a friend of mine was thinking of doing the Elite subscription or whatever it's called. Obviously i stopped him and i sent him the link to F95Zone (eheh)

This is for my fellow italian people:
Voi che rubate e rivendete il lavoro di altre persone in cui sono state spese ore e ore di tempo facendo vagonate di soldi, fate ridere. Siete dei falliti parassiti. E due schiaffi in faccia non ve li toglie nessuno, pagliacci. Scusate lo sfogo.

 

[Nivla456]

wow so there is case like this

 

[oaiki]

I'm italian and I just stumbled in this forum thread; at first i didn't want to make this post but in the end i decided to do it, i just wanted to say that i'm ashamed of this guy who is stealing other people works and not only that: he also sells subscription like he owns the games! Luckily i found this scam website only recently, a friend of mine was thinking of doing the Elite subscription or whatever it's called. Obviously i stopped him and i sent him the link to F95Zone (eheh)

This is for my fellow italian people:
Voi che rubate e rivendete il lavoro di altre persone in cui sono state spese ore e ore di tempo facendo vagonate di soldi, fate ridere. Siete dei falliti parassiti. E due schiaffi in faccia non ve li toglie nessuno, pagliacci. Scusate lo sfogo.

e perché ti scusi? sono vigliacchi e ladroni che sfruttano il lavoro degli artisti che creano queste novelle e giochi. Il problema è che anche qui, nonostante il fatto che c'è un beneficio secondario nella publicità, molti prendono il contenuto senza contribuiere agli artisti, chi senza risorse abbandano le loro creazioni e non possono combattere questi pirati ... anche io mi vergogno di questi connazionali.

 

[Torakiki]

I have some updates regarding the HENTAI (

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) site that makes people subscribe to read hentai comics that are third party intellectual property. The same site has a link to another site that sells third party intellectual property adult video games. The site that sells video games is registered to the company ONLAB srl (almost equivalent Ltd).

In the disclaimer PRIVACY POLICY (

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) are declared the generalities of the company that conserve the data of the customers that is numbers of Credit Card and relative nominatives.

By law of the European Union and Italian law is a criminal offense to enter false information of the company that keeps the sensitive data of customers. This means that you can bring a class action lawsuit for fraud.
I advise developers to get organized and agree to join in a collective action and contact a single law firm. The legal action is both legitimate to protect intellectual property, but is enhanced by credit card transactions.

Finally I suggest to buy a game to receive the invoice (official document with the data of the company that made the sale). If the company data were false, the bank transaction data will certainly not be, so the lawyers will be able to ask the bank to access the name that received the money. When there are credit cards involved, the judiciary takes care of it.

I would also add that the same company owns the site Leitaliane which could hide behind the facade of a dating site, an online prostitution ring (

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). Developers that if you get organized and form a class action, I am sure you will solve the problem.

Company data:

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Good Luck!

 

[Deleted member 3250193]

Just a heads up: this website is still active and has a bunch of recognizable games on it. They've renamed them, so you'll have to look for the preview images to see if yours happens to be on there. I saw fairly recognizable games like BaDIK and WVM on there, plus dozens of others.

 

[Sharingan33]

Just a heads up: this website is still active and has a bunch of recognizable games on it. They've renamed them, so you'll have to look for the preview images to see if yours happens to be on there. I saw fairly recognizable games like BaDIK and WVM on there, plus dozens of others.

Yeah, i know, also in the website you can find this:

DMCA, copyright and Licenses

Any copyright or other intellectual property concerning all the material published by giochipremium is licensed to us or found in free sites and free of copyright. It is absolutely prohibited for you to reproduce all or any part of the contents you recieve from us through the Service in accordance with this agreement.
If someone was in possession of the copyright of any of our deeds can immediately contact the staff at supporto@giochipremium.com

So basically they will continue to sell games until the right owner fires a complain in their support email.