- May 19, 2017
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You flat-earthers and your simple lives, always give me a giggle.
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Italian website selling porn games and claiming to own the copyright for them
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I don't know the full story of thomas edison's inventions but I remember hearing many years ago he did steal ownership.
I remember that too, but come on. Tesla wasn't going to market the light bulb, he wasn't interested in that. Maybe we can give Edison a pass
HahahaOn a serious note, this thread is about a website selling games claiming they own their rights. Let's not diverge from the topic.
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Yeah it's cockroach behaviour. Anyone tried to claim their material? Seems like a lawsuit would be viable especially considering Italy's laws but is anyone motivated enough or got the cash for a lawyer to follow it up?I remember that too, but come on. Tesla wasn't going to market the light bulb, he wasn't interested in that. Maybe we can give Edison a pass
On a serious note, this thread is about a website selling games claiming they own their rights. Let's not diverge from the topic.
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I remember that too, but come on. Tesla wasn't going to market the light bulb, he wasn't interested in that. Maybe we can give Edison a pass
On a serious note, this thread is about a website selling games claiming they own their rights. Let's not diverge from the topic.
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Elon Musk has reminded his huge Twitter following that all Tesla patents are public and the electric vehicle (EV) maker would “not initiate patent lawsuits against anyone who, in good faith, wants to use our technology.”
“All our patent are belong to you,” Musk tweeted in a reference to a poor English translation of a line in a 1980s video game originally made in Japan.
copyright infringement is civil, not criminal. international lawsuits can get very expensive
Nope, I'm not interested in flying to Italy and going up to a judge explaining I make a game with anime tiddies.
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It would be an adventure, something to tell the grandkids.
Oh well you've put the information out there maybe by some miracle someone takes up the cause. Even though this site and that site are two different scenarios it is by the same general freedom of the wild west internet that both websites are able to survive.
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Almost all of that is wrong.
The tune to "
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" was originally for a song called, "Good Morning to You", which was written by Patty and Mildred J. Hill in 1893. By around 1911 (possibly as early as 1901) someone added new lyrics to it, making it into the "Happy Birthday to You" song we know today. However, whoever created that version did not include their name in the credits for the song or any copyright on the lyrics. The Summy Company registered copyright on it in 1935, crediting authors Preston Ware Orem and Mrs. R. R. Forman, based on their particular piano arrangement of the song and added lyrics.The only reason why they were able to register that copyright was because they claimed that its authors worked for them, thus it was their property. So, no, someone didn't just find it uncopyrighted and slap their copyright on it. They had to demonstrate ownership first.
A division of Warner Music Group, Warner/Chappell Music, bought Summy Company in 1988. However, in 2013 they were sued for falsely claiming copyright of the song and lyrics. This was upheld in 2015, where the judge stated that they only owned the right to that particular piano arrangement, but not the song or lyrics. Thus they lost ownership of the copyright, due to their false claim, and had to pay a settlement of $14 million to those they had previously charged for the song (a mere drop in the bucket compared to what they earned off it).
Furthermore, since they no longer owned the copyright, the original authors were long dead, and no copyright had been filed (as was the law at the time the song was written), "Happy Birthday to You" was now in the public domain in the US. By 2017 the song has become public domain worldwide.
TL;DR: Your own example proves you wrong in that it was ruled as a false claim of copyright in 2015 . Furthermore, "Happy Birthday to You" is not under copyright anymore.
Copyright is not an exclusively American law. It's accepted by most countries which have agreed to the
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. (Though, admittedly, the application of copyright law does vary somewhat from country to country.)
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When you're Italian.. and you're ashamed of hearing and reading things like this.
I mean, I'm not a saint too because I pirate games (and even more) here and there like there's no tomorrow, but gaining from other's properties it's.. eh. But I guess you can't do nothing about it: in the end we Italian are just thieves and that's all. We get something from others and we act like we were the first who thought about that and this happens even with those shows where you win something (right now I don't remember the right word xD). And not even a sue or anything can stop us, so most likely if these gets taken down, months and they'll come back again at it (though we are not the only one, that's for sure).
I mean, I'm not a saint too because I pirate games (and even more) here and there like there's no tomorrow, but gaining from other's properties it's.. eh. But I guess you can't do nothing about it: in the end we Italian are just thieves and that's all. We get something from others and we act like we were the first who thought about that and this happens even with those shows where you win something (right now I don't remember the right word xD). And not even a sue or anything can stop us, so most likely if these gets taken down, months and they'll come back again at it (though we are not the only one, that's for sure).
Honestly speaking, when it comes to H-game and doujin I'd rather read them in English than Italian. Maybe because I'm.. somewhat ashamed or embarassed to hear such things in my own language and reading in another doesn't give me any problem, but since it's been I don't know how many years so far that I'm playing and reading everything in English most of the time, it doesn't even bother me anymore. So yeah, I'm one of those who really don't care about an Italian translation xD
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What I meant was that Italian law doesn't work like the (broken) patent system in the USA. Of course international conventions are in place, the point I wanted to make was that the way the user reported US law to work is not the way it works here. Intellectual property is not a race to be the first to claim something around here. That may be the case for brands, but for other stuff like software it is not, as far as I know.
Although I yet have to delve into the subject since my studies have only tangentially touched some aspects of the italian code of intellectual property.
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OMG, I feel exactly the same about italian translations of porn! I just can't stand them and feel embarassed!
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I will check if it's possible to contact some authority for the protection of consumers, since they are fraudulently advertising the product and that could be deemed an offense to consumers' rights.
It probably won't be possible, but it would avoid going to court perhaps.
It probably won't be possible, but it would avoid going to court perhaps.
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...just back from the site we're talking about... well, i suppose the italian versions of the games are most probably machine translated, 'cause the italian language i found in there is one of the worse i've ever bumped into...
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this is bull chit for sure, hopeful someone can figure out a way to do something but, as has been eluded to in thread, would need a lawyer and that is not cheap.
however, I seen people talking about Italy's law etc, not seen anyone mention
Alas its tough to do anything about it, but I would encourage contacting them (which is done) , and contact hosting company for site, company that runs domain name, at least see what they say, then go from there, might lead somewhere.
Each developer that has a game on there, would need to put together "proof" that it is there game, as it will be needed and asked for, presume ya'll know this, but important enough to say anyway.
however, I seen people talking about Italy's law etc, not seen anyone mention
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, which 180 countries are signed to it, I would presume Italy is one and someone mentioned hosting was in Netherlands? presume they also signed the international copyright treaty. Although I have no idea where you begin to sort this out, hence the lawyer who would know.Alas its tough to do anything about it, but I would encourage contacting them (which is done) , and contact hosting company for site, company that runs domain name, at least see what they say, then go from there, might lead somewhere.
Each developer that has a game on there, would need to put together "proof" that it is there game, as it will be needed and asked for, presume ya'll know this, but important enough to say anyway.
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An update from Runey's discord: a person contacted them on Runey's behalf and they have replied and removed HH from their site.
Now clicking on it returns a 404 error.
The other games still remain there and will probably remain until their author does the same.
Of course there's no guarantee they won't republish the removed content.
Now clicking on it returns a 404 error.
The other games still remain there and will probably remain until their author does the same.
Of course there's no guarantee they won't republish the removed content.
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What was the contact methodology runey used? To make it easier for other developers wanting their content removed
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He asked an italian to contact them in italian through the contact form on the website.