QSP Jack-o-Nine-Tails [v2.3] [ImperatorAugustusTertius / qwertyu12359]

[YelloOldFellows]

is there a mac version of this game

 

[Nyanto]

Do you have three rules enforced at all times?
Are you giving her good food or let her sleep in your bed?
Also when you reward her, are you giving her better rewards than she deserves?

These come to mind for the causes of spoiling.

Also when you use fear and despair when you train her, there can be some abrupt rejection when she loses a point of fear or despair, because they weigh a lot in determening her obidience.

I think I get why I couldn't get rid of her pride.
First, bondage, shaming, dungeon units and tools do nothing to curb her pride. Only psychological violence and beating her seems to lower her pride.
Second, I still don't understand the relation between spoiling, rebellion and pride. Are spoiling and rebellion hidden stats, or are they related to her happiness?
It does appear that some slaves are harder to tame than others (I'm talking about hidden stats/traits, or the influence between pride and temperament/nature)
Rebellion can cause you a lot of trouble since whenever your slave refuses to comply with the rules established, it gives up to +10 to pride.
There's definitely need to be a rework on this, as there are too few options to influence pride.
I'm especially surprised about the dungeon being useless to tame a prideful slave, what is it used for then?
The only ones I found that could directly influence it (statwise) is anal sex (-1), deepthroat (-1 to -3), hug in reward (sometimes nothing, sometimes -1), psychological and physical violence (from +2 to -10) and when your slave obey the rules established.

(note: sometimes the slave get pride points from punishments, like +2 from sexual bondage)

 

[qwertyu12359]

Unfortunately, mega is also blocked (Chrome gives an "unsupported protocol" error ) I have no idea how to fix it, but the same goes for the loli patch

At this point, I'd just try my luck on Mozilla or Opera. All links work fine for me on chrome however. Tell me how it goes.

I have a question, why the fuck doesn't Gloria (Real Estate Agent) accept my goddamn slave? She's D+, she has both Secretary and Escort at B+.

That depends on the message you get.

Lack of skill:
- "And why do I need her if she was not able to do what is required? I’m not interested in such a product."
"level" is too low:
- "Can you find a better product? This is not good enough for such money."
Lack of charm:
- "Uhhmm.... I don`t know. Formally, she fits, but she looks unpresentable. I don`t like it."
Bad health:
- "What are you trying to pull? She is not healthy and strong as she should be. You’ll be lucky to leave here in one piece!"
Pregnant:
- "So, you are trying to sell me a pregnant slave and want me to deal with it? Absolutely not!"
You suggested your slave to her before:
- "This does not suit me, bring another."

 

[Nyanto]

Slave market became useless.
This slave with stylish style was sold 300 gold at the slave market, a C- slave with exquisite beauty.
Whereas I can sell her to any NPC for at least 750 gold + the reputation point with the noble house

 

[qwertyu12359]

Slave market became useless.

It didn't become anything. I haven't touched a single line of code concerning the market or anything remotely close to it.
Your slave would have sold as much on v1.8 (and I assume, on 1.7.5 too).

 

[Nyanto]

Then must be the guild rank that heavily affect the price of the slave sold.
One one game I'm an unknown guy with a guild status of "guild lacky" and I can sell F rank slaves that I just bought at 1325 gold. (with magical brand)
And in another game, the latest version, with the same fame: unknown guy, but with guild status of guild fall guy, nobody wants to buy my slave at F rank, even if they're beautiful and possess the same stats as the ones from my previous game.
Guess I'll be grinding that guild status then, thanks for the fast response

 

[clown3]

yes i get it. great!

 

[Pravitas]

At this point, I'd just try my luck on Mozilla or Opera. All links work fine for me on chrome however. Tell me how it goes.


That depends on the message you get.

Lack of skill:
- "And why do I need her if she was not able to do what is required? I’m not interested in such a product."
"level" is too low:
- "Can you find a better product? This is not good enough for such money."
Lack of charm:
- "Uhhmm.... I don`t know. Formally, she fits, but she looks unpresentable. I don`t like it."
Bad health:
- "What are you trying to pull? She is not healthy and strong as she should be. You’ll be lucky to leave here in one piece!"
Pregnant:
- "So, you are trying to sell me a pregnant slave and want me to deal with it? Absolutely not!"
You suggested your slave to her before:
- "This does not suit me, bring another."

What? When does the game tell me that I can't offer the same Slave to a person if they rejected it the first time? Also, why is that a thing in the first place?

 

[qwertyu12359]

What? When does the game tell me that I can't offer the same Slave to a person if they rejected it the first time? Also, why is that a thing in the first place?

This mechanism as been discussed in the last few pages, before the full version release. I'm the first individual to find this mechanism absurd, but I didn't dare touch the balance of the game; some users had convincing arguments against removing "first refusal is final". This is an opportunity to relaunch this debate.

 

[Evangelion-01]

This mechanism as been discussed in the last few pages, before the full version release. I'm the first individual to find this mechanism absurd, but I didn't dare touch the balance of the game; some users had convincing arguments against removing "first refusal is final". This is an opportunity to relaunch this debate.

Personally I still see no reason to change that... it was added in HF Version of the game and was meant to make the game a bit more realistic and harder.
You can still simply bypass this by saveing before talkeing to a client and see wether or not you did a good job.
There are several places you can check slave condition and requirements for special clients (in game)... if everything fails there is a Wiki.
The only reason I see why this is an inconvenience is if you are lazy or don't save regulary

 

[bigmoneybrad]

I think I get why I couldn't get rid of her pride.
First, bondage, shaming, dungeon units and tools do nothing to curb her pride. Only psychological violence and beating her seems to lower her pride.
Second, I still don't understand the relation between spoiling, rebellion and pride. Are spoiling and rebellion hidden stats, or are they related to her happiness?
It does appear that some slaves are harder to tame than others (I'm talking about hidden stats/traits, or the influence between pride and temperament/nature)
Rebellion can cause you a lot of trouble since whenever your slave refuses to comply with the rules established, it gives up to +10 to pride.
There's definitely need to be a rework on this, as there are too few options to influence pride.
I'm especially surprised about the dungeon being useless to tame a prideful slave, what is it used for then?
The only ones I found that could directly influence it (statwise) is anal sex (-1), deepthroat (-1 to -3), hug in reward (sometimes nothing, sometimes -1), psychological and physical violence (from +2 to -10) and when your slave obey the rules established.

(note: sometimes the slave get pride points from punishments, like +2 from sexual bondage)

First, some slaves enjoy certain punishments and those won't work on that slave to decrease pride. Maybe yours has a thing for bondage stuff.

Second, spoiling occurs by treating the slave too well. A reward can improve mood. If the slave does a lesson and the game shows she earned a (2) point reward, giving her a (5) point reward will add to spoiling. I tend to offer rewards often early on when deserved. After time, when mood has improved, I reward once at end of day. Usually massage for the energy.

 

[Evangelion-01]

First, some slaves enjoy certain punishments and those won't work on that slave to decrease pride. Maybe yours has a thing for bondage stuff.

Second, spoiling occurs by treating the slave too well. A reward can improve mood. If the slave does a lesson and the game shows she earned a (2) point reward, giving her a (5) point reward will add to spoiling. I tend to offer rewards often early on when deserved. After time, when mood has improved, I reward once at end of day. Usually massage for the energy.

You need to be careful with massage though... doing so 3 days after another even if her reward shows 5 will cause spoil.
Also Message and Petting on the same day and 2 days after each other creates spoil.
I think the only way to savely spoil a slave if she has the megalomania trait (could be wrong about the writing) as even the simplest action creates +5 reward

 

[i107760]

Finished game as Jack/Jonny/Nerd whatever he is called again on hardcore, 110 days now. Only got a D-. Slightly messed up, did not do every race and arena fight, and often forgot to spread rumors so spent about two extra decades waiting to go to Legendary reputation to start the patrician quest. With my A+ and S+ slaves just waiting in the tanks... Now that I'm playing this game again, my biggest annoyances/wishes would be:

keybinds to select options. For example 1=top option, 2=second option, etc. Not sure if possible with QSP though. (I play on laptop with trackpad, my hand it starts to hurt lol.)
outfit system/mass buying outfits for new slaves. I hate having to go around the map, buying my standard outfit for new slaves and equiping it on every slave. It's like 20clicks+ per slave that add basically nothing since it's the same everytime. Being able to instantly put on an entire outfit/swap outfit would also save a lot of clicks.

Spoiling really is not that hard to manage, don't start giving her good food/bed before she's devoted. And make sure to equip her with the right outfit to speed up training. Making money is very easy, I can do a D+ contract for 800sparks in 3days. Anyone know if the rank of contract matters for leveling up in the guild? I don't like doing higher tiers since the reward is too little, but kind of want to speed up leveling up in the guild since that's the only 'stat' my slaver is lacking now.

 

[consumptionist]

qwertyu12359 I am totally gonna sit on the fence as I don't like to take sides...…….nah sod it
im with evangelion-01 on the point about first refusal. its a part of the game that isn't broke so why fix it?
there is an auto save function built into the game which I assume still works so not much can be lost by a moment of forgetfulness and anyone losing further progress just needs to learn about diligence.

its a part of the mechanics that make the game more appealing for me as, myself as a gamer, can also then be punished for my lack of foresight. its a strategy/rpg type game so there should be pitfalls. without them its barely a game

 

[Pravitas]

This mechanism as been discussed in the last few pages, before the full version release. I'm the first individual to find this mechanism absurd, but I didn't dare touch the balance of the game; some users had convincing arguments against removing "first refusal is final". This is an opportunity to relaunch this debate.

It's... It's an actual debate? Lol... Some people man. Imagine that "That Slave isn't good enough"... "Oh, that Slave is now good enough, but fuck you."

 

[i107760]

More like "You lied to me once about this slave, now I won't believe your promises anymore." You can see their skills expressed as stats, but that is because it's game. Having them deny your slave = they see through your lies about their skills. Lying to your customers carries the risk that they won't buy the same slave anymore. If you want to lie without any problems, you can get the snake talisman from the central forum. It's a deliberate gameplay mechanic.

 

[Anon21]

I think something went wrong with my install, maybe?

I can't buy any groceries from the shop for a start (and yes, I do have money).

 

[qwertyu12359]

I think something went wrong with my install, maybe?

I can't buy any groceries from the shop for a start (and yes, I do have money).

Because you're a lone traveler living in a tiny shack that was literally built on an aggregate of dung. You have nothing to available for conservation or storage. Nothing to bath either.

It's very important to move somewhere else.

 

[i107760]

I think something went wrong with my install, maybe?

I can't buy any groceries from the shop for a start (and yes, I do have money).

Move to a real house. Then go back to the fogs, to collect Isabella, a great starting assistant.

 

[bra809]

I'm missing something very obvious, but... how do I load a save? The load button doesn't "load", nor gives an error... it just nothing.