Kadotav2's response made perfect logical sense. You attempted to legitimize your personal fetish over others.
Not all fetishes are created equal. And that's the illusion many try to hide behind because "it's porn." If I were to describe a scenario where a male character has sex with a decapitated female body, and I stated, "that's disgusting," how many would bat an eye at my aversion? Necrophilia is a "fetish" and therefore it stands with all others by virtue of? I'm not arguing that a preference for bestiality isn't a fetish. I'm merely stating that I find it disgusting, as I would many others.
The logic only fell apart
How did it make "perfect logical sense" if the logic fell apart?
when you made that long winded
It was a bit verbose, but I wouldn't say "long winded..."
analogy based on a false equivalency.
Then it never made sense to begin with. And that was my point.
I personally enjoy (viewing) both,
Hold on to this thought.
because porn is and always has been sexual fantasy. At least for me.
I don't think anyone is disputing this. The question is, "why do you bear a fantasy that includes an animal or beast having sex with a human?"
Your original premise was faulty to begin with and your argument becomes more absurd with each point. Your position can only be held (authentically) by a "vanilla" porn enjoyer.
I'm pretty "vanilla" when it comes to incest, sure. But I'm willing to bet that I've seen a lot more "offensive" and "dark" material than most here.
Based on your logic, oral and anal sex would also "lack appeal".
I find anal sex disgusting, too. Oral sex is a means to stimulate the genitalia in preparation for intercourse. I've never taken issue with it. Since 3D "porn" has a lot more creative license, as do many other media, it tends to exaggerate the virility of the male participants. Oral insemination isn't often when the buck stops as it tends to be a compliment to the eventual sex. (I think
Southern Hospitality may have featured just a focus blowjob and oral insemination.)
Since women can't be fertilized that way.
Except this does not speak to Mr. Weeaboo's point about the fervor to see these female characters "impregnated." Hence, my allusion to insemination and fertilization in that specific context.
Incest makes sense from a human reproductive standpoint? W H A T? Inbreeding is literally the worst thing you can do to a sexually reproductive species. The species would become more and more infertile with each generation, eventually becoming sterile. That natural male desire to reproduce EXCLUDES incest. Which is why most people (even animals) have a subconscious aversion or disgust towards incest.
One out of 10 people marry and have sex with their cousins. If I remember correctly, it was as high as 20-25% worldwide in the early to mid-20th century. Consanguineous relationships, contrary to popular belief, DO NOT CREATE genetic defects. The consanguinity only makes it more likely to be passed on if there's ALREADY A GENETIC DEFECT present. If one were to have sex with one's cousin for example, and a pregnancy resulted, the chance of genetic defect is only 2% larger than the global average, which is identical to non-consanguineous relationships among those who are in their mid-thirties and older. Incestuous relationships were rampant in the 15th century as a means for maintaining "blood purity," and is still practiced today among wealthy families as means to consolidate their wealth. Even though it's not pointed out often, the 32nd president of the United States was married to his cousin, Eleanor (though to be fair, it was his fourth or fifth cousin, I believe.) 19 states of the U.S. allow first cousins to marry and seven of them allow it under special conditions.
While true that most people would be averted to incest 9:1, it still makes more sense than bestiality. That's my point.
"Pregnancy creates the ultimate bond". Do I even need to debunk this?
Please do.
You're just gaslighting at this point.
Gaslight:
a: psychological manipulation of a person usually over an extended period of time that causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories and typically leads to confusion, loss of confidence and self-esteem, uncertainty of one's emotional or mental stability, and a dependency on the perpetrator. .
b
: the act or practice of grossly misleading someone especially for one's own advantage.
How have I done either?
That "bond" needs to be established independently beforehand. Even then, 50% of parents still end up separating anyway. If I got some chick off tinder pregnant we wouldn't be "bonded", we'd be stuck.
That "bond" is the child. That is, you will always have a relationship with that person because they either birthed or sired your child.
You're getting lost in the incestual sauce buddy.
I'm not your buddy, friend. (South Park Reference.)
Convinced that you're a normie and forgot you're a weird freak like the rest of us.
Once again, not all fetishes are created equal. And I can defend incest all day. I've even defended it with people I know intimately, including family and friends. Can you defend bestiality?
You don't like the beasty boys.
My liking or disliking people who favor bestiality is irrelevant. With that said, I won't indulge the pretense that one's fetishes don't provide indication about one's values on sex.
As far as that held point, your response would seem to be knee-jerk reaction and exclamation of "your opinion is wrong, and let me tell you why mine is better." And that's all fine and well, since I do have a "fetish" for debating. Would you do me the courtesy of submitting your response in this thread:
Off Topic
I agree with
Bimebex21 and wouldn't want to see this thread closed because of extended off topic discussions. Or feel free to start a conversation with me if you want to continue our discourse.