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astronomenon

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I don't understand the anger here. The people that pay him to create aren't commissioners, they are patrons. They aren't paying him to create a specific product, they are paying him so that he can create in general. If it takes him longer to complete a project or if he fails to produce a product, then that's built into the model. The risk of loss is balanced by the opportunity for creative freedom.
Please stop sharing your anger of confusion about the process. It doesn't help anyone and just helps to create a negative environment around an expected model. While I'm not a patron of Jackerman, I think its important to know that you're not better than a patron because you refuse to be a contributor. You simply come off as an angry beggar who screams about how right you are because people who have jobs can eat in a restaurant and you never get diarrhea from said restaurant food because you only eat scraps from the trashcan that other people have thrown out after being satisfied from eating.
Sharing anticipation about a project is great. Sharing frustration with others because you're waiting for a long time is cathartic. But feeling justified about complaints for years, when the artist in question does produce works is just dismissive, trifling, and petty. I hope the agitators are jealous authors, otherwise whats the point of all this negativity? Do you need free porn that badly? Are you an addict who can't appreciate patience or novelty anymore? Perhaps its time to seek help if pornography has become a source of frustration and not an avenue for release. Sorry friend. This is not meant to be insulting, but rather clarification. If you have a personal problem, you're broadcasting it to strangers who cannot help you and might even be soothing themselves from your neutered frustrations. Maybe you need to take a break so you're not grieving a project you're not even a part of.
But what do I know, I just prowl here for the free porn...
 

RamRanch San

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I don't understand the anger here. The people that pay him to create aren't commissioners, they are patrons. They aren't paying him to create a specific product, they are paying him so that he can create in general. If it takes him longer to complete a project or if he fails to produce a product, then that's built into the model. The risk of loss is balanced by the opportunity for creative freedom.
Please stop sharing your anger of confusion about the process. It doesn't help anyone and just helps to create a negative environment around an expected model. While I'm not a patron of Jackerman, I think its important to know that you're not better than a patron because you refuse to be a contributor. You simply come off as an angry beggar who screams about how right you are because people who have jobs can eat in a restaurant and you never get diarrhea from said restaurant food because you only eat scraps from the trashcan that other people have thrown out after being satisfied from eating.
Sharing anticipation about a project is great. Sharing frustration with others because you're waiting for a long time is cathartic. But feeling justified about complaints for years, when the artist in question does produce works is just dismissive, trifling, and petty. I hope the agitators are jealous authors, otherwise whats the point of all this negativity? Do you need free porn that badly? Are you an addict who can't appreciate patience or novelty anymore? Perhaps its time to seek help if pornography has become a source of frustration and not an avenue for release. Sorry friend. This is not meant to be insulting, but rather clarification. If you have a personal problem, you're broadcasting it to strangers who cannot help you and might even be soothing themselves from your neutered frustrations. Maybe you need to take a break so you're not grieving a project you're not even a part of.
But what do I know, I just prowl here for the free porn...
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DicksInSpace

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I don't understand the anger here. The people that pay him to create aren't commissioners, they are patrons. They aren't paying him to create a specific product, they are paying him so that he can create in general. If it takes him longer to complete a project or if he fails to produce a product, then that's built into the model. The risk of loss is balanced by the opportunity for creative freedom.
Please stop sharing your anger of confusion about the process. It doesn't help anyone and just helps to create a negative environment around an expected model. While I'm not a patron of Jackerman, I think its important to know that you're not better than a patron because you refuse to be a contributor. You simply come off as an angry beggar who screams about how right you are because people who have jobs can eat in a restaurant and you never get diarrhea from said restaurant food because you only eat scraps from the trashcan that other people have thrown out after being satisfied from eating.
Sharing anticipation about a project is great. Sharing frustration with others because you're waiting for a long time is cathartic. But feeling justified about complaints for years, when the artist in question does produce works is just dismissive, trifling, and petty. I hope the agitators are jealous authors, otherwise whats the point of all this negativity? Do you need free porn that badly? Are you an addict who can't appreciate patience or novelty anymore? Perhaps its time to seek help if pornography has become a source of frustration and not an avenue for release. Sorry friend. This is not meant to be insulting, but rather clarification. If you have a personal problem, you're broadcasting it to strangers who cannot help you and might even be soothing themselves from your neutered frustrations. Maybe you need to take a break so you're not grieving a project you're not even a part of.
But what do I know, I just prowl here for the free porn...
The issue is the delays upon delays upon delays. If it was more accurately portrayed to take literally years longer than expected people wouldn't feel so let down with each and every delay when the goalposts move a few months at a time
 

8TB

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I don't understand the anger here. The people that pay him to create aren't commissioners, they are patrons. They aren't paying him to create a specific product, they are paying him so that he can create in general. If it takes him longer to complete a project or if he fails to produce a product, then that's built into the model. The risk of loss is balanced by the opportunity for creative freedom.
Please stop sharing your anger of confusion about the process. It doesn't help anyone and just helps to create a negative environment around an expected model. While I'm not a patron of Jackerman, I think its important to know that you're not better than a patron because you refuse to be a contributor. You simply come off as an angry beggar who screams about how right you are because people who have jobs can eat in a restaurant and you never get diarrhea from said restaurant food because you only eat scraps from the trashcan that other people have thrown out after being satisfied from eating.
Sharing anticipation about a project is great. Sharing frustration with others because you're waiting for a long time is cathartic. But feeling justified about complaints for years, when the artist in question does produce works is just dismissive, trifling, and petty. I hope the agitators are jealous authors, otherwise whats the point of all this negativity? Do you need free porn that badly? Are you an addict who can't appreciate patience or novelty anymore? Perhaps its time to seek help if pornography has become a source of frustration and not an avenue for release. Sorry friend. This is not meant to be insulting, but rather clarification. If you have a personal problem, you're broadcasting it to strangers who cannot help you and might even be soothing themselves from your neutered frustrations. Maybe you need to take a break so you're not grieving a project you're not even a part of.
But what do I know, I just prowl here for the free porn...
Well stated, friend. The so called disgruntled, if you can even label them as such, are so desperate to have everyone believe their own gaslighting that it would appear that they themselves are convinced by the smoke and mirrors. We get it: you're angry. And not without reason. But you're going to stick around and wait, regardless. So why the pretense? Why the phony self-righteous indignation? Because, and this is just my opinion, this incessant rabble-rousing appears more like the shrieks of an impatient addict looking for his next fix, than someone who's "warning the masses" of some unscrupulous grifter.
 

Dedingovi

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I don't understand the anger here. The people that pay him to create aren't commissioners, they are patrons. They aren't paying him to create a specific product, they are paying him so that he can create in general. If it takes him longer to complete a project or if he fails to produce a product, then that's built into the model. The risk of loss is balanced by the opportunity for creative freedom.
Please stop sharing your anger of confusion about the process. It doesn't help anyone and just helps to create a negative environment around an expected model. While I'm not a patron of Jackerman, I think its important to know that you're not better than a patron because you refuse to be a contributor. You simply come off as an angry beggar who screams about how right you are because people who have jobs can eat in a restaurant and you never get diarrhea from said restaurant food because you only eat scraps from the trashcan that other people have thrown out after being satisfied from eating.
Sharing anticipation about a project is great. Sharing frustration with others because you're waiting for a long time is cathartic. But feeling justified about complaints for years, when the artist in question does produce works is just dismissive, trifling, and petty. I hope the agitators are jealous authors, otherwise whats the point of all this negativity? Do you need free porn that badly? Are you an addict who can't appreciate patience or novelty anymore? Perhaps its time to seek help if pornography has become a source of frustration and not an avenue for release. Sorry friend. This is not meant to be insulting, but rather clarification. If you have a personal problem, you're broadcasting it to strangers who cannot help you and might even be soothing themselves from your neutered frustrations. Maybe you need to take a break so you're not grieving a project you're not even a part of.
But what do I know, I just prowl here for the free porn...
Friend, we didn't create a negative environment for Jackerman; Jackerman himself created it for himself. What's being said here is simply to show this truth so that even those who are thinking of becoming subscribers one day can give up on this madness. I think this is much more valuable, even for helping people who are undecided about subscribing to his content, than your idea of patting him on the head and pretending nothing is happening. Mistakes can happen in a project, but mistakes and dishonesty are completely opposite things. To postpone something that was supposed to launch in 2022 to 2026 and then repeatedly say during those years that "things are going well" or "this will be the last postponement" is pure dishonesty. But if you think we're the ones who are wrong and the right thing to do is not say anything negative about Jackerman, then that only shows how dishonest you are too.
 

Lelolelolelo

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From a recently graduated engineer, I kinda understand his mindset because if there's one thing I can understand is the time commitment one has to do with engineering, it's not just the courses, he prolly did projects, internships, prolly retook some classes because electrical is kinda famous for the fake 4 year degree, most people I knew including myself got through it in 5 years.

The messed up part is also dragging along people with was basically his side gig. He could ditch porn behind and work a traditional engineering entry role as a technician or jr entry, so people being mad here, I think the healthier approach would be to slowly let go of this artist because it looks this was more a hobby than the main focus of his life (and that's ok) .

Does this justify his turbulent communication? No it really doesn't, but having the mental to just find other artists or just stop relying on porn that much could be a plus (ironic I'm typing that idea here but I digress...)
 

adson4231

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I don't understand the anger here. The people that pay him to create aren't commissioners, they are patrons. They aren't paying him to create a specific product, they are paying him so that he can create in general. If it takes him longer to complete a project or if he fails to produce a product, then that's built into the model. The risk of loss is balanced by the opportunity for creative freedom.
Please stop sharing your anger of confusion about the process. It doesn't help anyone and just helps to create a negative environment around an expected model. While I'm not a patron of Jackerman, I think its important to know that you're not better than a patron because you refuse to be a contributor. You simply come off as an angry beggar who screams about how right you are because people who have jobs can eat in a restaurant and you never get diarrhea from said restaurant food because you only eat scraps from the trashcan that other people have thrown out after being satisfied from eating.
Sharing anticipation about a project is great. Sharing frustration with others because you're waiting for a long time is cathartic. But feeling justified about complaints for years, when the artist in question does produce works is just dismissive, trifling, and petty. I hope the agitators are jealous authors, otherwise whats the point of all this negativity? Do you need free porn that badly? Are you an addict who can't appreciate patience or novelty anymore? Perhaps its time to seek help if pornography has become a source of frustration and not an avenue for release. Sorry friend. This is not meant to be insulting, but rather clarification. If you have a personal problem, you're broadcasting it to strangers who cannot help you and might even be soothing themselves from your neutered frustrations. Maybe you need to take a break so you're not grieving a project you're not even a part of.
But what do I know, I just prowl here for the free porn...
I wish i had the same talent as jackerman to lie, delay, take people money, ban the ones who questioned him, play victim, keep doing that for years, and still have bitches riding him like there's no tomorrow
 

Dedingovi

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I wish i had the same talent as jackerman to lie, delay, take people money, ban the ones who questioned him, play victim, keep doing that for years, and still have bitches riding him like there's no tomorrow
Yes, he has an extraordinary power to influence people. You know, I was a supporter of his last year, I supported him throughout 2024 when he made an announcement promising that he would release MW3 that year and that we could rest easy because MW3 wouldn't go past 2024, but then we saw what happened... He kept increasing the release date quarter by quarter and now he's aiming to do the same with 2026, but curiously, for some people here, we're the ones who are wrong for criticizing him and not understanding his side. Honestly, I feel sorry for those who let themselves be manipulated to this extent by him.
 

Archonde

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I'm not going to judge Jack's decision to prioritize his education over animating porn; in fact, I think it's brilliant of him. Paying for four years of education and rent in the United States, just with the expectation that he'd release a specific porn animation? OpenAI wishes it could keep investors that way, lmao. :KEK:

The problem is the huge amount of delays over the years. A few don't bother, cause life is unpredictable and shit can happen at any moment, right? But when the whole thing keeps getting delayed over and over, with different excuses each time, don't be surprised when people get tired of that and get mad at you. Specially when some of the reasons for the delays are damn ridiculous for the type of project he's working on. Paying a whole orchestra to compose the music for a incest animation? :HideThePain:

Add also the worry that, because of how his past work went, most people already have it in their minds that out of the 40 minutes long porn animation, only 15 minutes would actually be sex scenes and they would be very "vanilla" :BootyTime:
It could become the biggest Blue Balls of porn animation history LMAO
 

DarthYBE

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If you have content, in original quality (no reencode), untouched and straight from the artist, you can use the report function to give it to the staff so we can update.
Personally, I don't have the Descent version, only the regular one + the aftermath.
I see, thank you.
 

astronomenon

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Apr 16, 2018
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Maybe I have a different view on being a "paypig" because I subscribe to wikipedia, npr, st judes, a handful of artists and a dozen "good" organizations. I don't mind paying for talented people to do their thing. Probably because I have enough money and I don't want to do it. I recognize that for some having enough money isn't a luxury they have. But I mean its only like $100+ dollars a year for this one dude. I make more than that before lunch every day. And if the average income for Americans is $36/hr (i understand that the wealthy move it way to the right) then that means on average subscriptions are worth 3hrs of work for hours of porn. Thats not the worst deal. Thats cheaper than a reasonable yearly matinee movie budget. I just don't understand the anger, even if he is exploitative because its so cheap. If you used each of his videos 2x a year then you're getting a steal. Its even more effective if you dont have a sexual partner(s) because its satisfying a need you can't fulfill otherwise and partners are expensive. I'm fine with spending around $2k a year on combined special interests. $167/mo for everything is still less than people spend on church and it includes supporting hospitals, bake sales, artists, knowledge databases and charities. So I can't be as upset about "over paying" an artist. For all we know, he probably thanks his sponsors every day because they allow him to find self worth. I know my kids like sending money to youtubers for nonsense I can't agree with. But people contribute money to what they believe in.
I want you to know I recognize I don't get it. And I don't want you think I'm looking down on you. I just want you to know this shit doesn't matter. And if it does, then maybe that is something that should be addressed for your own health. Do unsubscribe from him. Do avoid "scammers" like him in the future. But don't lurk hoping to discourage others. This is not a job. You're not getting paid. I understand you're looking for free porn, but your time is worth more than that. Mine is too, but I bored right now wrapping christmas presents and sometimes these comments are entertaining.
Enjoy your porn, talk about it if you enjoy it, but don't let it get you worked up. Except if you plan on releasing at the highest peak of tension. Then you get that high quality nut. Yummy.
 
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