VN Ren'Py Jessica O'Neil's Hard News [v0.60] [stoperArt]

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kasata

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The story is definitely an important aspect, BUT, you really don't wanna become like "A Wife and Mother" because that game is closing in on 3 years since its release and there's been like 1-2 sex scenes with the MC and her husband during that time and that's all the sex content with her....after 3 years of updates.

At this point AWAM has stopped being a porn game and more of a cash cow for the dev who keeps adding more and more boring extended scenes that lead to another half boob being shown or a kiss...that's not "growing the story" that's 101 money milking machine strats.

Every update needs to have a climax, but if that climax is something that you've had 5 times already, things tend to get stale. It's like eating pizza every single day, pizza is amazing, but at one point you'll want something else and I'm not talking about different toppings..
 
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And even tho it has almost no sex scenes it's still one of the most popular games here. Teasing is also a fetish and it's quite succesful. If that's what's dev vision is he should follow it. The case with AWAM is that it became popular because of its premises but lost most of them because of demands of people who were there just because of these premises. Patreon is the most cancerous development method I've seen making devs jumping from sex scene to another just to satisfy group of horny people who keep talking about this retarded "milking" idea. JOHN is not even close with its pace to AWAM cuz JOHN have sex scene in 1 minute and more than 5 altogether.
 
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i think in a few years, we don't gonna see any sex scenes on this site, because everytime they add a game on here they are with non sexual content.
 
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kasata said:
Here you go, the $30 tier for AWAM, tell me again how adding, what should be the standard (1080p renders), behind such a big paywall make any sense, I'm actually curious to know your answer, because according to you, there's no such thing as "milking" a game and I'll ignore the whole "retarded" thing because you're clearly an expert on the matter.

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Dude if you are not paying then chill. If you are a patreon then feel free to cancel your subscription. It's Stoper's game and he will decide the price. Some devs milk their patreons bcoz the patreons allow it. It's their money and they will decide how they want to spend it. Not everyone has a girlfriend or a good married life.

And if you are not a patreon then remember "beggars can't be choosers"
 
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kasata said:
Here you go, the $30 tier for AWAM, tell me again how adding, what should be the standard (1080p renders), behind such a big paywall make any sense, I'm actually curious to know your answer, because according to you, there's no such thing as "milking" a game and I'll ignore the whole "retarded" thing because you're clearly an expert on the matter.

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Tier rewards can be done in a correct way or not and they have nothing to do with that mithological milking. It's a crowdfunding platform not a store and if that's your wish you can release once per 10 years. People see what they get and L&P since his 1 version was going to have insanely slow pace. He is releasing new updates steadily and creates shitload of content on his own so even if some don't like it it's hard to call it milking. The only creator I could accuse of violating trust of his Patrons is Gumdrop cuz he seriously looks like a scammer but even with him it's not an obvious thing. I've played AWAM since the beginning and the only thing that changed is that its pace became much faster and routes been removed. I wish to see that "milking" term used once by anyone who's not talking about sex scenes with his/her favourite character and is/was an actual Patron.
 
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Well ton of patreons are milking their customers with endless teases and no sex scenes. Personally, I lost interest in many of them.
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what i mean is, many people request games that have no sexual content and will never have sexual content, this forum was made for porn games, but they add more and more games with no sexual content that's why i am affraid we don't get any games with sexual content in a few years, i don't complain about this game because i don't pay for it and i like the story of this game. this update will be about connor but the next one will be with maybe Mr.parker or the mayor so i can't wait for that update.
 
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Ignazzio said:
Tier rewards can be done in a correct way or not and they have nothing to do with that mithological milking. It's a crowdfunding platform not a store and if that's your wish you can release once per 10 years. People see what they get and L&P since his 1 version was going to have insanely slow pace. He is releasing new updates steadily and creates shitload of content on his own so even if some don't like it it's hard to call it milking. The only creator I could accuse of violating trust of his Patrons is Gumdrop cuz he seriously looks like a scammer but even with him it's not an obvious thing. I've played AWAM since the beginning and the only thing that changed is that its pace became much faster and routes been removed. I wish to see that "milking" term used once by anyone who's not talking about sex scenes with his/her favourite character and is/was an actual Patron.
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I rest my case, now let's stop derailing this thread with irrelevant games.
 
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Deep down stoper knows that such minute details are slowing down the progress of the game (tremendously). A more cost effective game designer would cut corners out of necessity, knowing that the average viewer will appreciate an image only for a relative short time until they move on to the next.

I understand that he feels the need to perfect his renders but I would say that pictures of DVD covers, cut in slices, would have done the trick also. I mean you can easily see the doublets after all the trouble he went through. There should be a better balance between the amount of details and the time it takes to create them or at least I wish he would give it a thought.
 
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kasata said:
The story is definitely an important aspect, BUT, you really don't wanna become like "A Wife and Mother" because that game is closing in on 3 years since its release and there's been like 1-2 sex scenes with the MC and her husband during that time and that's all the sex content with her....after 3 years of updates.

At this point AWAM has stopped being a porn game and more of a cash cow for the dev who keeps adding more and more boring extended scenes that lead to another half boob being shown or a kiss...that's not "growing the story" that's 101 money milking machine strats.

Every update needs to have a climax, but if that climax is something that you've had 5 times already, things tend to get stale. It's like eating pizza every single day, pizza is amazing, but at one point you'll want something else and I'm not talking about different toppings..
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slightchance said:
Deep down stoper knows that such minute details are slowing down the progress of the game (tremendously). A more cost effective game designer would cut corners out of necessity, knowing that the average viewer will appreciate an image only for a relative short time until they move on to the next.

I understand that he feels the need to perfect his renders but I would say that pictures of DVD covers, cut in slices, would have done the trick also. I mean you can easily see the doublets after all the trouble he went through. There should be a better balance between the amount of details and the time it takes to create them or at least I wish he would give it a thought.
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according to me there is also a problem of scene optimization. He recently declared that he will release a final scene with conner, when he could easily put aside this work and concentrate from now on improving some scene of the next episode. For example, if I am not mistaken, there will be another meeting with the mayor, even if in this scene there will be another mild attempt to tease him, I honestly don't know what to think. I really like his style but I think that this will narrow supporters to a niche. Glad he ...
 
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I really like the story of the game. complete personal history and character and the ability to create your own story. wait and don't get sick. :love:
 
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