VN Ren'Py Jessica O'Neil's Hard News [v0.65] [stoperArt]

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AlfredBundy4 said:
I will always repeat that making adult VNs is basically a test of one's soul or spirit once they start to bring in some money, lol.

It's a test that asks the question of whether or not you care about the act of creating art (even pornographic) or you like milking for cash.

Basically, once presented with an income that requires no guarantee of work...will you still work? That's the test and, sadly, most fail it. Once money gets involved it forces this person sitting in front of a computer screen to answer the question of WHY they're doing it and most aren't doing it for the love of the artform.
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I've followed several developers from nothing but hopes to making a solid living. Most of them worked their asses off until they reached their financial goals and then they slowed it down not long after. (In one case, a dev worked like hell for almost 4 years before finally getting the amount of support they were looking for to quit their day job and sure enough... they openly stated they will be posting slower updates from now on for health reasons. They've just started their second game too.)

Only ONE dev kept consistently posting actual updates and working hard after starting to make good money. I happily support them on Patreon and they're working on their FOURTH game at this point with a fifth game planned.

Everyone deserves a break though so I understand taking a month or two off a year but there's a limit to dragging your feet. I've been learning game development myself as a hobby and have several projects going on so they can't claim I don't know how much work is involved and how things are done, lol.
 
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LowLevelLesser said:
I've followed several developers from nothing but hopes to making a solid living. Most of them worked their asses off until they reached their financial goals and then they slowed it down not long after. (In one case, a dev worked like hell for almost 4 years before finally getting the amount of support they were looking for to quit their day job and sure enough... they openly stated they will be posting slower updates from now on for health reasons. They've just started their second game too.)

Only ONE dev kept consistently posting actual updates and working hard after starting to make good money. I happily support them on Patreon and they're working on their FOURTH game at this point with a fifth game planned.

Everyone deserves a break though so I understand taking a month or two off a year but there's a limit to dragging your feet. I've been learning game development myself as a hobby and have several projects going on so they can't claim I don't know how much work is involved and how things are done, lol.
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Absolutely. It's not easy by any means. It's not back breaking labor but it's also not the case of waking up, clicking the mouse once and suddenly you have a render. DAZ sucks to work with, haha. It just does.

So everyone deserves a break but, again, once you make money that isn't tied to a guarantee of work (like a real job) you learn who the dev is as a person. You learn about why they make anything, be it adult themed or not.
Some very few just love to create. They wanna tell stories and even if one is super successful they'll finish it at a good clip and make another.

The typical smut peddler (lol) isn't that. They started because they liked a render or VN they found. They tried it out and whipped something up that others liked. Then money came and after they've came (in another way) 1000000x to whatever they made they're sick of it. It's just free money when you become a milker and who doesn't like free money?

It's a shame that most are built that way.
 
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AlfredBundy4 said:
Absolutely. It's not easy by any means. It's not back breaking labor but it's also not the case of waking up, clicking the mouse once and suddenly you have a render. DAZ sucks to work with, haha. It just does.

So everyone deserves a break but, again, once you make money that isn't tied to a guarantee of work (like a real job) you learn who the dev is as a person. You learn about why they make anything, be it adult themed or not.
Some very few just love to create. They wanna tell stories and even if one is super successful they'll finish it at a good clip and male another.

The typical smut peddler (lol) isn't that. They started because they liked a render or VM they found. They tried it out and whipped something up that others liked. Then money came and after they've came (in another way) 1000000x to whatever they made they're sick of it. It's just free money when you become a Miller and who doesn't like free money?

It's a shame that most are built that way.
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Free money only because people continue to support, so they like this attitude and I have more questions to them, not to Dev.
 
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Obranyi said:
Free money only because people continue to support, so they like this attitude and I have more questions to them, not to Dev.
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Honestly, I think many people who subscribe for a couple dollars a month over time just forget about it. What's 2-3 dollars on your credit card, you don't even notice it. Will you even notice upwards of $25 if your making good money, probably not. After all they probably spend way more for gas and dining out a month. So they just pay the credit card bill without seeing it.
 
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JaxMan said:
Honestly, I think many people who subscribe for a couple dollars a month over time just forget about it. What's 2-3 dollars on your credit card, you don't even notice it. Will you even notice upwards of $25 if your making good money, probably not. After all they probably spend way more for gas and dining out a month. So they just pay the credit card bill without seeing it.
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2-3 dollars is nothing for me, but for someone another situation, I know on other games people say that can't support even on this small amount very month.
 
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Obranyi said:
Free money only because people continue to support, so they like this attitude and I have more questions to them, not to Dev.
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That doesn't help but the fact is that without support most of this stuff would never be made. The issue is - and I think what you rightfully focus on - the people that don't pull support when it's obvious that the dev is milking. When they do jack shit and still get your monthly payment. Those people need to wake the fuck up.
 
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AlfredBundy4 said:
That doesn't help but the fact is that without support most of this stuff would never be made. The issue is - and I think what you rightfully focus on - the people that don't pull support when it's obvious that the dev is milking. When they do jack shit and still get your monthly payment. Those people need to wake the fuck up.
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Paypigs would rather get uppity when confronted with the truth than stop paying.
 
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Listen, I followed a Dev who recently faked their own death for the second time. There is absolutely no way I will believe ANY excuses now for slow progress, little/no transparency and complete lack of respect for the people who support the work financially. His patreon might be filled with posts about how much work he's doing but the last time I checked the posts were about 2 months out from each other and gave away nothing but "I decided to spend time re-rendering clothes in the closet.

I said it once, I'll say it again, I hate Stoper with a passion. He is one of the laziest, excuse-ridden devs I've ever come across. I have been part of this community for nearly 8 years and I have to say there are echoes of devs who have abandoned projects within his posts and his releases. It's been almost a year since the last update and I can guarantee you all now that when/IF we get an update there will be about 10/15 minutes of gameplay at best.

There is nothing anyone can say to change my mind about this guy and that will never change.
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Agree with you 100 percent, here we have what should be a great game with so many possibilities, and all you ever see is the same old lesbo and conner shit, all one needs is to look at how long it takes to get an update from this dev and it seems anymore you do not even get a complete update and I would never support this shit when dev has a shit work ethic and can not even be straight with his supporters, instead he would rather lie and make up excuses.
 
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