VN Ren'Py Jessica O'Neil's Hard News [v0.65] [stoperArt]

[Boshic]

So who created the thread? Because the first post is from ... stoper. Surprise!!!!
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Or is it that a moderator impersonates stoper to create the thread?
Am I retarded? I do not know. Mind you, I'm not blind.
This reminds me of the use of p2p. When someone unknown used it, everything was perfect. When that stranger becomes famous, he repudiates p2p.
I call that hypocrisy.
Regards.

you're cool

 

[Y.Gromov]

stoper I can’t and I’m not going to tell you what to do and what not to do. Everything is very simple: many people did not get what they expected, but we are people, we can express our criticism, whatever he is true or false. No need to respond to harsh remarks. Most of us are here because we love your work. I expressed my opinion even before the update, after your post, but this is just an opinion. I repeat: that neither I nor anyone else is right to dictate what you need to do.
Take it easier. Good luck in your work. With all respect.

 

[cold_arctus]

cold_arctus

I saw the edit, I'm at WWW over 20 years. But it doesn't matter, he opened this thread in piracy forum to promote his game - nuff said!

He can't open the thread here and wonder about critism - If he is not okay with this, don't open this thread here or just tolerate the critic posts. Easy!

So who created the thread? Because the first post is from ... stoper. Surprise!!!!
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Or is it that a moderator impersonates stoper to create the thread?
Am I retarded? I do not know. Mind you, I'm not blind.
Regards.

I shared the initial, free version of my game. That's where my responsibility to this topic ends.

Stoper said it himself: He created the initial post for his demo/free version. After that F95's mods took over OP. Since then F95 is responsible for OP.

Right now he doesn't have the right permission to change OP without F95's mods approval. Otherwise Stoper could have deleted OP a long time ago.

stoper To avoid confusion I would recommend to you to get in touch with Sam or anyone else from F95 to replace you with F95's bot account for OP.

The dev-team I'm working with did the same after Patreon started to suspend Dev-accounts on Patreon for "being responsible for a game thread on F95".

 

[stoper]

cold_arctus
He can't open the thread here and wonder about critism - If he is not okay with this, don't open this thread here or just tolerate the critic posts. Easy!

Again, never said anything against criticism or piracy. At least read a few posts before bitching about something.
And what criticism? The only complain I see is that the update is very short. Because the update is very short, duh!

 

[defd©™]

this version is a fake!
I got a lot of errors

 

[hax]

I explained what I was referring to with my comment, won't do it again. It's not my fault that you people can't read a few pages of short forum posts.

I shared the initial, free version of my game. That's where my responsibility to this topic ends.

Dude you shared your game n a "piracy" forum of adult games so xd theres no point in complaining because you already knew your game would get leaked as well here... anyway I understand people tha complain and get it for free and your side but at least me... I do support the games I really enjoy and I started by playing them here for free... thake at least some comments ubto consideration and keep doing your thing.. this is still above average when it comes to quality so the product is good. Keep it going

 

[sakuyas_mmaster]

Can't you people just wank your dicks in silence instead of bitching about games you pirated in every damn thread?

 

[JokerLeader]

Could be my memory is corrupted, but i don't seem to find the new scene. I continued my last autosave, which is the same last choice like it is now. I started a new game and played it all again, don't seem i found anything new( again could be my memory).
Took a look at the walkthrough 0.30v and my last choice is the same as in the WT.

So could someone point me to how or where to find the new scene, perhaps with a vague description?

Thanks

If you have the date with Parker the only scene after is Jessica cover her boyfriend and then she goes to bad, that's it.

If you didn't go to the date with Parker and are on Heather Route, you go to her home and have a scene with her and her husband.

That's the only routes that i did and the only scenes that i saw that this update bring.

 

[asgardtipar2]

So there is no new content at all? After the parker Scene she goes home, sleeps and that is it?

 

[Blayo]

Wow... this thread is full of illiterate people...

Anyways, thanks stoper for the update, beautiful stuff as always. Can't wait for more.

 

[WuzzyFuzzy]

So there is no new content at all? After the parker Scene she goes home, sleeps and that is it?

I thought so, too, at first. That's the route I'm taking and there's no new scene in that route. However, if you go back a bit and decline Parker's invitation for the date, Jessica will hang out with her neighbors instead. That's the new scene...very nice one, too.

 

[asgardtipar2]

I thought so, too, at first. That's the route I'm taking and there's no new scene in that route. However, if you go back a bit and decline Parker's invitation for the date, Jessica will hang out with her neighbors instead. That's the new scene...very nice one, too.

I know, I figured that too.. But for how long this was you know made... The update is underwhelming to say the least.

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

I know, I figured that too.. But for how long this was you know made... The update is underwhelming to say the least.

I've known for some time, just read the forum and follow the news that gave us stoper; he always said that the work was late due to his second project, and that there would be this small update.
we must learn to read and not throw ourselves into discussions without knowing the past.

 

[FluffyStudio]

Can't you people just wank your dicks in silence instead of bitching about games you pirated in every damn thread?

Yes, what he said.

 

[BruceLee73]

so... this thread is fun... I guess

 

[defd©™]

this update is just the end of day9.... mmm
the game started in July 2018
now we are near 2 years celebration... and only 9 days was developed...

...this is not good for me.. I can't support this game... is too much for my budget,
more than 200 dollars (if 10 dollar/month subscription for just 9 days?)
I think it is a very expansive game.
It comes with very good renders and characters are great...

maybe i will support for 1 month or 2 when the game will be at least in the 25th day
in the 2023

Thanks anyway

 

[JokerLeader]

So there is no new content at all? After the parker Scene she goes home, sleeps and that is it?

If you have the date with Parker the only scene after is Jessica cover her boyfriend and then she goes to bad, that's it.

If you didn't go to the date with Parker and are on Heather Route, you go to her home and have a scene with her and her husband.

That's the only routes that i did and the only scenes that i saw that this update bring.

 

[defd©™]

After reading the last few pages, I'm glad I haven't jumped into game development.
For starters, stoper explicitly outlined how short his update would be. He knew that some people would be disappointed, and preemptively attempted to lower the expectations. He DOES NOT have an obligation to update the changelog, or repeat himself countless of times to appease lazy and seemingly illiterate lurkers.
Stoper is one of the few developers out here who seems to be open to constructive criticism and feedback from F95 members. He understands that piracy is outside of his control, and to the best of my knowledge, has not attempted prevent or disrupt the sharing of his game updates on the forum (like DecentMonkey did recently).
If you felt that the update was underwhelming, that's a fair and reasonable point. You'd just need to put it into context: Since the last update, stoper was hired to work on a Lesson of Passion game, which took his focus away from JOHN. Moreover, he and Dantes worked on Paola, a completely new project. JOHN became a casualty of these circumstances.
I'll never begrudge someone for prioritizing paid work over something that's more akin to a hobby (even with Patrons involved). If he properly communicated this fact to his Patrons, then he's okay in my book. If he kept promising wonderful updates that would never materialize in order to keep the cash flow going (which I doubt), then that's not cool.
I haven't played the update yet. Maybe I'll be disappointed like you guys are, but if I have any criticisms, I'll attempt to phrase them in a way that keeps the conversation going. Saying "you're a milker" is not constructive feedback (aside from being factually incorrect) - it's an attack on character, and marks the end of a creator's engagement.
Patrons of this game are perfectly aware of stoper's release schedule, and they're free to decide whether it suits their needs or not. If they're unhappy with the product provided or if they think their money will be better spent elsewhere, they'll withdraw their support. But let's not forget that without Patrons, the game would probably come to a stop.
From my point of view, the only questionable thing that stoper said is that we have "stolen" his work. This implies that we stole the potential earnings he would have made, which is not true. Piracy is NOT theft, especially if there was never any intention of providing financial support to begin with. Only a small minority of pirates ever become Patrons.
This is all to say that everyone needs to take a step back and relax. Pirates will keep doing what they do (regardless of shaming language), and creators will keep creating until it ceases to be personally or financially rewarding. And when that happens, new creators will come into the fold. That's the circle of life, so let's not blow things out of proportion.

1) the "piracy" is a way to promote your work
(if they want promote with banners they will require a lot of money)
so "piracy" is a way to promote for free your game
2) of course developers can do whatever they want...
(but also the supporters can do that)
3) I also don't like people that complain about this or that
4) An Artist requires his time to make a good a game

5) THE DEV CANNOT SELL AN INCOMPLETE GAME! (this point is very important

(but there are a lot of DEV that just publish a game with only 2 or 3 days of the story)

I think that a good game maker should be publish a game when at least 1/3 or half of the story is ready...

But instead there are a lot of them that publish as fast is possible to get patreon subscriptions and after they start to go SLOWWWW
VERY SLOWWW
more slow = more money

and also a lot of them declaring abandoned their work in order to make money without doing nothing...

I'm not complain with stoper
this game is great
but i would be glad to see more effort to continue this great story instad starting new stories...

Starting a good story is relatively much easy to complete the story that must remain good
because in the start you can do all the way you want...
but finish a story is very difficukt and requires a GREAT SKILL.

I hope that Jessica will be update more often... than i will be glad to support again.




Thanks

 

[defd©™]

If you have the date with Parker the only scene after is Jessica cover her boyfriend and then she goes to bad, that's it.

If you didn't go to the date with Parker and are on Heather Route, you go to her home and have a scene with her and her husband.

That's the only routes that i did and the only scenes that i saw that this update bring.

yes the day 9 was incomplete in the 0.30
with 0.31 there is the end of the day 9... and the day 10 stars

that's all and it is very poor update but ok thanks

usually it should be 1 complete day... but now
0.30 is half of 9 day
and 0.31 is the end of day 9

so the version 032 will be the start of day 10?

 

[JamesVik]

What was the point of releasing such a short update after couple of months of wait?