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TeamEquipe

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But if you go down the route of incest between Jessica and her mother, Patreon will make Stoper change her name from Mom to "Landlady" and her sister will become "Roommate"
Just sayin' :cool:
 

Ara-sH

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Jun 4, 2017
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But if you go down the route of incest between Jessica and her mother, Patreon will make Stoper change her name from Mom to "Landlady" and her sister will become "Roommate"
Just sayin' :cool:
not about incest, But seriously we dont see any action with that crazy hot milf mom?
 
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mma456

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not about incest, But seriously we dont see any action with that crazy hot milf mom?
We will eventually witness something about the single hot milf for sure, she has been frequently visiting some dude which according to her is for business :HideThePain:
Only question is how long till we even get there or will we even get there, because chances are stoper may rush through some content to get the plot moving faster.
 

Yossarian1

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Why this game isn't more popular and hasn't more patrons?

1. Lack of promotion and marketing:

- It would be easy to say that this game isn't more popular because it hasn't incest and has a female protagonist, but some other games have those same qualities and they receive a lot more patronage. That's the case of Fashion Business. Why is that? Despite of the differences in popularity in F95ZONE are not that huge, FB is above 4M views and this one is above 3M, the differences in Patreon are enormous: stoper has 420 patrons and decent-monkey has 1528 patrons, almost 4 times more. And the earnings could be 6 or 7 times more, DM offers an extra version only for patreons and he has patreon levels till $50, stoper only till $25.

One of the reasons is that meanwhile DM has a webpage of his game and has a russian public which download it in russian forums and web pages too, it seems that JOHN is promoted almost only here, depends mostly of this thread. And stoper doesn't seem to pay too much attention for increasing its visibility. The game is translated into spanish, great. But is it reaching the hispanic public? Is it being promoted in hispanic sex game forums? Are there a big hispanic sex games public? We already now that the russians are a huge public, an investement in a russian translation would be proper.

- Stoper doesn't show preview renders of the updates. Why? Meanwhile DM shows one preview render of the next update per week, stoper only shares random images. I have read comments like: "Seeing those previews I'm decided to become a patreon". Besides, showing previews mantains the public hooked in the story, they will make comments in the thread about that and it will be more active, then more views, more new players. Showing previews doesn't mean make spoilers necessarily. For example, we already know that Heather and Jessica will meet in the fitness center next time, you could show a preview of that and you are not spoiling nothing.

- Stoper underestimates basic things like how is the game presented to new players. In the OP, the banner, for example, isn't suggestive, it doesn't insinuate an erotic VN, it looks more from a drama one. There are staff members here who make banners for free, just ask one of them. The selection of previews is poor too, only four random images and they don't tell you much. Basically you are not creating expectation through them. Showing nudity isn't mandatory, but at least show sexy images, close-ups and intimacy. Show more girls, Jessica with different looks and try not to put long shots. Use images that insinuates something according to the game tags: voyeurism, lesbian, cheating, etc. Many people start to play a game just because they saw an image or a character they liked.
For example:
View attachment 740229 View attachment 740219 View attachment 739012 View attachment 738994 View attachment 738990 View attachment 739848

Put all the fan signatures in the OP, so more people can use them. Sometimes I play a new game just because I saw a signature for another user.

To be continued...
I agree with you one hundred percent!
 

mma456

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Dec 2, 2018
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Why this game isn't more popular and hasn't more patrons?

1. Lack of promotion and marketing:

- It would be easy to say that this game isn't more popular because it hasn't incest and has a female protagonist, but some other games have those same qualities and they receive a lot more patronage. That's the case of Fashion Business. Why is that? Despite of the differences in popularity in F95ZONE are not that huge, FB is above 4M views and this one is above 3M, the differences in Patreon are enormous: stoper has 420 patrons and decent-monkey has 1528 patrons, almost 4 times more. And the earnings could be 6 or 7 times more, DM offers an extra version only for patreons and he has patreon levels till $50, stoper only till $25.

One of the reasons is that meanwhile DM has a webpage of his game and has a russian public which download it in russian forums and web pages too, it seems that JOHN is promoted almost only here, depends mostly of this thread. And stoper doesn't seem to pay too much attention for increasing its visibility. The game is translated into spanish, great. But is it reaching the hispanic public? Is it being promoted in hispanic sex game forums? Are there a big hispanic sex games public? We already now that the russians are a huge public, an investement in a russian translation would be proper.

- Stoper doesn't show preview renders of the updates. Why? Meanwhile DM shows one preview render of the next update per week, stoper only shares random images. I have read comments like: "Seeing those previews I'm decided to become a patreon". Besides, showing previews mantains the public hooked in the story, they will make comments in the thread about that and it will be more active, then more views, more new players. Showing previews doesn't mean make spoilers necessarily. For example, we already know that Heather and Jessica will meet in the fitness center next time, you could show a preview of that and you are not spoiling nothing.

- Stoper underestimates basic things like how is the game presented to new players. In the OP, the banner, for example, isn't suggestive, it doesn't insinuate an erotic VN, it looks more from a drama one. There are staff members here who make banners for free, just ask one of them. The selection of previews is poor too, only four random images and they don't tell you much. Basically you are not creating expectation through them. Showing nudity isn't mandatory, but at least show sexy images, close-ups and intimacy. Show more girls, Jessica with different looks and try not to put long shots. Use images that insinuates something according to the game tags: voyeurism, lesbian, cheating, etc. Many people start to play a game just because they saw an image or a character they liked.
For example:
View attachment 740229 View attachment 740219 View attachment 739012 View attachment 738994 View attachment 738990 View attachment 739848

Put all the fan signatures in the OP, so more people can use them. Sometimes I play a new game just because I saw a signature for another user.

To be continued...
All of that is perfectly on point, I've always asked why hasn't the op been updated since the start of the game itself to show all the spicy stuff but instead still has the same random 4 images, changing or adding some spicy images in the op will go such a long way to get new people interested in the game on first glance.
Then when it comes to actual update previews, they would go a long way getting people excited for the update and would end any kind of frustration people have regarding update time or update delays, because you at least know what you're getting instead of waiting half a year with no knowledge or idea of anything.
 

Kale2222

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ashitanojoe My patreon home page is due for a refresh, I agree. Other than that, I've never been much of a seller. Whoever finds the game, finds it. The rest can play everything else.
you need to advertise with you tube our porn hub our any bid steaming site you're game is one of the best game on this site
 
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armion82

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Why this game isn't more popular and hasn't more patrons?

1. Lack of promotion and marketing:

- It would be easy to say that this game isn't more popular because it hasn't incest and has a female protagonist, but some other games have those same qualities and they receive a lot more patronage. That's the case of Fashion Business. Why is that? Despite of the differences in popularity in F95ZONE are not that huge, FB is above 4M views and this one is above 3M, the differences in Patreon are enormous: stoper has 420 patrons and decent-monkey has 1528 patrons, almost 4 times more. And the earnings could be 6 or 7 times more, DM offers an extra version only for patreons and he has patreon levels till $50, stoper only till $25.

One of the reasons is that meanwhile DM has a webpage of his game and has a russian public which download it in russian forums and web pages too, it seems that JOHN is promoted almost only here, depends mostly of this thread. And stoper doesn't seem to pay too much attention for increasing its visibility. The game is translated into spanish, great. But is it reaching the hispanic public? Is it being promoted in hispanic sex game forums? Are there a big hispanic sex games public? We already now that the russians are a huge public, an investement in a russian translation would be proper.

- Stoper doesn't show preview renders of the updates. Why? Meanwhile DM shows one preview render of the next update per week, stoper only shares random images. I have read comments like: "Seeing those previews I'm decided to become a patreon". Besides, showing previews mantains the public hooked in the story, they will make comments in the thread about that and it will be more active, then more views, more new players. Showing previews doesn't mean make spoilers necessarily. For example, we already know that Heather and Jessica will meet in the fitness center next time, you could show a preview of that and you are not spoiling nothing.

- Stoper underestimates basic things like how is the game presented to new players. In the OP, the banner, for example, isn't suggestive, it doesn't insinuate an erotic VN, it looks more from a drama one. There are staff members here who make banners for free, just ask one of them. The selection of previews is poor too, only four random images and they don't tell you much. Basically you are not creating expectation through them. Showing nudity isn't mandatory, but at least show sexy images, close-ups and intimacy. Show more girls, Jessica with different looks and try not to put long shots. Use images that insinuates something according to the game tags: voyeurism, lesbian, cheating, etc. Many people start to play a game just because they saw an image or a character they liked.
For example:
View attachment 740229 View attachment 740219 View attachment 739012 View attachment 738994 View attachment 738990 View attachment 739848

Put all the fan signatures in the OP, so more people can use them. Sometimes I play a new game just because I saw a signature for another user.

To be continued...
The huge jump in patrons for DM starts with second episode of his game.And not even from the start.Big reason is also that Monica is already having sex with more than 1 man.She is not Anna's level but already surpass her popularity.
Another thing is players really like when you can broke a bad girl.And let's be real-Monica is synonym to bitch.
With Jessica there will be no such thing at all.
 
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Creeping Death

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you need to advertise with you tube our porn hub our any bid steaming site you're game is one of the best game on this site
Some hacker should promote it like the Xev Bellringer road sign incident (that's a joke, I don't instigate anyone for criminal acts!). But no doubt, in quality etc. this game could be number one in the porn game world (next to ORS). So let's nominate stoper and evakiss for king and queen of porn vn land ;)

The hot mom maybe could get into Connors' focus, drama drama, when he (we) finds out Jess is cheating on him (us) and he (we) are not open minded, as a retaliation, he seduces mommy?! Although I would love to see some gentle, innocent, all dudes go crazy teasing between Jess and sis :love: And maybe we will see someday one of the holy grails, a mother daughter threesome with Connor (and if they are drunk maybe some touchy touchy between them :love:). damn...

To quote Johnny Five: "MORE INPUT!"

 
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Junkey

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if u are 1 of his patrons, then u have the right to speak. if not then, SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
If you haven't bought a game - DON't criticize it.
If you haven't bought a movie - DON't criticize it.
If you haven't bought a car - DON't criticize it.
If you haven't bought a paid subscription to a streamer - DON't criticize their behavior and actions.

Excellent logic.
 
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