VN Ren'Py Jessica O'Neil's Hard News [v0.65] [stoperArt]

[NextQuestion]

And people still shit on the number of renders produced for Wife and Mother. The last update had almost 1000 renders and got released faster than JOHN. I still dislike the brain dead teasing in that game but quality and quantity in renders definitely nothing to complain about compared to this. I remember good old times when we had 250-300 renders every 2-3months but why would he release 4 updates a year when he can 2 with no one dropping patreon.

 

[mma456]

In day 11 (0.40-0.41) there are 668 renders (about 30% more than biggest update before this).

You need to understand that counting animation renders along with normal renders is not the same thing, no developer presents them as the same in their changelog and neither does stoper. At best the last update only had 350 renders.

 

[Geko1711]

believe me or not, at least August

You're right only that in August there are summer vacations and in my opinion where I assume Stoper lives we will talk as I had previously said in September

 

[hax]

Awam #2

 

[Jozef Minge]

And people still shit on the number of renders produced for Wife and Mother. The last update had almost 1000 renders and got released faster than JOHN. I still dislike the brain dead teasing in that game but quality and quantity in renders definitely nothing to complain about compared to this. I remember good old times when we had 250-300 renders every 2-3months but why would he release 4 updates a year when he can 2 with no one dropping patreon.

I don't want to compare, because I'm enjoying the both games! Metallica and Megadeth are competitive trash-metal bands. Metallica are not the better musicians, but they are the better band! They have the best transition of metal music! Not most complex sound, not with high skill level of playing, no... The have the best sounding ones!
It is not necessary to create a thousand renders to build the tension, to make spicy scene, to making a good game! It's about stile - L&P is more detailed, more explanatory, which sometimes makes him little bit boring! Stoper is much more specific, accurate and mature! The both are great games, the both developers has their styles and I enjoying their work! Shakespeare is used 160 000 words fo his works, Tolstoy more than 300 000! I'm also impatient for next releases of JOHN, but it is what it is!

 

[LongoMcFap]

penis mega hard and no update. penis sad.

 

[lockerxx]

300 renders for 6months is shit

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No
sad news but i can wait 2 more weeks if we get sometihng like this

 

[umby]

the update comes in beta in which the last scene is incomplete

if so he would have done it now. if he hasn't done so it means that the update is really far behind with the work. I was too optimistic with the date of July 15, inside me the forecasts are much worse. we are wasting time to make an update but what I cannot accept is to say that the work is progressing well, making you wait 6 months and hiding every detail on the true state of the work. Let's be clear he is not the only one to make small updates in 6 months and unfortunately those like him are increasing. stoper says he is stubborn in certain scenes but in reality I don't see anything particular and complex in the scenes he makes at least no more complex than other games of the same type.

 

[cold_arctus]

we are wasting time to make an update but what I cannot accept is to say that the work is progressing well

"We are wasting time"? Not sure about you, but I don't sit around and wait for an update.

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Hi, everyone.
Just a quick word to say that I'm working on the last scene of the update. There's more to do, but I'm progressing with a good pace. Don't expect the update before the last days of the month though. The good news is that it's coming up nicely, I'm happy with the scenes in it.

Last week he mentioned that he works on the last scene. We don't know what the scene is about and how "complex" it is to set up.

He was progressing in a good pace until he hit a wall between blog #86 and latest blog #86. We don't know what happened there, but he is going to elaborate - after the release of the update.

making you wait 6 months and hiding every detail on the true state of the work

He is not obligated to report anything to his supporters. There are many devs who don't release any kind of development report, some of them earn much, much more then Stoper.

stoper says he is stubborn in certain scenes but in reality I don't see anything particular and complex in the scenes he makes at least no more complex than other games of the same type.

Correct. You don't see any complexity in renders, because you are not a photographer, 3d artist, etc. I guess you never tried to make a render yourself using DAZ and DAZ assets. Please try it and then come back and tell us how it isn't complex and easy to pose characters with different assets attached.

Don't get me wrong, I know English isn't your native language and that the translation probably makes your post sound more pessimistic than intended.

 

[armion82]

300 renders for 6months is shit

Well we have games with more than 1000 renders for an update that give us less real content than updates with 200-300 renders.
It is exactly same thing as card games.You get a new set with 300+cards,but that update introduce less playable cards than a set with less than 100 cards.

 

[cold_arctus]

everyone has their own development times based on what they want to create and I would do well to admit that their development times are long, very long. this was the meaning of my words.

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with you on that topic. Let's be honest: Stoper is slow as fuck and he knows that himself.

Same as you, I knew that he won't make it until end of June. He has a history of delays and "bad" planning for release dates. But "veterans" like us know that and don't give a fuck about release dates anymore.

 

[umby]

Don't get me wrong, I fully agree with you on that topic. Let's be honest: Stoper is slow as fuck and he knows that himself.

Same as you, I knew that he won't make it until end of June. He has a history of delays and "bad" planning for release dates. But "veterans" like us know that and don't give a fuck about release dates anymore.

I also want to reveal to you that I have purchased all its updates, I know unfortunately in the end I can't resist, however I fear that once it has broken the "launch window" it may even take another month.

 

[Bolero]

The real update was at the beginning of January so the months are already six and in my opinion it will not be ready even in July and renderings do not exceed 200.

True about the 6 months since release, but honestly i think, or hope it will be released in july, probably somewhere in the middle of it.
It would be too much even for patient fans if he misses July, and to me personally it would be too much if it is not out in the first half of July. Ok now i will try to not talk about the release anymore, i am sure some people could find it annoying, i am just too big of a fan of this game and stoper´s work.

 

[Bolero]

"We are wasting time"? Not sure about you, but I don't sit around and wait for an update.

This genuinely made me laugh out loud.

 

[pochops]

Fashion Business is absolutely not a cheating game, unless you count the fact that Betty is cheating on her husband, Ralph. But I wouldn't count that as making it a cheating game, since Betty and Ralph are just supporting characters, and there are only a few scenes of her cheating.

Don't get me wrong. I think that Fashion Business is a pretty good game, with tons of erotic content in it, despite the fact that it's a horrible grindfest of a sandbox game. But to list it as a cheating game seems completely incorrect to me.

Office Wife, on the other hand, definitely has cheating in it, in addition to the hotwifing and cuckolding. I dislike cuckolding, as a general rule of thumb, but that game has enough content which I really like to keep me coming back for more.

Thanks. Also now knowing that Fashion Business is a grindfest sandbox game is a turn off for me. Maybe I'll revisit Office Wife. I recall there was something about it I didn't like. Some magic or spell affecting the wife or some shit. Maybe I'm wrong. Generally, I'm not into mind control or coercion of women. What I love about JOHN besides the cheating is she is in control of her decisions. She decides whether to seduce Mr. Parker or not, as opposed to being manipulated herself. She is the slutty hero, as opposed to a helpless victim.

 

[TheLecher]

Thanks. Also now knowing that Fashion Business is a grindfest sandbox game is a turn off for me. Maybe I'll revisit Office Wife. I recall there was something about it I didn't like. Some magic or spell affecting the wife or some shit. Maybe I'm wrong. Generally, I'm not into mind control or coercion of women. What I love about JOHN besides the cheating is she is in control of her decisions. She decides whether to seduce Mr. Parker or not, as opposed to being manipulated herself. She is the slutty hero, as opposed to a helpless victim.

If you're not into coercion of women, then that's another reason for you to avoid Fashion Business. Various types of coercion of the female MC is pretty much the entire focus of the game.

As for Office Wife, yes, there is magic affecting the wife. She receives a magical pendant which begins to ramp her sex drive up to crazy levels when she wears it. However, while she suspects that it may be pushing her to do things which she normally wouldn't do, the game makes it clear that she likes the new version of herself and she doesn't want it to stop. There are moments when she freaks out about the pendant and wants to get rid of it, but she mostly likes how things are changing for her. Hopefully, that's enough info for you to decide whether or not it's your thing.

 

[pochops]

If you're not into coercion of women, then that's another reason for you to avoid Fashion Business. Various types of coercion of the female MC is pretty much the entire focus of the game.

As for Office Wife, yes, there is magic affecting the wife. She receives a magical pendant which begins to ramp her sex drive up to crazy levels when she wears it. However, while she suspects that it may be pushing her to do things which she normally wouldn't do, the game makes it clear that she likes the new version of herself and she doesn't want it to stop. There are moments when she freaks out about the pendant and wants to get rid of it, but she mostly likes how things are changing for her. Hopefully, that's enough info for you to decide whether or not it's your thing.

Yeah, I'm going to give Office Wife another chance. I recall giving up on it pretty quickly. Regarding Fashion Business, that's exactly what I don't like. I don't mind a little blackmail or coercion. I want the hero to face some obstacles. But if it's the entire focus of the game and the mc is primarily a victim, then I can't get into it.

 

[TheLecher]

Regarding Fashion Business, that's exactly what I don't like. I don't mind a little blackmail or coercion. I want the hero to face some obstacles. But if it's the entire focus of the game and the mc is primarily a victim, then I can't get into it.

Fair enough. Everyone has their likes and dislikes, and life is much too short to waste time on games you aren't going to enjoy.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

Office Wife is the Little Game That Could. It feels like it's greater than the sum of its parts. Using RPGM was a bad choice IMO but the game just works really well. I really like the MC because it does feel like she's enjoying her new attitude. I haven't played the last few updates, and I hope things don't go too far, but I think it's a sexfest of a game that actually works well.

 

[TheLecher]

Office Wife is the Little Game That Could. It feels like it's greater than the sum of its parts. Using RPGM was a bad choice IMO but the game just works really well. I really like the MC because it does feel like she's enjoying her new attitude. I haven't played the last few updates, and I hope things don't go too far, but I think it's a sexfest of a game that actually works well.

I'm not sure what you would consider "too far", but I would say that the last couple of updates are definitely taking things much further, in pretty much every respect.

As for RPGM, I suppose that I'm probably in the minority on this forum, and very probably in the minority in this thread, but I've always preferred RPGM to Ren'Py. But there are good games on multiple engines, and I don't want to limit myself.

Edit: I somewhat agree with the remark that Office Wife feels like it's better than just the quality of its various components.