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- Dec 2, 2018
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The Last Scene? But isn't that the ONLY Scene in the upcoming update?
- Dec 30, 2020
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yeah it is, stoped said it himself, other scenes are just a build-up to future events, but yeah, this guy really is a clown, i am so glad i gave up supporting his patreon a long time ago, so much for "no side project this time so the update should be faster" but in the end it turns out that there is only 1 event which took him 5 months
also, after this guy trashed L&P in AWAM thread this whole thing is even funnierit's a fun exercise getting his posts from that thread and posting them hereyeah it is, stoped said it himself, other scenes are just a build-up to future events, but yeah, this guy really is a clown, i am so glad i gave up supporting his patreon a long time ago, so much for "no side project this time so the update should be faster" but in the end it turns out that there is only 1 event which took him 5 months
fits perfectly
- Jan 20, 2018
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With every new comment update we find that the update is even further away from release than what we thought.
Who knows if he makes it in January either, and i am not even trying to be funny or flame him.
Guys I told u. He's busy making awam. L&P and Stoperart. XD. I guess it's time for "abandoned" tag ?
- Mar 25, 2019
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Here for about two years now can confirmWaiting period
First phrase - When is the update coming out? Any update news??
Second phrase - Scammer, Milk, Update ??? X 100 in various tones, fan boys vs haters - I fight you / you fight me = threads deleted, abandon tag, This is such a good game but poor work ethics / what a shame, if only this / if only that
Release period
Third phrase - We need a hero, android version please, not worth the wait, 5 mins of game play, lesbian again? we want more Parker , see you in 5 months time
Repeat, vicious cycle, time loop, never ending.
- May 27, 2017
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I want to be honest . Stoper is not the only one who is so slow in making these games, unfortunately it is very common and others do really worse. What is different about jessica's game compared to the others? Unfortunately it pains me to say it but the difference is that in other developers that take 6 months you can potentially see the scenes, even if they are not very long as updates, however, they do not fail to entertain from this point of view. In jessica's game, on the other hand, you find yourself a slew of renders and a multiple choice scene with animations. Too little given the wait, it is not a criticism of his work but in doing so it is much better for him to make a comic in order to better optimize his way of working.
6 Month for 2 Scenes...sorry but lol
Multiple Choice? Cmon...Second option means no scene. thats the "multiple" choice. Otherwise there a max 2-3 more pictures.
Multiple Choice? Cmon...Second option means no scene. thats the "multiple" choice. Otherwise there a max 2-3 more pictures.
- Oct 26, 2017
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its getting redicules. all thes guys are milking people for every penny. people need to stop givingthem their hard earned money and youll see how fastthe updates come
- Mar 28, 2017
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If that was the case we will have at least 5 000 games with updates at least once each month.
Guess what-we are not even close to that.
Au contaraire to what you might think-faster updates don't bring more patrons/more money.
- Dec 2, 2018
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Hi, everyone.
I won't be able to finish the update before the end of the year. It was clear that I won't make it several days ago, but I didn't want to deliver a bad news on Christmas. Now I'm ruining the upcoming New Year's Eve instead
The last scene I'm working on is a bit complex, it has 3 different part. And that basically makes it as big as 3 different scenes. I'm trying to cover the different playstyles - faithful, cheating lesbian and cheating straight. So yeah, gonna need some more time.
As always, when the update is ready I'll send it to the respective tiers from December. This happens when I give some release month projection. Which, in case you're new here, happens way too often, especially this year.
2021 has been a letdown. The work was going really hard and slow, nothing worked as it should have. I'm happy with the quality of the released content, but obviously the quantity is seriously lacking. So I want to thank everyone who stuck up with me and kept supporting my work, it's hard to express with words how much I appreciate it. So here's for a much better 2022.
- Jan 3, 2019
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This was foreseen. Well, let him do everything right, we'll wait.View attachment 1565866
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Hi, everyone.
I won't be able to finish the update before the end of the year. It was clear that I won't make it several days ago, but I didn't want to deliver a bad news on Christmas. Now I'm ruining the upcoming New Year's Eve instead
The last scene I'm working on is a bit complex, it has 3 different part. And that basically makes it as big as 3 different scenes. I'm trying to cover the different playstyles - faithful, cheating lesbian and cheating straight. So yeah, gonna need some more time.
As always, when the update is ready I'll send it to the respective tiers from December. This happens when I give some release month projection. Which, in case you're new here, happens way too often, especially this year.
2021 has been a letdown. The work was going really hard and slow, nothing worked as it should have. I'm happy with the quality of the released content, but obviously the quantity is seriously lacking. So I want to thank everyone who stuck up with me and kept supporting my work, it's hard to express with words how much I appreciate it. So here's for a much better 2022.
- Aug 23, 2020
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At minimum it's nice that he expressed his frustrations and disappointments. Too many devs would try to play it off or shrug off any responsibility. Stoper clearly cares and is unhappy with the quantity of his output. For that reason I'll cut him slack, I really do think he's a good guy who's just in over his head.View attachment 1565866
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Hi, everyone.
I won't be able to finish the update before the end of the year. It was clear that I won't make it several days ago, but I didn't want to deliver a bad news on Christmas. Now I'm ruining the upcoming New Year's Eve instead
The last scene I'm working on is a bit complex, it has 3 different part. And that basically makes it as big as 3 different scenes. I'm trying to cover the different playstyles - faithful, cheating lesbian and cheating straight. So yeah, gonna need some more time.
As always, when the update is ready I'll send it to the respective tiers from December. This happens when I give some release month projection. Which, in case you're new here, happens way too often, especially this year.
2021 has been a letdown. The work was going really hard and slow, nothing worked as it should have. I'm happy with the quality of the released content, but obviously the quantity is seriously lacking. So I want to thank everyone who stuck up with me and kept supporting my work, it's hard to express with words how much I appreciate it. So here's for a much better 2022.
But from a technical aspect, the very structure of the final scene is a massive red flag. Considering how late this update is, and how small it will be, the fact that this one scene is so complex and burdensome is a major problem. In the AWAM thread, I often talk about how L&P is reaching the point of diminishing returns, but Stoper may be worse- her may be at a point of negative returns. He's putting more and more effort into this one scene, and all it has done is hurt the overall product. We're months late for an update that has been scaled back drastically. We're barely getting half a day, and there's only one real scene. Giving us three routes through it is an odd choice IMO, it's hard to write and will add very little to the playthrough.
IMO this is a combination of sunk cost fallacy AND negative returns. He would have been better off months ago reevaluating the scope of this update and starting from scratch. Whatever his vision for this update was, it has gone completely off the rails. He either needed to start over, or cut his losses and push out an update and move on. Instead he's gotten so hung up on it that it feels like he's losing the forest through the trees.
Again, I really appreciate his honesty, but from a technical standpoint I feel like he's really lost.
When one adds Economics to Art, the art suffers, only the artist's pocket gets lined. I'd rather have Stoper keep hacking at it the same way. The quality of JOHN (Dev's side project) or AWAM (milker Dev) is unmatched anywhere on f95zone.
- Aug 23, 2020
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Great artists sometimes need help. Everyone sometimes needs help. Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can help bring things into focus. Stoper's art is not benefiting from this delay, it's suffering because he's overwhelmed. Reevaluating his plan will make his art better.
- Jul 3, 2021
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Well, can't say I'm surprised. Is this satisfying? Certainly not. Stoper's plan was a November release, then came the first delay to December, and now hopefully January. Nothing new here, though. It's basically what he's doing for the past couple updates, only that it's getting worse. And if that wasn't frustrating enough, we're not only looking at a 2+ month delay, but also what seems to be ~25% of the usual update size.View attachment 1565866
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Hi, everyone.
I won't be able to finish the update before the end of the year. It was clear that I won't make it several days ago, but I didn't want to deliver a bad news on Christmas. Now I'm ruining the upcoming New Year's Eve instead
The last scene I'm working on is a bit complex, it has 3 different part. And that basically makes it as big as 3 different scenes. I'm trying to cover the different playstyles - faithful, cheating lesbian and cheating straight. So yeah, gonna need some more time.
As always, when the update is ready I'll send it to the respective tiers from December. This happens when I give some release month projection. Which, in case you're new here, happens way too often, especially this year.
2021 has been a letdown. The work was going really hard and slow, nothing worked as it should have. I'm happy with the quality of the released content, but obviously the quantity is seriously lacking. So I want to thank everyone who stuck up with me and kept supporting my work, it's hard to express with words how much I appreciate it. So here's for a much better 2022.
In terms of content, I'm assuming we're probably talking a quick shower after Jessica's returning home from the Parker event in the previous update, maybe some dialogue with whomever she''ll encounter at home (or on the phone), getting dressed for the night out followed by the 1 major event with Blake. Could be more in-between, but that's my wild guess.
I'm really hoping that we're not getting any more delays a la "Amanda the writer already went to bed", "Amanda the writer is still sleeping", "Amanda the writer and I encountered some issues", "Amanda is working on the writing and I decided to add a couple more renders". Some of y'all might remember what was going on in the last update and that Amanda's sleep schedule apparently is that of a hibernating brown bear.
Anyway, since we're back to comparing Stoper and L&P, let me tell you that Stoper is the much more likeable human being, able to see his own flaws, and even apologize to his Patrons if things don't go too well or according to plan. Something L&P is unable to do, as he's one of the most arrogant and egoistic developers I've encountered so far.
- May 27, 2017
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the question is: if you are working on this complex and impossible scene this month, what have you been working on the past few months?View attachment 1565866
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Hi, everyone.
I won't be able to finish the update before the end of the year. It was clear that I won't make it several days ago, but I didn't want to deliver a bad news on Christmas. Now I'm ruining the upcoming New Year's Eve instead
The last scene I'm working on is a bit complex, it has 3 different part. And that basically makes it as big as 3 different scenes. I'm trying to cover the different playstyles - faithful, cheating lesbian and cheating straight. So yeah, gonna need some more time.
As always, when the update is ready I'll send it to the respective tiers from December. This happens when I give some release month projection. Which, in case you're new here, happens way too often, especially this year.
2021 has been a letdown. The work was going really hard and slow, nothing worked as it should have. I'm happy with the quality of the released content, but obviously the quantity is seriously lacking. So I want to thank everyone who stuck up with me and kept supporting my work, it's hard to express with words how much I appreciate it. So here's for a much better 2022.