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neronx

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given that I don't want to defend stoper; but if you have to do the math in people's pockets at least do it well
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there are less than 1800 from which you have to remove % of patreon, VAT and taxes.

if it's so easy to make money off stupid people, why don't we all start starting a patreon page?
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ItsNotUs

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Here's a simple math for you - 300 renders per update and once a year, that's 1 picture once a day and about two months for polishing! :ROFLMAO: xd
And he wrote that he gets tired of creating one picture of "Jessica" per day, so he makes side mini stories, so the figure above is approximate!
 

MestoTesto

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I am calling out to the supporters who do not care about the one-year update cycle because they have a lot of money or financial income, and who support this sneaky developer despite everything.

There is definitely no promising development in this game. Moreover, there seems to be a developer trap that constantly lies and pretends to be active. You should give up the attitude of giving your money to this developer and not caring if it goes to waste.

Instead, try to support well-intentioned, constantly striving developers who are promising even if the story of the game does not suit you. Try something like this so that you have made a real contribution to the progress of this sector in the adult gaming world.

Instead of making a scammer happy, let your money that you do not care about be a hope for the future of determined, talented and well-intentioned people with limited opportunities.
 

DanThaMan

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Ey Captain, we are pirates, we are not paying, we are stealing, raping and killing! Maybe give your speech on another boat, maybe to the brits!?
You clearly know nothing and made yourself look stupid. Updates for this game are free for everyone when they are released so nobody is stealing and we are free to complain about the shitty workflow of the dev.
 

PietruccioTheHilander

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I am calling out to the supporters who do not care about the one-year update cycle because they have a lot of money or financial income, and who support this sneaky developer despite everything.

There is definitely no promising development in this game. Moreover, there seems to be a developer trap that constantly lies and pretends to be active. You should give up the attitude of giving your money to this developer and not caring if it goes to waste.

Instead, try to support well-intentioned, constantly striving developers who are promising even if the story of the game does not suit you. Try something like this so that you have made a real contribution to the progress of this sector in the adult gaming world.

Instead of making a scammer happy, let your money that you do not care about be a hope for the future of determined, talented and well-intentioned people with limited opportunities.
you're in the wrong place man, you should post it on his patreon, not here.
 

MestoTesto

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you're in the wrong place man, you should post it on his patreon, not here.
I don't agree that I wrote in the wrong place, my friend. Just like Stoper has an account on this site, I'm sure many of his supporters also have accounts here. Also, comments cannot be made without subscribing to the patreon's account. Still, I really thank you for your efforts to guide.

Also, I didn't intend to give people advice. In fact, my intention was just a well-intentioned reminder that the awareness situation needed to be reviewed. Please also remember that f95 is number one for developers in terms of promoting games and providing supporters.
 

L&P's Father-in-Law

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I am calling out to the supporters who do not care about the one-year update cycle because they have a lot of money or financial income, and who support this sneaky developer despite everything.
You would be surprised at how many people forget they have their pledge running.

Dude is just scamming at this point while pretending to be active and then working 1 month for a release.
 

Gunizz

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You would be surprised at how many people forget they have their pledge running.

Dude is just scamming at this point while pretending to be active and then working 1 month for a release.
I don't get this "scamming" thing. The game is released for free by Stoper, people supporting him know that (It's written on Patreon). They also know he's slow, no surprise. They are not required to pay anything to get the game. He does not promise fast development, he admits in the same Patreon page that he is quite slow in releasing updates. Nothing is hidden. So, they just give him money for gratitude I suppose, but there is no scam involved.

They should pressure him to work better and produce faster updates? Yeah, I think so, but I'm not in their minds. Go on Patreon/Discord and ask them.

We don't see them, cause they're all abandoned:HideThePain:
Stoper always have taken projects from others publishers (LoP for example). I think he has regular commissioned work where he's paid, I don't know he's free lance or in a team. But JOHN is not his main income, he migrated to Tuscany from eastern Europe where life cost is much lower. It could be unrelated to porn comics, with his skills he could work at something else. He uses expensive software like Marvelous Designer, Maya or ZBrush (along with Photoshop) that is really not needed for Visual Novels.

He also have a really bad planning management, he changes idea very often, remakes scenes. That also complicates the work for the woman that writes the dialogues for him, I suppose.
 
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