umby
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You guys are going to compare something like Cyberpunk 2077 to the games being released here? Come on, heck the latest delay for Cyberpunk is probably due to the virus and everyone having to WFH. It's not easy to developer such a huge game when everyone is split apart.
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Hahahaha ! What a joke ! if my comment does not show brillance, what about yours ? really ironic...
umby
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It is a pity, the game is great, not only for its graphic quality, the story is well developed, it is not tedious of long waits like wife and mother (I was bored long time waiting for something to happen), nor is it sex without felt all the time.
But as it happens to deepsleep with Anna (which I was a sponsor and I left it for obvious reasons) ... they are too late, give dates and fail again and again ... you can be delayed 1, 2 times, but 4 or 5 times late with excuses ... shows immaturity, irresponsibility and that you care little about your work.
As I say, I do not pay anything so it is not my problem,i just wait,(when i found a creator with good project an real intencion to work seriously i pay glad),but it is true that these people who are paying month by month to help them are disappointed, and the problem is that they have no punishment, As I say, I supported deepsleep, that creator took one update a month with 3 animations images etc ..., that was the first months, now it takes 3 to 5 months to get exactly the same amount of content with equal images ... I would even say worse, I liked the original product more .. What happened? .. It is more comfortable to charge for watching TV and take 3 months instead of 1 .. I can't see anything else.
Patreon needs to impose a punishment system, withhold payments etc. if they do not do their job, they either go to work seriously or quit, but they don't take money from people who receive nothing in return ...
But as it happens to deepsleep with Anna (which I was a sponsor and I left it for obvious reasons) ... they are too late, give dates and fail again and again ... you can be delayed 1, 2 times, but 4 or 5 times late with excuses ... shows immaturity, irresponsibility and that you care little about your work.
As I say, I do not pay anything so it is not my problem,i just wait,(when i found a creator with good project an real intencion to work seriously i pay glad),but it is true that these people who are paying month by month to help them are disappointed, and the problem is that they have no punishment, As I say, I supported deepsleep, that creator took one update a month with 3 animations images etc ..., that was the first months, now it takes 3 to 5 months to get exactly the same amount of content with equal images ... I would even say worse, I liked the original product more .. What happened? .. It is more comfortable to charge for watching TV and take 3 months instead of 1 .. I can't see anything else.
Patreon needs to impose a punishment system, withhold payments etc. if they do not do their job, they either go to work seriously or quit, but they don't take money from people who receive nothing in return ...
cold_arctus
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Please lookup the meaning of patronage. This is what Patreon offers. It isn't a platform from where you order "updates" or complete games.
If you think your money is wasted withdraw your support and move on. No one force you to continue to support someone on petreon neither did you sign a contract with Patreon nor with the artist.
Therefore a punishment system isn't needed, because you have full control about the amount and duration of your support.
My tip: Make a "donation" as soon as an update is available and wait for next update and "donate" again. Or wait a full year and get a bigger update for the same "donation".
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Mind that most patrons don't even make a single comment on Patreon.
For sure even less patrons are making comments here.
Why are you gae?
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Actually, by agreeing to their Terms of Use, Patreon reaches a contractual agreement between, well, Patreon and the agreer.
By pledging to a Creator, one reaches a contract. Example:
By pledging 20$/month, the Creator promises you certain advantages over those who subscribed for 10$. If he doesn't uphold his promise to deliver product x, he's in breach of the contract.
Per definition a contract is reached when two parties enter into a formal and legally binding agreement.
cold_arctus
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It is astonishing how silent patrons in general are. You have a handful of patrons who frequently chat with you, but >90% of them are mute. The higher their support level the quieter they are.
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I understand that patreon works like this, maybe I was misreading or it was not understood what I wanted to say (sorry, English is not my mother language).
I mean, if you, as a creator, are committing yourself to your sponsors on certain dates, you are obliged to meet them, or if you do not suffer penalties from there, why give a departure date for your product and then delay it 4 times? is to be deceiving your sponsors, (you could also say that it is a fraud), since you are not complying and what it seems is that you give one excuse after another for your delays so that people continue to contribute money.
Why are you gae?
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Doubtful because fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain.
Intent is the keyword.
cold_arctus
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Formal you are absolutely right. However, a supporter agreed to the condition that they get access to an update as soon as it is ready, without a fixed time announced - as you can see from Stoper's support level.
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cold_arctus
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Time is relative
.. (Sorry for the bad joke)!For a supporter delays within the same month aren't important, because they already pledged for the month. It gets ugly as soon as an update gets announced for e.g. July but gets released in August. Means, everyone who pledged in July with the intent to get the update have to pledge in August again.
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It's good that Stoper sends the update to the patrons regardless if he misses the end of the month deadline acknowledging everyones position and his own delays.