VN Ren'Py Jessica O'Neil's Hard News [v0.65] [stoperArt]

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MykeRosy

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I dont understand why these people are bitching like crazy about the delayed update.

Some people who going berserk against stoper are not even a patron just like me. Relax guys it will come out. Yeah its true that story and lack of development are hindering the growth of this but it is what it is.
 
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MykeRosy said:
I dont understand why these people are bitching like crazy about the delayed update.

Some people who going berserk against stoper are not even a patron just like me. Relax guys it will come out. Yeah its true that story and lack of development are hindering the growth of this but it is what it is.
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People do not whine, and are ready to wait as long as necessary! But why feed people with promises every time and not fulfill them? If Stoper was engaged only in this project (the main one), I think there would be much less comments. Many people supported him, like me! But when updates are delayed for his other projects, I personally do not have the desire to support him further. That's it!

PS: I hope in the future Stoper will only deal with this project. :geek:
 
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VulgarJoys said:
People do not whine, and are ready to wait as long as necessary! But why feed people with promises every time and not fulfill them? If Stoper was engaged only in this project (the main one), I think there would be much less comments. Many people supported him, like me! But when updates are delayed for his other projects, I personally do not have the desire to support him further. That's it!

PS: I hope in the future Stoper will only deal with this project. :geek:
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I agree with most of what you're saying, but if you look at this thread there's a ton of people just whining and crying about the delays/development time without bothering to explain their position and how they think it impacts the development of the game, which isn't constructive for anyone involved.
 
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cold_arctus said:
It is astonishing how silent patrons in general are. You have a handful of patrons who frequently chat with you, but >90% of them are mute. The higher their support level the quieter they are. :LOL:
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I am not silent even if my level of support is not very high but since he was supposed to release a BETA I felt compelled to ask him how big this BETA was to which he replied yesterday. Many also lacked the courage to ask them.
 
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Geko1711 said:
Many also lacked the courage to ask them.
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or they are to afraid to talk in English.

I'm a Mod on a server with almost 7,000 members (patrons and non-patrons) and I see and talk to the same 10 people there. A bit more if i use (@)everyone tag :D

But tbh I don't want to be a Mod or a dev on a server like Milfy City where non-supporters tag the dev non-stop to accuse or insult him.
 
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cold_arctus said:
Please lookup the meaning of patronage. This is what Patreon offers. It isn't a platform from where you order "updates" or complete games.
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I think most people here understand the concept of Patreon pretty well.

However, this does not change the fact that some developers are really quite brazen. I sometimes think that a little more feedback, not only in text but also in reducing the flow of money would be useful. A system that supports actual project planning with concrete milestones and traceable goals. Currently, the situation often arises that developers tend to increase the hourly earnings by delaying new content. It would be perfect if these developers would simply receive less money.
 
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cold_arctus

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XaGnard said:
I think most people here understand the concept of Patreon pretty well.

However, this does not change the fact that some developers are really quite brazen. I sometimes think that a little more feedback, not only in text but also in reducing the flow of money would be useful. A system that supports actual project planning with concrete milestones and traceable goals. Currently, the situation often arises that developers tend to increase the hourly earnings by delaying new content. It would be perfect if these developers would simply receive less money.
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I do not disagree with you, because you point out something important, but who should control that and by which rules? :unsure:

So far the only "punishment" is: Supporter cancelling their support.
 
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the creative writing process is not something the dev can pull out of a hat at whim. add to that the fact that the dev has to create a visual as well as write, makes it all the more difficult. the dev is human, give him a break eh?

as for patreon, you pledge a support, not buy a product. can't afford to not see results for a few months at a time? maybe you are not cut out to be a patron of the arts. besides, it's only a few bucks a month to support an artist who both writes and draws to entertain you.

grow up and quit whinging.
 
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gekk0z said:
the creative writing process is not something the dev can pull out of a hat at whim. add to that the fact that the dev has to create a visual as well as write, makes it all the more difficult. the dev is human, give him a break eh?

as for patreon, you pledge a support, not buy a product. can't afford to not see results for a few months at a time? maybe you are not cut out to be a patron of the arts. besides, it's only a few bucks a month to support an artist who both writes and draws to entertain you.

grow up and quit whinging.
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if I remember correctly someone else writes for him.
 
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#Escape said:
if I remember correctly someone else writes for him.
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You're right, he has a writer, and even then he doesn't make the art to entertain us, like the guy you quoted implies, he makes it to make money. I seriously don't understand the mentality some people have, that you can't possibly criticize anyone.
 
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gekk0z said:
the creative writing process is not something the dev can pull out of a hat at whim. add to that the fact that the dev has to create a visual as well as write, makes it all the more difficult. the dev is human, give him a break eh?

as for patreon, you pledge a support, not buy a product. can't afford to not see results for a few months at a time? maybe you are not cut out to be a patron of the arts. besides, it's only a few bucks a month to support an artist who both writes and draws to entertain you.

grow up and quit whinging.
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Sure the writing process is very important since it makes or breaks the game, but imagine going through the script for errors and checking it on a release date, does that make any sense? Stuff like that should be done way beforehand, before you get anywhere close to providing a release date, no wonder he always misses his dates. So it's you who needs to grow up and see proper criticism where it exists instead of defending blindly.
 
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fortuna95 said:
Why is he still giving release dates? :rolleyes:

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I wouldn't want to bring bad luck but if it didn't go out in the day it means that it probably won't go out today and maybe not even tomorrow. It's been a week that says there is little work left on the game, so I think it is appropriate for everyone not to wait for something that will never come or at least not in the short term.
 
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