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There will be only lesbian paths with the MC. There will be lesbian paths with the MC where a dick is involved, but not on the MC. The whole world doesn't turn lesbian or straight
Perfectly fine. You are the dev and should only follow your Personal vision of your project.

There are too many VNs where the dev tried to cater to everyone and in the end no one was Happy and the whole thing got abandoned.

What I am trying to figure out is if the MC can get sub or forced content on the lesbian route.
 

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Perfectly fine. You are the dev and should only follow your Personal vision of your project.

There are too many VNs where the dev tried to cater to everyone and in the end no one was Happy and the whole thing got abandoned.

What I am trying to figure out is if the MC can get sub or forced content on the lesbian route.
Yes she can
 

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That's fair enough and there will be a walkthrough as there was before. There will be only lesbian paths with the MC. There will be lesbian paths with the MC where a dick is involved, but not on the MC. The whole world doesn't turn lesbian or straight based on choices, there will be options for the MC to divert of course, but there are MC only lesbian paths. The point of this is that it sets up the last chapter in the series on how you begin in "RED"
The whole point of people like myself picking the lesbian option is for the lesbian content. Having dick involved regardless of who it's used on instantly stops that being a lesbian route. If we wanted dick involved, we wouldn't be going for the lesbian option. Adding dick defeats the entire purpose of us picking a lesbian route.

I'm not saying you need to change anything but this is the kind of stuff people need to know beforehand.

I went through the first game just to get on Haley's route and that was ruined for me in this one. If i'd known that was going to happen I could have saved myself the time downloading it and you time from being complained at.

It doesn't need to be a love story, that isn't the point i'm making but when someone goes for a lesbian route it's because that's the content they are interested in.

It's your baby, you are the one building this world and we just decide if it's what we want to play. Nothing about that or the content needs to change but it would be nice if we had some indication of what content is on those routes.

Now I know it's not for me but I would have loved to have known that upfront. Right now I feel like I wasted my time in 2 games when all that could have been avoided by having a little indication of what kind of kinks/fetishes are on certain routes.
 

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The whole point of people like myself picking the lesbian option is for the lesbian content. Having dick involved regardless of who it's used on instantly stops that being a lesbian route. If we wanted dick involved, we wouldn't be going for the lesbian option. Adding dick defeats the entire purpose of us picking a lesbian route.

I'm not saying you need to change anything but this is the kind of stuff people need to know beforehand.

I went through the first game just to get on Haley's route and that was ruined for me in this one. If i'd known that was going to happen I could have saved myself the time downloading it and you time from being complained at.

It doesn't need to be a love story, that isn't the point i'm making but when someone goes for a lesbian route it's because that's the content they are interested in.

It's your baby, you are the one building this world and we just decide if it's what we want to play. Nothing about that or the content needs to change but it would be nice if we had some indication of what content is on those routes.

Now I know it's not for me but I would have loved to have known that upfront. Right now I feel like I wasted my time in 2 games when all that could have been avoided by having a little indication of what kind of kinks/fetishes are on certain routes.
Stories change and evolve as they are being written and it is not always possible to predict where a story will go from the beginning. Then you have Patreons and paying users making requests that may change the direction of a story from what the author initially wanted.

So while it would be Nice to know ahead of time it is unrealistic, just enjoy the time and the content you did like and when it is no longer appealing to you, you stop supporting it and find something else.

Off the top of my head there are 3 titles I financially supported that took a path I didn't like so I canceled my paying sub and moved on. No need to give the dev an essay imo.
 
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Stories change and evolve as they are being written and it is not always possible to predict where a story will go from the beginning. Then you have Patreons and paying users making requests that may change the direction of a story from what the author initially wanted.

So while it would be Nice to know ahead of time it is unrealistic, just enjoy the time and the content you did like and when it is no longer appealing to you, you stop supporting it and find something else.

Off the top of my head there are 3 I can name where I had to do this and I enjoyed all of them until I didn't and I moved on. No need to give the dev an essay imo.
But this one seems structured differently than "normal" VNs. This seems to lock you in on a specific Version of the world pretty early with seemingly not much fluidy between the path.

This is why I was so persistent in my inquiry.

I am not trying to answer for Ava here. Just giving my perspective as I think both of us are struggling a bit in the same way with the way this Story ist told.

That is again not to say that the dev is supposed to chance his vision or to cater to my Personal kink.

The art, renders and narration are really good so far. That's what makes me invested and trying to better understand what lies ahead.
 
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The whole point of people like myself picking the lesbian option is for the lesbian content. Having dick involved regardless of who it's used on instantly stops that being a lesbian route. If we wanted dick involved, we wouldn't be going for the lesbian option. Adding dick defeats the entire purpose of us picking a lesbian route.

I'm not saying you need to change anything but this is the kind of stuff people need to know beforehand.

I went through the first game just to get on Haley's route and that was ruined for me in this one. If i'd known that was going to happen I could have saved myself the time downloading it and you time from being complained at.

It doesn't need to be a love story, that isn't the point i'm making but when someone goes for a lesbian route it's because that's the content they are interested in.

It's your baby, you are the one building this world and we just decide if it's what we want to play. Nothing about that or the content needs to change but it would be nice if we had some indication of what content is on those routes.

Now I know it's not for me but I would have loved to have known that upfront. Right now I feel like I wasted my time in 2 games when all that could have been avoided by having a little indication of what kind of kinks/fetishes are on certain routes.
In all fairness, Jessica can be a lesbian no problem, but it is in no way a deterrent for people with the intent to assault her. It just means she won't willingly jump on the nearest dick.

It just feels like a different interpretation of 'lesbian path', where Jessica's choice to be lesbian (or straight or bi for that matter) doesn't automatically mark her as off limits to everyone that is not Jessica.
 

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In all fairness, Jessica can be a lesbian no problem, but it is in no way a deterrent for people with the intent to assault her. It just means she won't willingly jump on the nearest dick.

It just feels like a different interpretation of 'lesbian path', where Jessica's choice to be lesbian (or straight or bi for that matter) doesn't automatically mark her as off limits to everyone that is not Jessica.
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Bro no just no.......
 

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Bro no just no.......
Bruh, i'm not saying i agree with the NPCs actions here, but if you play Origins she gets molested and potentially raped 5-10 minutes in. Jessica can have her preferences, but the world is consistent in that not everyone she meets will give a damn about what she wants. It may not be cranked up to DoL levels, but it's there.

At the end of the day, this is a game where you can only nudge Jessica in the direction you'd want her to go, rather than decide every little thing for her. Barring exceptions, she will lose most fights she's in. She's a magnet for people exploiting her weakness. There are no mechanics to train up her strength and fight off any attackers. That's the kind of game this is, i don't know what else to tell you.
 

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In all fairness, Jessica can be a lesbian no problem, but it is in no way a deterrent for people with the intent to assault her. It just means she won't willingly jump on the nearest dick.

It just feels like a different interpretation of 'lesbian path', where Jessica's choice to be lesbian (or straight or bi for that matter) doesn't automatically mark her as off limits to everyone that is not Jessica.
I think you're missing the point.

What you say is true but why would someone picking to play as a lesbian willingly play when it's not really lesbian.

Being female and lesbian, when I play female protag I play as a lesbian because that's the content that interests me and revs my motor so to speak. Having dick involved in that completely defeats the purpose of me playing that way. I don't have any interest in seeing that.

When i'm playing a male protag game it's not a problem, they can fuck anything with a pulse. I'm mainly interested in the story and characters there.

When i'm playing female protag is when i'm also interested in the sex side which is why I stick to lesbian games or games with lesbian routes.

I went through the first game purely for Haley's route. While I was expecting things to go wrong and possible cheating, I wasn't expecting either of them to start fucking men on that route. There are a ton of other routes with that so I foolishly expected the one main lesbian route from the first game to be lesbian in this. That's on me, I made the wrong assumption.

Now, I don't expect the dev to change a single thing, that's not why i'm posting. What I was asking for is a small indication of what possible future kinks/fetishes may be included in routes so nobody wastes their time.

If the guide or hints had a possible indicator that men would be involved in the assumed lesbian route I would have known not to download and none of these complaints of mine would be here.
 

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I think you're missing the point.

What you say is true but why would someone picking to play as a lesbian willingly play when it's not really lesbian.

Being female and lesbian, when I play female protag I play as a lesbian because that's the content that interests me and revs my motor so to speak. Having dick involved in that completely defeats the purpose of me playing that way. I don't have any interest in seeing that.

When i'm playing a male protag game it's not a problem, they can fuck anything with a pulse. I'm mainly interested in the story and characters there.

When i'm playing female protag is when i'm also interested in the sex side which is why I stick to lesbian games or games with lesbian routes.

I went through the first game purely for Haley's route. While I was expecting things to go wrong and possible cheating, I wasn't expecting either of them to start fucking men on that route. There are a ton of other routes with that so I foolishly expected the one main lesbian route from the first game to be lesbian in this. That's on me, I made the wrong assumption.

Now, I don't expect the dev to change a single thing, that's not why i'm posting. What I was asking for is a small indication of what possible future kinks/fetishes may be included in routes so nobody wastes their time.

If the guide or hints had a possible indicator that men would be involved in the assumed lesbian route I would have known not to download and none of these complaints of mine would be here.
I completely understand where you’re coming from. When I originally wrote the story, everything was stacked against Jessica. But if you’re looking for a more traditional lesbian route, of which there are two, you might find Sarah’s sister’s path more appealing.

The reason Hayley acts the way she does ties directly into the story’s title. Forced isn’t simply about pushing non-consensual encounters, it’s about circumstance. Jessica is “forced” into situations through happenstance, feeling cornered with no way out, having her options cut off by others’ actions, becoming dependent, or being manipulated. It’s less about a single act, and more about the many ways someone can be pressured or trapped.

It was also the first story I ever wrote and was a direct result of things that happened to me. So it was at the initial writing phase, it was full of circumstantial forced elements.
 

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I got lured here by Fem portagonist and lesbian tag but this game seems way to rapey for my taste so i will peace out
good luck with game.
 
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DoAdventures , I have a dumb question. I had checked the game some time ago, but at the time it seemed like it was more a kind of repackaging of the previous game content as a start for this game. Did the development progress more now ?
 

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DoAdventures , I have a dumb question. I had checked the game some time ago, but at the time it seemed like it was more a kind of repackaging of the previous game content as a start for this game. Did the development progress more now ?
Hi,

Yes it has been updated since the initial leaked build that was designed for people to setup their saves. This build in the OP has the changelog for what has been continued in this build.

Thanks,
DoAdventures
 

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Unless i've missed something drastic there is no lesbian route in this one.

The one decent lesbian route with Haley is completely ruined in this with Haley fucking some greasy fat guy. The exact opposite of the thing people following a lesbian route want.
I remember when I read this for the first time, I was so upset. I wanted more for Hayley, it was a total shock. But, I like how it progresses. It makes their lives more interesting. Especially when Jessica finds out.
 

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no its just sex scenes from main game.(haw i see it)
Hey how's it going? There is more than just the recap from "Origins" but there is a lot more "Origins" than "Forced" at the moment. More to follow soon with the next update.

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