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Archer90

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One of the things I like about art that doesn't have details is what can be left to the imagination. You interpreted her one way, while I viewed it another. It reflects on how I did the prompts. For the first set I always saw her as mocking, like how did this food wander my house. The second when you strip her she starts to realize maybe there's more to this one and I should be careful. Even says it in the status during that phase of the fight. That's why I like JSK's art the way it was/is.

Edit-also just remembered I had to switch checkpoints after the first set because it wasn't what I wanted to convey. That's why the art style is so different lol

Also thank you for polietly expressing your opinion and thoughts! As said above the current popular way to have discussions is either yelling, insulting, or stereotyping. Which doesn't really accoplish anything.

Finally I'm gonna ghost for a bit because I feel like I've released the bees. So thank you ADuckFromNarnia for reminding me what this thread is for lol.
 
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1stxknight

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Come to forum about pirated... er... Liberated porn games, look inside and find well over a dozen pages of AI art debate, discussion, hate, love, etc. Look at forum topic and title. Ensuing confusion begins.

Seriously, stop flooding this forum with this topic and get back on topic with JSK studio games ffs. (Yes the irony of complaining about it is not lost on me. I'm just tired of seeing thread updates and its just more ai stuff and it has been going on for months now.....)
 

stc05

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Honestly, I find I prefer janky homebrew art, so long as it catches certain details. Given their consumption of high quality images, the diffusion models are good at generating what looks nice to the eye, but this itself becomes uncanny, like those smoothed out "average faces" for different nations. Attractive on one level (certainly they become more symmetrical) but at the cost of certain details.

The struggle for using a diffusion model is always that detail is complex and fractal -- the most salient example is that people notice details in faces that they won't in arms, and perhaps even details in lips, nostrils, eyes, that they don't in foreheads and hair. Diffusion models do a good job now at capturing the gestalt of a character, but it feels more like several different nice renditions of the same character, and these details are demanding beyond a reasonable capacity for production of images. Yet beyond producing broad areas of color in somewhat consistent ways (time consuming for an artist) even a relatively novice artist can notice and fix details that the models mess up.

But there is also an arms race -- art acts as an often somewhat abstracted method of communication, and people oppose AI because on some basic level, they're trying to fight back against being tricked into thinking they are being communicated to by a person when in fact the person responsible is avoiding doing so, they know they are being conned on some level. This level isn't initially visible, but once you see enough of these AI images, you begin to get that uncanny feeling, and begin to prefer "real" art in an irrational way, like wanting scuffed jeans because the rich kids realized jeans are cool and are buying ultra-expensive designer ones.

As an aside I love AI glitch images, ones that are really bad. That is art! It really shows the spirit of the silly, mute machine. But I've come to prefer lower "quality" images in terms of things like shading, background details, or details in things like clothing (i.e. irrelevant details that can be generated easily, often by accident, by diffusion models) -- these in part show what the artist knows is important. This also communicates effective art, animating puts hard limits on how much detail you can really put into things, so you save your hard work for what's important to you.

JSK's janky art is great, maybe it doesn't have every contour humanly possible, but it always does its job well of communicating what matters. I suppose you could train a diffusion model on only his stuff, but this as the name suggests would simply be producing an emanation of the average expected JSK depiction based on what's been already made.

This AI adventure isn't anything but a fad -- some uses for LLMs and diffusion models are valuable and will persist, but the rest of it will end in tears (or violent revolution, unfortunately, but also then, tears...) and massive lost fortunes. By some reckonings, massive fortunes have already been lost, it is just that the sunk costs have yet to be accounted for.
 
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Come to forum about pirated... er... Liberated porn games, look inside and find well over a dozen pages of AI art debate, discussion, hate, love, etc. Look at forum topic and title. Ensuing confusion begins.

Seriously, stop flooding this forum with this topic and get back on topic with JSK studio games ffs. (Yes the irony of complaining about it is not lost on me. I'm just tired of seeing thread updates and its just more ai stuff and it has been going on for months now.....)
Right, I suppose so. Anyways -

I guess the 2 ways to manually patch are to extract source files to find code and then somehow marry it together with the newer version - provided the compiled code will still be readable.

Otherwise, it'll be easier for brwberwkerw to update it by applying all his stuff to it. I think it's best to wait for him for now
 
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nezumitori

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and usually those arguments quickly grow heated. i mean look, we got a long reasoning for one side why they aren't sympathetic towards AI, and it didn't take long for a snide comment to appear that puts all AI users into the bracket of "they need GPT to summerize it all"
Eh you know what you're right, I shouldn't be that pedantic about stuff like these. I just worry that there are stubborns who don't care to read, but I shouldn't show that like that, yeah.
 

BorgarKing

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But there is nothing to talk about JSK in this forum. Only 500+ pages full of "link pls" "android pls" "i can't open the game" "i can't find my pc" etc... Same questions, same answers. Some ppl took their time to make comprehensive guide for dummies but some ppl ( or bots ) still don't know how to use internet.
 

BorgarKing

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I really REALLY hope NOW the AI people actually read this and not even think of trying to summarize all this with chatgpt gemini or whatever. This is a really good, calm, and well-explained argument of why stuff like these keep getting shunned or categorized seperately in this market.
AI Summary:
User politely argues that AI isn’t truly creative—it just stitches together bits of existing work rather than adding original thought or style. Unlike a human artist who develops skill and intention, AI copies patterns without understanding. The post claims that AI art feels “soulless” because it lacks individuality or purpose, and while it can mimic style, it can’t innovate. The writer compares today’s AI hype to rebranding old tech, argues that overreliance on AI lowers artistic quality (like repetitive franchises and generic anime art), and says real creativity comes from humans refining their craft—not from algorithms remixing data.
 
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Eh you know what you're right, I shouldn't be that pedantic about stuff like these. I just worry that there are stubborns who don't care to read, but I shouldn't show that like that, yeah.
honestly? happy to hear that. best step to take so we can both have a calm discussion over topics like this. i know its easy to get worked up when you often meet the bad apples of each arguments side.
 
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AI Summary:
User politely argues that AI isn’t truly creative—it just stitches together bits of existing work rather than adding original thought or style. Unlike a human artist who develops skill and intention, AI copies patterns without understanding. The post claims that AI art feels “soulless” because it lacks individuality or purpose, and while it can mimic style, it can’t innovate. The writer compares today’s AI hype to rebranding old tech, argues that overreliance on AI lowers artistic quality (like repetitive franchises and generic anime art), and says real creativity comes from humans refining their craft—not from algorithms remixing data.
It's pretty good at that! But you know, even though you'll never have to write a summary again, you'll still have to read the summary it wrote to make sure its correct. If you don't, hilarity (or firing-level offenses) ensue. I will fire you for not reading the AI-generated summary, revealed by it stating things with perfect confidence that are absolutely false. GOOD LUCK
 
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