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BGRW2020

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My guess is the dev is setting up throuple routes as well as couple routes and wants to make them more realistic by having the girls attracted to each other as well as MC, rather than having a throuple route where the girls are only interested in the MC and just tolerate the other girl also being with MC.
Your guess maybe right - but for one thing many men don't want lez action with their girl / women and would speak out against it thus the choice to accept it or not is also with the man, most women are not bi, and it is not easy to convert them and also impossible for many
 

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Don't worry, this update is not only about lesbian scenes, I was just pointing out that the dev seems to want to include more lesbian scenes from now on, and it does not feel natural, it's like a quota to fulfill.
Be assured that all of them are optional/avoidable:
- Mia and Layla kissing at the lake, then sharing MC's cum (mouth to mouth) after a double-BJ in the restrooms.
- Aimee licking Heather's pussy during the party.
- Willow wants Katie and you can help them getting together (no trouple for the moment as Willow is 100% gay).
Fuck! I just now see this message and i'm downloading with My low net more than 6 gigas fuuuuck
 
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cooldevo

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Thanks for answer.I am not sure about changing room but I did all of others,she still reject.:)
Have you checked out Maviarab spreadsheet that was posted here? The game is very, very, very, complex for pathing and it's very easy to miss something. His guide, while absolutely fantastic is not perfect. But I almost wonder if the Dev is even fully aware of all the branching as it's so easy to miss so much. Anyways, if you go through that and follow the Ivy spots to get points and the right variables, you shouldn't have any issues. I tried out the guide for Ivy yesterday and it worked fine for me.

For the change room, you have to go to the gym for one of the times you get the chance to (I don't recall offhand which specific scene it is), and while in the change room at the end, Ivy will come in, goes around the corner, and curses. You can either ignore it, or ask if she's ok. Ask if she's ok.

Get relationship points with her. Most of her points are easy to figure out: make Jacob leave when he's harassing Katie, don't fuck Natalie in your room, meet her in the changing room, give correct coffee, etc. Key event is opening the safe in her room. I can't remember exactly which options you need to get access to her room but I know you're a smart one. You'll figure it out.
Relationship points aren't the sole determiner of all scenes. Yes they play a pretty big part, but a number of them also require having variables set from previous scenes/decisions.

It can be a bit tricky if you don't know where to look for it. One evening Aimee will ask if you want to go swimming with her and Beth. Choose "Make an excuse" and you'll sneak into Ivy's office. There's a number of things to look at here:
  • The big monitors along the top. The MC says things about each monitor and what he says changes based on decisions made with other women to that point.
  • The desk has the desktop monitor, the photo on the right, and the books on the left. If you look at the books on the left, there's a small slip of paper to click on. Click on that and you'll get the safe combination.
    • Late in the story, you'll see Ivy frustrated at the Front Desk. When MC asks what's going on she says she's missing a slip of paper (the one you took) and can't get into her safe. Offer to help her get into it. Note: the combination is recorded in your in-game Notebook, or you'll have to remember it as the game does not auto-enter it. It's 5684# and includes the symbol. Then once you get in, make a move.
  • If you then want to go swimming for either Aimee or Beth path, you still can. You'll also get a new option to go see Alice in the library, which helps with her path.
 
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jadepaladin

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There's a flag called rachaelMiaLaylaHardUpbringing. I first noticed it in the cab with Layla on the way to the 1st day of the trial. Have you seen other the locations where this is used? I assume via context that I need Rachael, Mia, and Layla's backstories. It's normally not a combination of women I would chase on the same save.
 

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There's a flag called rachaelMiaLaylaHardUpbringing. I first noticed it in the cab with Layla on the way to the 1st day of the trial. Have you seen other the locations where this is used? I assume via context that I need Rachael, Mia, and Layla's backstories. It's normally not a combination of women I would chase on the same save.
when u posted I was on school law thread,after 1 min I realized it is jury.For some reason it this game less appealing.
 

Eleanorduval

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I like both for different reasons.
I got feeling that I missing a lot lewd scene by taking certain paths.I kinda dislike to lose relationships points to get lewd scenes.I would transfer Kathie and Aimee to law school,they are both too cute.
 

lucifer387

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Have you checked out Maviarab spreadsheet that was posted here? The game is very, very, very, complex for pathing and it's very easy to miss something. His guide, while absolutely fantastic is not perfect. But I almost wonder if the Dev is even fully aware of all the branching as it's so easy to miss so much. Anyways, if you go through that and follow the Ivy spots to get points and the right variables, you shouldn't have any issues. I tried out the guide for Ivy yesterday and it worked fine for me.

For the change room, you have to go to the gym for one of the times you get the chance to (I don't recall offhand which specific scene it is), and while in the change room at the end, Ivy will come in, goes around the corner, and curses. You can either ignore it, or ask if she's ok. Ask if she's ok.



Relationship points aren't the sole determiner of all scenes. Yes they play a pretty big part, but a number of them also require having variables set from previous scenes/decisions.

It can be a bit tricky if you don't know where to look for it. One evening Aimee will ask if you want to go swimming with her and Beth. Choose "Make an excuse" and you'll sneak into Ivy's office. There's a number of things to look at here:
  • The big monitors along the top. The MC says things about each monitor and what he says changes based on decisions made with other women to that point.
  • The desk has the desktop monitor, the photo on the right, and the books on the left. If you look at the books on the left, there's a small slip of paper to click on. Click on that and you'll get the safe combination.
    • Late in the story, you'll see Ivy frustrated at the Front Desk. When MC asks what's going on she says she's missing a slip of paper (the one you took) and can't get into her safe. Offer to help her get into it. Note: the combination is recorded in your in-game Notebook, or you'll have to remember it as the game does not auto-enter it. It's 5684# and includes the symbol. Then once you get in, make a move.
  • If you then want to go swimming for either Aimee or Beth path, you still can. You'll also get a new option to go see Alice in the library, which helps with her path.
After a lot of try ,I finally made it.Thanks.
 
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flaviopaganini

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Don’t be surprised if there is people here making 30 saves lol for me 5-10 saves should do what it wants to see.
To start Chapter 3, I have 14 save files, I even mentioned that in my review of Chapter 2.

To achieve all the achievements, I had to make 19 saved routes in Chapter 1. In Chapter 2, I used 10 of these routes to proceed, leaving me with 14 saved routes available for Chapter 3.
 
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cooldevo

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There's a flag called rachaelMiaLaylaHardUpbringing. I first noticed it in the cab with Layla on the way to the 1st day of the trial. Have you seen other the locations where this is used? I assume via context that I need Rachael, Mia, and Layla's backstories. It's normally not a combination of women I would chase on the same save.

Ooof, backtracking variables in this game is rough. In order to get it, it's a secret you can get from Rachael. It can be gotten from the conversation with Rachael in the basement of the Hotel in Episode 1:
  • Rachael says: "I just think this is all going to be a little too late to save my career..."
  • MC has choice of "Comfort her" or "Use it to your advantage"; chose "Use it to your advantage". MC will ask for something that will help him get started to dig further.
  • Rachael will offering one secret for one of 5 of the women. Choose Layla:
    • sets rachaelMiaLaylaHardUpbringing = True, which is the one you want.
    • Note: No idea what this has to do with Mia, as none of the conversation here mentions
    • Also sets laylaSecretSad = True.
    • It's a sad secret. But wait! If you choose this one, both the MC and Rachael do not want to dig up dirt or spread gossip on her so you get another pick... but it stays unlocked. Pick any of the other names as preferred.
In Episode 2, it is used when in the cab with Lalya on the way to court. Very short, and at this point was mostly superficial thoughts related to confirming what Rachael had told him.

In Episode 3, I wasn't able to find any reference to it.


And that was all I was able to find.
 
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cooldevo

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I deleted all my save but the achievement and replay stayed :LOL: gonna play the paths I didn’t play.And to find the 2 right question for the trial.
If you are playing it on Steam, achievements are unlocked via Steam's API, so can't really undo that. The persistent file is probably what's keeping track of the replay stats. I haven't used RenPy games online with Steam, so someone else will have to confirm, but if Cloud Sync is running it may cause issues trying to redownload the cloud version of the file.

If are you playing a version not on Steam, all those goodies are saved into the persistent file. If you go into the game's save folder you should see a file called "persistent". If you rename it (safest option) or delete it, then it'll be like you started the game for the first time.

Important Note: The persistent also stores 'seen' screens, so by default Tab-skipping won't work as the game will think every screen is the first time you are seeing it. I'd personally suggest renaming it to something like "persistent-old" or something like that. Then if you decide you don't like it, just remove the newer persistent and rename the old one to "persistent". It has no extension to the name, it's just "persistent".


As for the Trial Question Answers, there is no right or wrong answer. It's all how you want Brooke's case to go. There is one "blue", one "neutral" and one "red" answer for each trial day. Red moves the bar towards the Brooke silhouette with horns, while blue moves it towards the Brooke silhouette with a halo:

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Note: MC can be removed as Head Juror based on the questions asked during Day 1 and 2.
 
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longjohngold

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I deleted everything, rebilt the compressed, got to the hotel where you are swimming and go to the gym. I made 30 some saves in the process. Quit the game, restarted my PC, loaded the game back up and loaded multiple saves and got no errors.
Yeah this is running fine.

So know when I said I had a black screen during animations? I remembered I'd had that in a game before... and you know that fixes it, turning off "mute all" in the sound settings, wut? Works fine in 99% of games but something is funky in this one and one other, haha.
 
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Crazonian1

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Pretty good VN so far. Not sure though why Lily is confessing her pee kink in the kitchen in ep 3 though, when MC's already known about it for quite a while now. Hell, she even peed on him in the shower.
 
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