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Had threesome with Natash and Carol then went to Carol, no such option was given. Already fucked Carol and did Anal with her.
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This is what it shows in the same day, after I did the threesome(did it several times before too.)

This probably happens because you need to "peek" on Carol-Natasha to unlock the option, and doesn't work with just the threesome(I will add it for the new version), usually doesn't happen because most people peek before, as it's an easier option and also for the achievement, but if you peeked for the achievement on the previous run and didn't bother peeking again (cause no reason - achievement already done), you end up there.

Can you please try peeking and then going to Carol again?
 

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Work in progress of new mechanics (I'll also add higher tiers for the sex stats!)

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Naskura

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You can get to fuck susan with literally zero confidence, you either need 28 confidence or 100 attraction (and she will trigger a different scene where she takes the lead), which is pretty easy to achieve in the first run even if you go with any of the other routes and don't boost confidence at all, if you take the starting confidence boost instead and do some "socialize" classes you can literally fuck her at day 5 even with negative love and losing a few condidence points around (tyler, rose, etc)

Also fucking Rose requires no confidence at all and is not so hard to achieve if you focus on stamina with some int and/or charisma on the side.

I have tried test runs, picking charisma as start, not even a flawless run, you can lose virginity to rose at day 12 on first run
Maybe I have just missed finding those routes, good to know they exist, will have to look to see if I can find them.
I'm just gonna answer in a brutally honest way here, not at you, but because I'm a bit depressed about this version getting the absolute worst feedback that I've gotten since i started making this game, and I can't really understand why.

Would it be feasible? Yeah, maybe it would, but I would be offering something that I think would be a very mediocre experience, playing out way worse than the literal tons of visual novels that are alreaxy existing here to offer exactly that kind of experience.

I know that the game is far from being complete and it still needs more content to feel less grindy than it is, but It just wouldn't work that way.

Everything is designed to have multiple results depending on your progressing stats, and to give you the feeling of improving your results while going forward.

Even if I gave the option to start the game with all stats maxed out(which is basically what cheats can do, btw), I think it would be a terrible game with no meaning and literally worse than just opening pornhub, so I don't want to do that, I was even very skeptical on offering cheats at all, because you can just end up ruining your game experience, but well I offered them anyway, cause this game is everything i'm doing with my life right now and i kinda needed at least a way to get a few more supporters, but that's something that i mildly regret and as I literally wrote on the cheats page (before even linking to patreon) I would still discourage people from using them, why?

Because I don't think they are an improvement or even useful at all and you should definitely try the game without them, if you can't enjoy it without them, then probably the game doesn't have too much to offer for you anyway, because it's more focused on gameplay mechanics than on the actual story.
Fair enough, Like I said it's your game.
 
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Eoin

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Finished this latest update in only a few hours
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Definitely seems easier than the last version I played (.25). Be careful not to do too much balancing that you remove the whole point of the mechanics. If people don't like the game because of "grind", the game isn't for them, they can stick to their VN's.

I'm looking forward to seeing the progression of the story/mechanics/characters from here on in!
 

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A few thoughts:

1. If MC can help Carol at the highest level (40 Int/60 Culture), then asking for money doesn't mark Carol as already visited in the Hallway. It still takes half an hour, but you can help Carol 5 or 6 times in a row to make a bunch of money.

2. If too many more characters are added, having achievements for having sex with each one first is going to require a lot of runs, which might work better if there are more mutually exclusive achievements to encourage repeat plays down different paths (like Melanie having blackmail/don't blackmail routes).

3. It might also be helpful to have the unearned achievements show what stat they boost without giving the specific amount. For example:
Touch Carol's tits (improves intelligence)
Touch Rose's tits (improves stamina)
Touch Natasha's tits (improves popularity)
That way, especially once even more achievements are added, a player can target the stat boosts they want most in a particular run.
 
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ARB582

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I'm glad you enjoyed the game :)

And you are talking about 2 matters:

That Natasha achievement is pretty high, yeah, in fact going for all achievements, while i understand why someone would want to do that is definitively not the "ideal gameplay" yet, and I could say that i would lower that achievement/scene requirement, but I'd really rather leave it as it is and add more content so that you can get there with less need to see repeated scenes, hoepefully going towards almost zero.

The stat retention rework is already planned, it will consider the highest stat you reached when you reset so that if you do a "half-run" you won't be punished for it.
The Natasha thing i am ok with, its for an achievement and i don't mind if they are a bit grindy, but just that once i was done with it and realizing i would have to grind again to get my stats back again was off putting. The complaint was more against the stat retention system, so its nice to hear the rework is being planned. I look forward to the next update.
 
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cloned909

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This probably happens because you need to "peek" on Carol-Natasha to unlock the option, and doesn't work with just the threesome(I will add it for the new version), usually doesn't happen because most people peek before, as it's an easier option and also for the achievement, but if you peeked for the achievement on the previous run and didn't bother peeking again (cause no reason - achievement already done), you end up there.

Can you please try peeking and then going to Carol again?
This might one of those Hints people need, because you don't get any other clue when it happened beside that 1 dialogue. Probably something like "When you're really close with Natasha and Carol, try visiting their room in sleeping hours"
 
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A few thoughts:

1. If MC can help Carol at the highest level (40 Int/60 Culture), then asking for money doesn't mark Carol as already visited in the Hallway. It still takes half an hour, but you can help Carol 5 or 6 times in a row to make a bunch of money.

2. If too many more characters are added, having achievements for having sex with each one first is going to require a lot of runs, which might work better if there are more mutually exclusive achievements to encourage repeat plays down different paths (like Melanie having blackmail/don't blackmail routes).

3. It might also be helpful to have the unearned achievements show what stat they boost without giving the specific amount. For example:
Touch Carol's tits (improves intelligence)
Touch Rose's tits (improves stamina)
Touch Natasha's tits (improves popularity)
That way, especially once even more achievements are added, a player can target the stat boosts they want most in a particular run.
1- that bug was reported on discord and has been for the next version, thanks anyway for reporting it : )
2- Yep, this was always on the back on my mind, not only i plan on adding characters with more consistent multiple routes, but i also want to add variety to characters, maybe fucking will be something that you can at least at some point do with basically all of them or it would feel like you're missing the most important thing, but on all the rest, i don't want the achievements or the game to feel like a spreadsheet. So i want to keep diversificating as much as i can!

3- Didn't think about that, not sure if it would be a kind of spoiler and some descriptions might become a bit too wordy, but i can definitely do a basic +int +str +char, +stat in general or a +special for the complex ones to start off
 

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I think you could further clean it up to just 'your new stat is X' and put everything else in the ???, most people aren't really going to care about any of the how/why, only the final number.

Balance wise I think this means you get slightly lower retained stats because the bonus is applied before retain instead of after, but it uses your best value instead of your current value?
 

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I think you could further clean it up to just 'your new stat is X' and put everything else in the ???, most people aren't really going to care about any of the how/why, only the final number.

Balance wise I think this means you get slightly lower retained stats because the bonus is applied before retain instead of after, but it uses your best value instead of your current value?
I understand your point, but as long as it stays a single line of text, I wanted to at least point out that it's not a random number even if someone skips through it.
And about the balance, yep, but I also added new tiers of retain for sale and few more achievements, so generally it should pretty much be the same or even easier, and this will allow me to throw in achievements without worrying too much about balance, or well, not having to manually calculate everytime if i'm giving too much, a little rebalance will be done anyway from time to time


Edit: btw, i'll probably post a test-version on discord tonight
 
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I was skeptical of this one because of the "AI CG" tag. I had yet to play a single game with that tag that wasn't absolute fucking garbage. Well, there's a first time for everything it seems, because this one turns out to actually be pretty damn fun. Is it a bit grindy, sure it is, but it's grindy in a way where you get to see constant improvement and watch the numbers go up every time you restart the simulation. That's a dopamine hit generator if you're me.

I appreciate the game's use of less overused models when it comes to the porn, even if some of them (Melanie specifically) really don't do anything for me. I do hope that the models used have enough content out there that the dev can write scenarios around them though, part of the reason some models are so over used in real porn games is because models with a lot of videos are easier to write content for.

Overall, 4/5. For the type of game it is, it's really fun. My primary complaint with the game is that there are parts where the English is... pretty yikes, and I don't really get why because reading the dev's posts on here it seems like his English is pretty good. But the game is super fun and I look forward to following its development!
 

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I was skeptical of this one because of the "AI CG" tag. I had yet to play a single game with that tag that wasn't absolute fucking garbage. Well, there's a first time for everything it seems, because this one turns out to actually be pretty damn fun. Is it a bit grindy, sure it is, but it's grindy in a way where you get to see constant improvement and watch the numbers go up every time you restart the simulation. That's a dopamine hit generator if you're me.

I appreciate the game's use of less overused models when it comes to the porn, even if some of them (Melanie specifically) really don't do anything for me. I do hope that the models used have enough content out there that the dev can write scenarios around them though, part of the reason some models are so over used in real porn games is because models with a lot of videos are easier to write content for.

Overall, 4/5. For the type of game it is, it's really fun. My primary complaint with the game is that there are parts where the English is... pretty yikes, and I don't really get why because reading the dev's posts on here it seems like his English is pretty good. But the game is super fun and I look forward to following its development!
Thanks, I'm glad you liked the game!

English isn't my main language, and while I try my best to keep it as good as possible, sometimes when writing multiple variations of a single scene it can get a bit lower quality.

Do you mean more on the side of spelling/grammar mistakes or just poor use of words / bad sentence crafting?

If you happen to play again, it would help a great deal if you could provide examples of things that you think should be rewritten or point out mistakes. I usually try to review already written content to improve it both in terms of gameplay and quality when possible, so hopefully that will improve with time!
 
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Do you mean more on the side of spelling/grammar mistakes or just poor use of words / bad sentence crafting?

If you happen to play again, it would help a great deal if you could provide examples of things that you think should be rewritten or point out mistakes. I usually try to review already written content to improve it both in terms of gameplay and quality when possible, so hopefully that will improve with time!
Both things happen in different areas. There are definitely some prominent spelling mistakes here and there. I intend to join the Discord after work today so any of those that I start coming across specifically I can point out there. As for sentence construction, there are times it gets weird. In particular, one habit I've noticed you have is a tendency towards run on sentences. Things that should really be 2 or 3 different sentences just get separated by commas as one long sentence instead. One example I pulled right from the beginning of a new simulation:

"You have 50 days to live in this reality, spend them well, the more things you achieve, the better the next simulation will be!"

This could instead be:

"You have 50 days to live in this reality, spend them well! The more things you achieve, the better the next simulation will be!"

The on the very next screen, we have:

"You are in your college dorm room, it's a single room, you insisted on that back when you were 18, because you don't really like company, so your parents had to pay a little extra for that."

This should be rephrased to be two, possibly even 3 sentences, something like:

"You are in your college dorm room. It's a single room. You don't like living with people, so you insisted on that when you came here, even though it cost your parents a little more."

This sort of thing is a bad writing habit, but a common one even among native English speakers, I struggle with it myself! It's something I have to actively work to avoid doing when I'm writing.

Anyway I need to get ready for work, but when I'm home later and join the Discord and do another run of the game (one more achievement to get) I'll look for other examples of stuff to post.
 

WarblGarbl

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Can someone help me? I think this is the only HTML game I've played where videos do not autoplay
Which browser are you using? I think Chrome has a setting that disables videos from auto playing. It might also be an option in this game itself, I think it's a possible setting to adjust when using Twine. I don't have the game downloaded right now so not sure if it's just that.

EDIT: Just quickly played the online version and the videos do autoplay.
 

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Which browser are you using? I think Chrome has a setting that disables videos from auto playing. It might also be an option in this game itself, I think it's a possible setting to adjust when using Twine. I don't have the game downloaded right now so not sure if it's just that.

EDIT: Just quickly played the online version and the videos do autoplay.
I'm using Chrome to play it, I tried checking in game settings but there's no option
 

Tir

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Got a bug when I asked for money near the end of one run from Carol and got NaN error, which rolled into the end game EXP:

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