Stan5851

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That would such a great wallpaper if it was Olivia on her own.....damn.
Olivia comes first for me, but Veronica is lovely too. I'll try to include her in my harem in the main walkthrough (GoodDom Kane + Olivia LI), and in another save I'll try to make Veronica the main LI and see what happens. It's too early to think about that now though, the potential love fork when Kane has to make a choice is probably not close yet.
 
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Definitely gonna be serving up Veronica since she has a sub route in which she is one of the characters that you can romance her as a sub! Also looks like maybe tongue alteration scene? Might be wrong
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I've always wanted to ask you guys who play the sub routes. How can crawling on your knees and humiliating yourself be an act of showing a romantic relationship to a character? No, I get that you like femdom from a roleplay fetish perspective, but where is "romance" in that equation?
 

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Yeah, this is 99,9% the dom route and I'm looking forward to this scene. It's definitely going to go beyond wiping Olivia with a towel here, hehe.
I only mentioned the sub route for this scene as currently, the Dom route has not seen Olivia naked at all and given our current very limited interactions with her, it seems a little too soon (imo) for us to be naked with her in the spa/pool/baths. The Sub route does have a lot more content with Olivia than us dom players do. (one thing the sub players have over us).

That aside, started on a few new runs over the weekend and on my important/relevent events timeline. Doing a few more diff saves also so may take me a few days as a few updates of other VN's I'm following have dropped so want to get them out of the way also.
 
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I only mentioned the sub route for this scene as currently, the Dom route has not seen Olivia naked at all and given our current very limited interactions with her, it seems a little too soon (imo) for us to be naked with her in the spa/pool/baths. The Sub route does have a lot more content with Olivia than us dom players do. (one thing the sub players have over us).
I'm betting it's the dom route. Firstly, the overall style of the screenshot suggests it's a confident KaneDom, not a submissive slave. Secondly, I'm thinking there's nothing quite so extreme about a regular spa/pool/baths. Kane has known Olivia his whole life, and the same can be said for her. We've already seen her naked, so why shouldn't she see us?)

You don't think Kane in his position is going to have a romantic dinner at a restaurant, walk with Olivia under the moon and serenade her under her windows, do you?) We are in the midst of a power struggle, and we don't have time for such sentimentality, alas. So I highly doubt that Kane Dom and Olivia's relationship will develop in the spirit of that good old-fashioned romance we see in the KaneDom+Junko scene. I think the spa is okay. And Kane's erect penis is okay too..) The only thing is, I can't remember if our KaneDom knows that Olivia isn't his sister? Okay, let's see what this scene will actually be like.:)
 
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Wait, I swear my Kane has seen naked Olivia in his Dom run. It's a scene with Olivia and Taylor (the handler of W2 pod) where Kane is offered by Olivia to wipe her with a towel. We even get some Princesseyes points.

And Kane doesn't know about his real sister thing, although he totally should from all the hints other characters give him throughout the game. He's not a smart cookie, despite getting to K9 with sponsorships from Juliette, Dominique and a potential one from Alessandra in the next episode.
 

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Wait, I swear my Kane has seen naked Olivia in his Dom run. It's a scene with Olivia and Taylor (the handler of W2 pod) where Kane is offered by Olivia to wipe her with a towel. We even get some Princesseyes points.

And Kane doesn't know about his real sister thing, although he totally should from all the hints other characters give him throughout the game. He's not a smart cookie, despite getting to K9 with sponsorships from Juliette, Dominique and a potential one from Alessandra in the next episode.
This is true yes, in the last update but it's a progressive scene (and do have the option to not help her also). Remember, that scene is neither really sexual or her dominating us (lot of sexy naked Olivia on the sub route).

Just seems a jump (timeline) from that...to sitting in front of her with a boner while she walks towards us naked for me. Unless, between the last scene of the last update and that screenshot scene...a LOT happens inbetween storywise (which is certainly possible if the next update takes place over a number of days). My point really being, there is sexual stuff happening on the sub route (somewhat)...there has not been any at all on the dom route with her so far.
 

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I've always wanted to ask you guys who play the sub routes. How can crawling on your knees and humiliating yourself be an act of showing a romantic relationship to a character? No, I get that you like femdom from a roleplay fetish perspective, but where is "romance" in that equation?
I play both paths, only for the content i swear :rolleyes: :ROFLMAO:
 

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I've always wanted to ask you guys who play the sub routes. How can crawling on your knees and humiliating yourself be an act of showing a romantic relationship to a character? No, I get that you like femdom from a roleplay fetish perspective, but where is "romance" in that equation?
Is that really any/much different to the opposite...male dom with female submissive?

Sure the lines can be blurred and I could discuss this topic literally until the cows come home and fill this thread full of talk, discussion and opinions (you may recall me mentioning myself being a dom of almost 30 years now). For me, a D/s relationship cannot exist without romance. Now I understand what we have in KG is slightly different, though also being fair, the relationships are barely beginning at the moment.

D/s is 95% pyschological...a submissive puts trust in their dom. They allow their dom to be a dom. There is great emotion, respect, trust and honesty in that relationship. That can only come with time...and with that closeness, that connection, that state of being...comes romantic feelings also. How and what the dom and their sub conduct in things is down to them. It does not lessen nor diminish the romantic relationship. Why I refuse to believe people when they claim they are sub trainers etc. Utter bollox. You cannot train a sub, except for yourself. Because of everything I just stated. It's impossible to train a submissive for someone else because they are only allowing you to do what you do, because of the trust and respect. Why would they respect and trust the person you're 'training' them for? Doesn't work that way. It's also like all the fake and wannabe doms and subs out there (especially on the net, such sites as Reddit etc). A bit of kinky sex...a dom and a sub does very much not make. Being either is very much a state of mind, a state of being, what and who you are.

Slaves, are a completely different kettle of fish (as we say here in the UK). A slave has no voice, no opinion and no say. There is little to no romance there. Most slaves do what they are told out of fear or punishment. There is little respect there or even emotional connection. So in your question...for a slave, I completely agree with what you are asking...a submissive, very different thing.

Now again, to reiterate, other than the slave aspect, the world of KG is very different to our own, however, considering the secret sub routes, take Alessandra for example, she requires a strong Kane, she wants a strong dominant Kane for all outward appearances. She cannot be seen with what is perceived as a weak man. She wants someone to love and respect her as she is and I assume vice-versa too. In private however, very different story...and I'm sure the love and connection you would share with her (as a sub in private) is immense.


Edit: I probably rambled too much then and went too far away from the question/comment you made so....apologies, it's just a topic I am naturally very passionate about.
 
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