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Interesting that Chanel is specifically mentioned having an impact; I picked her when the decision trees allowed it but now I understand that carries some significance going forward(?)

The one I can’t quite figure out yet is Elena, what role she plays in the organization (corporate counsel?) and how she impacts. I picked her too as a possible LI when the decision tree allowed.

Sorry if this has already been asked/answered, but does anyone know how many total chapters are planned?
 

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Sorry if this has already been asked/answered, but does anyone know how many total chapters are planned?
I don't recall an answer from Tess about the length, but she has said that with 0.8 act 2 ends and sh** gets real after and our alliances become important. So if Act 1 ended with 0.2 (release from prison) or 0.3 (end of the settle in week) and if the story follows the common 3 act structure, I'd expect 10 to 12 chapters.
 

Astriedax

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Just remember while you type all of these things in elaborate detail...it's just a porn VN at the end of the day, logic does necessarily apply to many things, including fictitious porn. I respect your passion though, just don't get too lost in the weeds. Kindest regards.
I don't take serious at all, there are many things that I've given an overlook. It's just entertainment fiction.
However, for the life of me, it doesn't any make sense to have a sub/good Olivia that will deny her brother's promotion. If she was enlightened with the company moral policies or had evil tendencies, I would see absolutely no problem, but it isn't the case.
She isn't even fit to hold her current position for crying out loud.

Olivia is the CEO's daughter. You are...breeding stock. Of course she's going to have an easier time of it. Your end goal is probably achievable, but I disagree that your preferred method of achieving it should be workable. A good sub Olivia who wishes to please the new authority figures in her life, ie. the Karlsson board, as she's already been warned not to show her brother any favoratism multiple times, and who doesn't particularly care for her selfish brother's evil ways, and his lack of support for her, may well decide that demoting her brother will both make her superiors happy and keep him from doing anything evil to others.

While I do think there should and will be a way for an evil dom Kane to come out on top, I'd be disappointed if a good Olivia, sub or not, rolled over as quickly as you appear to desire.
Well, MC seems to be as important as her. The main reason of a harder start seems to be exclusively because he's male.
Still, whatever, I don't mind a world building with unique set of rules. What I do mind is when said world building makes decision that contract itself in order for the plot to advance.

Well... If she's trying to please, she's failing in my playthrough, for I've selected as many options that will either give negative opinion or no opinion boost. Therefore, being a good sub to please doesn't fit my Olivia. Also it's on it's core foundation that anybody inside the company has to have some degree of autonomy, problem solving and leadership. Looking down and being a yes person, is not what is expected of high level executives. It's just how the world was been built and the set of rules that we have.

I have no problem with the pacing that MC is ranking. If anything he's getting promoted way too fast, as he's a slave above all else.
However, my problem comes with the cheer lack of consistency and logic, for her sister in my playthrough is simply not fit to rule, and is a polar opposition of what the company desires to have.
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However, for the life of me, it doesn't any make sense to have a sub/good Olivia that will deny her brother's promotion. If she was enlightened with the company moral policies or had evil tendencies, I would see absolutely no problem, but it isn't the case.
She isn't even fit to hold her current position for crying out loud. "

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Oh also about selfish brother. Prior to that, we only we one choice to build sis team, which was to make a question of what was expected of both from one of the sisters. Which being demoted for not asking this question (which she could've made herself) is plain stupid.
The decisions inside the event are unkown consequences until it happens, so it's impossible to be judged by now. If she strongly thinks otherwise, she should've made it clear and had it her way, since she had power to do so. Being punished choices from an event that didn't even happened yet, is extremely dumb.

She knows him from a long time, and he's the most reliable person that she knows and can count on.
Her knowledge of him at beginning of the game was either reliable strong person or a weak pathetic brother, but not ruthless untrustworthy.
There's no way for her to have intel from his conversations inside rooms with anyone he had spoken to. And even she had access, he could be just lying to survive. So the "selfish brother that doesn't want to help her" simply doesn't apply. He did show up, and he did help her in the events the best he could've.
 
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I don't take serious at all, there are many things that I've given an overlook. It's just entertainment fiction.
However, for the life of me, it doesn't any make sense to have a sub/good Olivia that will deny her brother's promotion. If she was enlightened with the company moral policies or had evil tendencies, I would see absolutely no problem, but it isn't the case.
She isn't even fit to hold her current position for crying out loud.



Well, MC seems to be as important as her.
Important? Yes. In the exact same situation? No. He is important because he carries Callista's genes and can give Alexander Karlsson the grandson he's dreamed of. A dom Kane can potentially use that to rise to the top, but he will need to not just strive for it, but also make a son with at least 1 of Alexander Karlsson's daughters. It won't just be dropped in his lap.

The main reason of a harder start seems to be exclusively because he's male.
There's two ways I can reply to this. The first is that the author intentionally created a femdom setting and it is made clear in the very first post. So yeah. Of course. But in game, it's not exclusively because he's male. If he were a girl with the same parents he wouldn't be important at all. He wouldn't have been imprisoned on trumped up charges, but neither would he have been given a "fair" shot at rising to the top. It's because he's not just male but also carries the right genes in this dystopian world that he's been forced into the femdom playground the Karlsson girls have created for themselves and been given a shot at rising to the top.

Olivia is in a better starting position not just because she's a girl, as the Joy facility houses some female slaves too. She's in a better position because she's Alexander Karlsson's daughter and is thus being given the same shot at inheriting as Alexander's other daughters are.

Well... If she's trying to please, she's failing in my playthrough, for I've selected as many options that will either give negative opinion or no opinion boost. Therefore, being a good sub to please doesn't fit my Olivia. Also it's on it's core foundation that anybody inside the company has to have some degree of autonomy, problem solving and leadership. Looking down and being a yes person, is not what is expected of high level executives. It's just how the world was been built and the set of rules that we have.
If your Olivia is that incompetent then call it nepotism. If you've never had an incompetent boss who was there only because of family or political connections then you are a lucky man.

I have no problem with the pacing that MC is ranking. If anything he's getting promoted way too fast, as he's a slave above all else.
However, my problem comes with the cheer lack of consistency and logic, for her sister in my playthrough is simply not fit to rule, and is a polar opposition of what the company desires to have.
An incompetent Olivia will very probably lose her position once the Gambit is decided. At the moment everyone who is anyone is still too much in the thrall of the recently deceased Alexander Karlsson to defy his plan, and Olivia and Kane's current "positions" are both part of his plan.

However, for the life of me, it doesn't any make sense to have a sub/good Olivia that will deny her brother's promotion. If she was enlightened with the company moral policies or had evil tendencies, I would see absolutely no problem, but it isn't the case.
She has no control over the company's moral policies as things stand, but she does have control over her brother.

She isn't even fit to hold her current position for crying out loud. "
It doesn't matter if she's fit to hold the position. It's nepotism.
 
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There's two ways I can reply to this. The first is that the author intentionally created a femdom setting and it is made clear in the very first post. So yeah. Of course. But in game, it's not exclusively because he's male. If he were a girl with the same parents he wouldn't be important at all. He wouldn't have been or imprisoned but neither would he have been given a shot at rising at all. It's because he's not just male but also carries the right genes in this dystopian world that he's been forced into the femdom playground the Karlsson girls have created for themselves and been given a shot at rising to the top.

Olivia is in a better starting position not just because she's a girl, as the Joy facility houses some female slaves too. She's in a better position because she's Alexander Karlsson's daughter and is thus being given the same shot at inheriting as Alexander's other daughters are.
Since both had the same parents, then both would have the same start, if gender were the same.
Anyhow, instead of seeking for Olivia and giving her a shot to become one of the most powerful persons in the planet, that consequently would strip power from the sisters (if Olivia manages to become the head, then the sisters would have to answer to her, therefore they would become weaker.), it would be more realistic to send assassins and have a 'accident' do happen to Olivia somewhere, or at least forge paper work from her birth, she didn't even knew she had a shot there. Seeking for to give her an opportunity to outshine and outrank them, it simply doesn't make any sense.

MC however is another beast entirely, for starters he's a male, therefore slave on this universe (easier to control/manipulate), and he's the only one who can give legitimacy to any of the sisters to rule and get all the power they always wanted to have.
So it's a much lower risk that has the key to unlock their ultimate goal. Non brainer.

If your Olivia is that incompetent then call it nepotism. If you've never had an incompetent boss who was there only because of family connections then you are a lucky man.
I mean, she didn't knew about her inheritance. The sisters didn't have any obligation with her. The most obvious thing that she can do, is usurp the title and power for herself, therefore she's a threat.
Why would they give her a chance in the first place? As for nepotism, in the real world yes, but things works a little differently in this fictional company. There, one needs to have the doctrinal merits and skills to rule. Even the biological sisters couldn't raise to the top from their birth right alone, they needed to prove themselves, so it wasn't given away.

That being said, I think it's too early for Olivia to be stripped of power, I think the current pace is nice. But if we (players) have a choice to make Olivia as an idiot (from the company's point of view), then she needs to have a slave path.

Still, the above is another subject to discuss. What I originally wrote was, a good Olivia shouldn't demote MC no matter what.
If Olivia was either evil or had triggered any specific tag that align herself with the company's policy, then sure go for it.

It doesn't matter. It's nepotism.
It's contradictory. Sisters had to prove themselves, wasn't given freely.
 
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Since both had the same parents, then both would have the same start, if gender were the same.
But they didn't have the same parents. If Olivia had the same parents as the MC she wouldn't have been given the position of Warden.

Anyhow, instead of seeking for Olivia and giving her a shot to become one of the most powerful persons in the planet, that consequently would strip power from the sisters (if Olivia manages to become the head, then the sisters would have to answer to her, therefore they would become weaker.),
That would be true if the sisters were more united and not still in their father's thrall. But they're not united, and they still are in his thrall despite his death.

it would be more realistic to send assassins and have a 'accident' do happen to Olivia somewhere, or at least forge paper work from her birth, she didn't even knew she had a shot there. Seeking for to give her an opportunity to outshine and outrank them, it simply doesn't make any sense.
The sister who controls the assassins, Veronica, doesn't want to be on top, and she appears to be secretly backing Olivia. So no assassins. Dominique and Juliette were enemies more concerned about each other than Olivia until now. Alessandra has a soft spot for pretty girls who are sweet to her, and Olivia is both.

I mean, she didn't knew about her inheritance. The sisters didn't have any obligation with her.
But they do have an obligation because their father's Gambit demands it of them if they wish to inherit.

The most obvious thing that she can do, is usurp the title and power for herself, therefore she's a threat.
Why would they give her a chance in the first place?
Since you asked twice, I'll say it a second time. It's all part of their father's Gambit which is basically his Last Will. They don't dare risk their own chance to inherit by defying their father.

As for nepotism, in the real world yes, but things works a little differently in this fictional company. There, one needs to have the doctrinal merits and skills to rule.
If you believe that than I have a bridge I can sell you for real cheap. Actions count louder than words, and all of the people at the top are either Alexander's family or his lovers. Merit and skill by themselves weren't enough. In the end if the MC wants to climb to the top, he'll have to give Alexander Karlsson the grandson he desired.

Even the biological sisters couldn't raise to the top from their birth right alone, they needed to prove themselves, so it wasn't given away.
I'm not sure what you mean by biological sisters. Olivia is as much a "biological sister" as the rest. They're all Alexander Karlsson's daughters. They all have different mothers. Olivia was simply raised in a different environment, away from the others.

That being said, I think it's too early for Olivia to be stripped of power, I think the current pace is nice. But if we (players) have a choice to make Olivia as an idiot (from the company's point of view), then she needs to have a slave path.
No, I don't think that will happen until the end game after the Gambit is decided. Her position is part of the Gambit. If it's taken from her, or if she were enslaved, she would be at a disadvantage compared to her sisters. This is something the Gambit Queen would never allow. So it won't be taken from her, at least not until after the Gambit is decided.

It's contradictory. Sisters had to prove themselves, wasn't given freely.
Sure, but Olivia's new position is exactly that, an opportunity to prove herself. Nowhere in the story does it say that any of the Karlsson girls had to prove themselves the same way the MC is now.
 
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I am sure it was clarified, and I don't want to needlessly bloat the comments section, but can someone sum up the difference between the intial 5 General and the v0.5B General versions? Thanks.
I asked the same question and what i got to know is that there some bugfixes in the Sisters flags.
There is a script file which updates to Ver0.5 B

Edit: Found the file
Just place it in the game folder and overwrite
Fair warning though, I haven't tried using it since i am waiting for the Mod/WT update to play this update
 
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Usually i'm not into sadomaso-stuff at all. But after playing through multiple routes i have to say that i'm starting to like even the heavier parts. Nice work. (y)

But ... when you're on an evil K4 path it's not "almost" impossible, as the 0.4-wt says. It's literally impossible. No matter how hard i try, every time i'm missing one evil point. Has someone reached 14 evil points at the end of 0.4 without cheating?
 
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That would be true if the sisters were more united and not still in their father's thrall. But they're not united, and they still are in his thrall despite his death.
Generally speaking, people that are born from extremely rich families, tends to be very possessive about their inheritance. Power is extremely addictive and awesome, they're even breed to enjoy it to the fullest. They simply shouldn't let it go easily, for it would be an abysmal level of bad writing if it happens.

The sister who controls the assassins, Veronica, doesn't want to be on top, and she appears to be secretly backing Olivia. So no assassins. Dominique and Juliette were enemies more concerned about each other than Olivia until now. Alessandra has a soft spot for pretty girls who are sweet to her, and Olivia is both.
For what we know, each of these girls could be a billionaire. Each one can hire an army of assassins to do their biding at any time.
Also, hiring a professional to do a dirt work is not something exclusive that only one person can or would have access to. Any of them could at any moment. The only question is, does any of the have the inclination to do so?

They also they have connections with extremely important people, for the most rich and influential people on this world, would use their club to seek enjoyment free of repercussion. They can do whatever they want without ever worrying about any consequence.

Some sisters that obviously have connections with politics and higher ups in police are.
Dominique for she host literally death match arenas.
Veronica does illegal grotesque experiments.
Juliette often kills her slaves, y'know normally it raises questions.
Elena seems to be the most shady and politics involved, she's the one with most connections of them all.

As for Alessandra didn't really paid any attention to her, but it's just how the game goes. It's like living in a family where everyone is an architect, receiving same education and somehow pretending that does know anything about it.
Alessandra being soft or not towards Olivia doesn't mean she won't kill or screw over another person she doesn't have hatred for. She clearly already have a reason, Olivia is a direct competitor for the inheritance, that is enough already.
People don't kill people only due hatred, that is naive, if there's gains to be made, and one has the power to make it happen. And besides, if Olivia fails, she could become Alessandra's slave/pet. So a cherry on top of the cake.

Since you asked twice, I'll say it a second time. It's all part of their father's Gambit which is basically his Last Will. They don't dare risk their own chance to inherit by defying their father.
So either kill her, or make her fail the gambit. That's the only logical conclusion.
She might be blood related, but for all it's worth she's a stranger to all of them, which makes the decision super easy.

The only other play would use her stats and manipulate her to do their biding, increasing their personal chances.
But the thing is, on this corporation guideline so to speak, being stupid and useless gets you demoted.

No, I don't think that will happen until the end game after the Gambit is decided. Her position is part of the Gambit. If it's taken from her, or if she were enslaved, she would be at a disadvantage compared to her sisters. This is something the Gambit Queen would never allow. So it won't be taken from her, at least not until after the Gambit is decided.
I hope not. For it would remove any risk and conflict from the story, making it a great deal less interesting, since there isn't anything at stake, but also we wouldn't be able to explore the consequences.

If you believe that than I have a bridge I can sell you for real cheap. Actions count louder than words, and all of the people at the top are either Alexander's family or his lovers. Merit and skill by themselves weren't enough. In the end if the MC wants to climb to the top, he'll have to give Alexander Karlsson the grandson he desired.
For sure, but staying in power requires the skill of learning the game and adapting accordingly, or at very least giving the illusion of that. Being a clear idiot know nothing that often speaks about her own indecisiveness that never gets anything done, I'd say she shouldn't last long, but then again, plot armor.
Also thus far MC has been promoted solely on his merits and skills, and I'd have to say, he has ranked up way too fast already.
If he keeps on this pace, he would be able to reach K10 in less than a month. But I have a feeling he'll grow further than that.
 

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I asked the same question and what i got to know is that there some bugfixes in the Sisters flags.
There is a script file which updates to Ver0.5 B

Edit: Found the file
Just place it in the game folder and overwrite
Fair warning though, I haven't tried using it since i am waiting for the Mod/WT update to play this update
Good advice. I created the mod patch for v0.5 before v0.5b dropped so it doesn't have those particular changes in it's scripting. It was meant to tide over new players or those starting new game for different routing while I complete the new port engine. Regards and thanks for looking out.
 

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Hey Guys,Sorry If I Ask Poor Questions:
Is 0.5 Update Beta Or it Has Full Walkthrough Of Episode 5?
What is SanchoMod?:rolleyes:
 

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Astriedax,

Fair points, by and large. I noticed upon checking the walkthrough there are more dialog options for Olivia that miss any advancement then I remember, especially if you consider submissive points bad.

Cheers.
 
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