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I could be getting them switched up, I always do. Pretty sure it was Kiyomi and not Kitty, though.
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I could be wrong too, but I also thought it was Kiyomi that got the expanded role. I think your list is looking very well-reasoned.
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"Katsumi is the only character that has greatly changed from my original outline given some reactions from people about her -- I expanded her role quite a bit"- from her Discord. Katsumi was the one expanded upon, not Kiyomi.
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Good find! This makes my idea that the fire mask is Katsumi much weaker, if she was supposed to be a sort of throwaway character, why was she given a mask in that chapter? I just don't know who else it could be. The Jester and Fire masks are the hardest for me to figure out
I think Kiyomi and Katsumi are still the most likely two for those masks but deciding which is which is harder. For the jester, does that fit Katsumi's seemingly more chaotic nature or is there something to the earlier mask image where it's in the eye of the Gambit Queen's mask and there was a meeting where GQ and Kiyomi were present?
Holy cow...interesting!
I'll just throw out a few things as I getting back to some rendering...
1) Not every character in game is on there of course...it depends how I am viewing certain roles.
2) Chapter 2 screen contains at least one mask that partially or in whole represents someone not formally introduced in the game yet. So by default that image is still incomplete in terms of a full understanding.
3) A mask (or more than one mask on screen) is not always an exact 1 to 1 representation of a character (mostly it makes sense it would be though), perhaps it could represent something broader than one specific character...
4) Katsumi was indeed given an expanded role from my original giant road map of a script outline. Kiyomi was always a critical character (although by design introduced later) and has not been changed much.
I know this only makes it more confusing but for me this is how I think about the characters, sorry!
I'll just throw out a few things as I getting back to some rendering...
1) Not every character in game is on there of course...it depends how I am viewing certain roles.
2) Chapter 2 screen contains at least one mask that partially or in whole represents someone not formally introduced in the game yet. So by default that image is still incomplete in terms of a full understanding.
3) A mask (or more than one mask on screen) is not always an exact 1 to 1 representation of a character (mostly it makes sense it would be though), perhaps it could represent something broader than one specific character...
4) Katsumi was indeed given an expanded role from my original giant road map of a script outline. Kiyomi was always a critical character (although by design introduced later) and has not been changed much.
I know this only makes it more confusing but for me this is how I think about the characters, sorry!
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Tess, drip-feeding us information knowing that it will only make us dive deeper into the rabbit hole.
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Thanks tess, that actually clears up some stuff
For those like me too old to be remembering every screen heres all of them spoilered for space considerations. Thanks to Tess for putting them all in one place, saved alot of time.
Things of interesting,
Episode 4 all but confirms that Elena is gold mask
Now im fairly certain that kiyomi is the fire mask, always watching over Seth
Katsumi as the joker makes perfect sense now excellent job figuring that out guys and gals.
The red mask though is a prominent figure in all but six, could be the gambit queen but why is katsumi her eyes? Thats interesting.
The four sisters masks are also all but confirmed. Dominique and juliet growing closer as the chapters rise while elena gets further away from veronica and alessandra though. Interesting from a narrative standpoint.
For those like me too old to be remembering every screen heres all of them spoilered for space considerations. Thanks to Tess for putting them all in one place, saved alot of time.
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Episode 4 all but confirms that Elena is gold mask
Now im fairly certain that kiyomi is the fire mask, always watching over Seth
Katsumi as the joker makes perfect sense now excellent job figuring that out guys and gals.
The red mask though is a prominent figure in all but six, could be the gambit queen but why is katsumi her eyes? Thats interesting.
The four sisters masks are also all but confirmed. Dominique and juliet growing closer as the chapters rise while elena gets further away from veronica and alessandra though. Interesting from a narrative standpoint.
Two days ago i thought red one z olivia and pink one z veronica ! So basically i cant decode this !
Doesn't stop me keep assuming .. so, for now .. here goes ..
Big Red mask - Veronica or Alessandra
White dark skin masks(side by side) - Alessandra or Veronica
Lol(crazy, i know or not)
Pink, Laughing/sad masks - Olivia, Kane
Tears mask - Seth
Light Dark - Dominique Juliette
Fire/hidden mask - Gambit Queen !
Brass - Elena
Jester - Kiyomi !
Doesn't stop me keep assuming .. so, for now .. here goes ..
Big Red mask - Veronica or Alessandra
White dark skin masks(side by side) - Alessandra or Veronica
Lol(crazy, i know or not)
Pink, Laughing/sad masks - Olivia, Kane
Tears mask - Seth
Light Dark - Dominique Juliette
Fire/hidden mask - Gambit Queen !
Brass - Elena
Jester - Kiyomi !
Thanks Tess. I always assumed 1) was the case, but 2) and 3) now means I need rethink some things - and just when I thought it was all figured out! No need to apologize as you can see we're having fun with this. KG is pretty awesome that way.
A common theory (and it may not be right) is the two ninjas that meet with the Gambit Queen at the temple and later at the boat are Alessandra and Veronica respectively and that they could be working together. I'm not absolutely sure about Alessandra, but the conversation in the second meeting points to Veronica for me.
Just putting this out there as an idea for others to kick around, but maybe those masks could represent groups or factions with an obvious figurehead. A couple of examples might be the gold mask representing Elena and her protégé Katsumi, and the jester mask not always representing Kiyomi, but sometimes it includes others from The Vipers too.
Alternative theories are welcome.
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I think even with Tess' info, I'm sticking with my theories (for now) - with the following caveats. The big red mask that appears in Chap 2 and onwards may not just represent the GQ, put perhaps a little conspiracy - maybe it's three people, the GC, the unnamed board member and maybe Grym Gudinna for example - that is pulling the strings. I have now switched to thinking the Flame is Kiyomi and the Jester mask is Kitty - or at least, as Vlahurg1 has said, at least representing groups/ideas aligned around them. Downgrading my confidence in those three masks to low confidence, though. The flame and jester mask are hard to figure out compared to the others.
They are already very close and Veronica is the tech queen,so could have safe meeting with in her office or underground lair.
Sorry can't buy Kiyomi/vipers as jesters,they are no joke!
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The jester mask can be representative of the Fool arcana if you are familiar with Tarot cards. The Fool is called so not because he is an idiot but because he is yet to realize his full potential. This may not be the case at all here but the jester does not always mean jokers.
If we see it in the sense of a joker, I was thinking a joker could work as a game-changing wild card as in some card games. Just a thought.
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