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Its nice to see others taking the sub route, although, unless someone rescues you your stuck there. I played the Dom route as well as the sub route. and seem to remember someone saying I could be sub in private. I cant remember who or were. I just thought it best to keep to the Dom path, but I was jealous of the subs and would love to go back and change it to yes.
I chose to get close to Veronica, as there are several hints shes trying to help. No Veronica No Karlson group,as she does all the work while the rest , just enjoy the benefits. One other thing you all seem to presume. You need to have sex to make a Male heir. Im sure Veronica, would only need your sperm to create a Male heir and with her thing for modifying everything, Im sure she could select only Male sperm or even make improvements. So I hope Im there for more than just to make a heir.
 

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Playing from Brother & Sis POV is kind of waste. I just want play as MC
It's understandable that some people might resent playing a female character or a character that doesn't have much importance in the game, but in my opinion what makes this game special is the multiple playable characters it has, it gives much more importance. to decisions since what you choose with one can seriously affect another. Also at the plot level it is essential that there are several characters, at least Kane and Olivia, otherwise it would not work. And I personally like being an evil bitch with Olivia, but that's personal.
 

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I think it's less the fact that it's multiple MCs and more that it jumps a lot, but is mostly Kane. Seth has barely had anything thus far.

It's possible once this game is complete there could be a remastered/final version where you can play as each MC for entire episodes/playthroughs. I've played every route multiple times, there's a lot in this game, and it gives you a better view of all the moving pieces that way. Also outside of the 3 MCs, I'd almost even say Elena is like a secret 4th MC. But we shall see how that works out, there are already choices that affect her morality/character in the game already. I expect she'll have the biggest differences outside of Kane and Olivia. But it would also be quite a twist if Seth wound up taking on a bigger role and really having an impact on the game world.
For Seth to have the most important role would be very complicated, he is sunk in the utmost misery , even so, he would leave us all speechless if that happened.
 

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Yes, it occurs at the end of the last update in the sub path. They don't go as far as fucking, but they are directly involved in a sexual practice where Olivia uses Kane for her pleasure. That's why I intuit that at some point they will have a more serious sexual relationship between them, otherwise I wouldn't understand why do that scene if you're not going to go any further.
And here we go:
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Here's a comment in the walkthrough for specific points (written by Tess herself i guess):
"princesseyes + 1 (For seeing Kane’s dick during blowjob) (point system secret for now but obvious I think)"
 
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And here we go:
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Here's a comment in the walkthrough for specific points (written by Tess herself i guess):
"princesseyes + 1 (For seeing Kane’s dick during blowjob) (point system secret for now but obvious I think)"
It's going to seem absurd, but I don't think I've seen that render until now... you leave me stunned. I was referring to the scene in which Olivia sits on top of Kane but there is no tongue in between, and after that scene then Olivia puts on a dildo mask and uses it. I'll have to check where that render comes out because I'm not falling right now.
 

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I'll have to check where that render comes out because I'm not falling right now.
It happens while Kiyomi is occupied with Seths dick. Comment Olivia (couple of lines before): "You don't get to watch Kane. You concentrate on me. Lick away."

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It was already heading in this direction during the pool scene with Elena:

Kane: "Mistress, it doesn't matter who you order me to lick and where...I'll obey." Referring to Olivia.
 
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Its nice to see others taking the sub route, although, unless someone rescues you your stuck there. I played the Dom route as well as the sub route. and seem to remember someone saying I could be sub in private. I cant remember who or were. I just thought it best to keep to the Dom path, but I was jealous of the subs and would love to go back and change it to yes.
I chose to get close to Veronica, as there are several hints shes trying to help. No Veronica No Karlson group,as she does all the work while the rest , just enjoy the benefits. One other thing you all seem to presume. You need to have sex to make a Male heir. Im sure Veronica, would only need your sperm to create a Male heir and with her thing for modifying everything, Im sure she could select only Male sperm or even make improvements. So I hope Im there for more than just to make a heir.
Making the heir is the most important part but having him succeed in gambit is also a huge part. If he turns not to be worth it they kill him and keep their fingers crossed that seth is worthy I reckon. Besides theirs rules and Id imagine test tube babies arent part of alexanders rules
 
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I know that Tess' stance on incest is serious, and it is understandable since she was working if I am not mistaken in a program to help families that had gone through abusive situations or something like that, but if I am not mistaken I think that little by little it is being discovered in the story (if it has not been done already) that in reality Kane and Olivia are not siblings, therefore there should not be any problem with having that kind of content in the game. Also we must remember that in the last update there is physical contact between both characters and Olivia reflects that she has been thinking about the proposal of having something with Kane. Anyway if there is not going to be any kind of sexual relationship between the two, what need is there to bring them closer sexually or even raise the situation? It's creating expectation for nothing.
Just because they are not biological siblings, doesn't mean their relationship isn't, and therefore it would still be morally wrong. I know it's a porn game and all, and horny dudes gotta be horny, but Tess is a good dev and won't overstep that boundary.
 

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Just because they are not biological siblings, doesn't mean their relationship isn't, and therefore it would still be morally wrong. I know it's a porn game and all, and horny dudes gotta be horny, but Tess is a good dev and won't overstep that boundary.
That "limit" that you say that Tess will not pass has already passed, at the moment when Kane licks Olivia's pussy and at the moment when she puts a dildo in his face and uses it to masturbate she's already gone through it, so I wouldn't understand why stop now. But I don't think she'll cross the limit either, as a player I want her to cross it but I know that Tess's "convictions" deny her.
 

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It happens while Kiyomi is occupied with Seths dick. Comment Olivia (couple of lines before): "You don't get to watch Kane. You concentrate on me. Lick away."

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It was already heading in this direction during the pool scene with Elena:

Kane: "Mistress, it doesn't matter who you order me to lick and where...I'll obey." Referring to Olivia.
I've already found the render, I didn't remember seeing it because the last time I played was a long time ago, thanks for telling me where it was.
 
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But I don't think she'll cross the limit either, as a player I want her to cross it but I know that Tess's "convictions" deny her.
Then why are there different variables for the state of the relationship between Olivia and Kane? We already have "sis_bro_p" and "sis_team". Why another "secret" one?

it would still be morally wrong
And having someone killed because of boredom isn't? Geez, this whole game just screams "morally wrong"....loud and clear.
 

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Then why are there different variables for the state of the relationship between Olivia and Kane? We already have "sis_bro_p" and "sis_team". Why another "secret" one?
The logical thing is that there is an incest route (although it cannot be called incest since they are not siblings) but Tess has said so many times that she does not want a sibling relationship that I already doubt what can happen or not. But the logical thing would be that seeing the situation between Olivia and Kane there is a route for them.
 
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But the logical thing would be that seeing the situation between Olivia and Kane there is a route for them.
Assuming Tess herself wrote the walkthrough after Zoey Raven stopped after Chapter 3....

0.6 Walkthrough (very open to suggestions on it, I am not skilled at writing this kind of thing)
...she hints in that direction everytime when i comes to the variable "princesseyes". So there is actually a chance that there's a Kane/Olivia route.
 

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Assuming Tess herself wrote the walkthrough after Zoey Raven stopped after Chapter 3....



...she hints in that direction everytime when i comes to the variable "princesseyes". So there is actually a chance that there's a Kane/Olivia route.
Yes, I hope the chance be real, we will know in the next episode. Keep your fingers crossed
 
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Just because they are not biological siblings, doesn't mean their relationship isn't, and therefore it would still be morally wrong. I know it's a porn game and all, and horny dudes gotta be horny, but Tess is a good dev and won't overstep that boundary.
Hilarious that you talk about morals in reference to this game. There are NO MORALS for the people with power in this world the Dev created...the people with morals in this world are the ones that end up as slaves.
 
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