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Just watched the intro. Just wondering the game is gender locked, like femdom only applies to guys & MC (only dom male possible I assume) can only dom females.

It doesn't make sense in a sub path as there are not likely many dom males around, but on the dom path it'd feel more normal if MC took part in doming a sub male with a female character, or even took initiative pn his own.

Always thought D/s preferences were on an equal standing with gender on sexual orientation. Like you may not enjoy kissing a guy but you might still enjoy whipping him ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

Let me know your thoughts if you see this dev. Also about whether it may be there in the future if it's not there now.
Gonna try it out now. So many variables, the code will be fun :giggle:
 

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Am I the only one that keeps wishing non-sub Kane and Olivia get together and rule the company... half siblings (or not).... :)
Currently it doesn't seem like Olivia's K2 decision means anything in regards to Kane if he's non-sub.

In any case, loving the game.
That one is definitely in my final top 3 for the game. Another ending that I would like to experience (although I see it as complicated) is to see how Kane takes precedence over Olivia as "King", making it gradually become Kane who dominates Olivia, although as I say it seems very complicated to me that it could happen since I haven't seen any clues that might indicate this ending.
 

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domtheatreeviltwo is redundant.
It is dependent on dominiquestestpass, which can be only achieved by choosing dominique for 1st visit. So that condition in dominique 2nd visit & the following scene is redundant, unless devs plans to give another way to get testpass flag for the dominique 2nd visit route.
 

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So the lake scene basically reveals the identity of the [????] Daughter & the Gambit Queen. Good job (y)
Ofc it might be a fakeout by the dev, in which case, good job (y)
 

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Lol. You basically said "It's complicated" using so many words.
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"Didn't like her and i prefer K5 path more to be honest."- I liked being ahead of the others from the start ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ Love the power difference. Just wish the dev would involve the lower rank guys more to showcase the difference in power better.
Would've loved to see Zach cry at this cage fitting. Looking at the code, it's not even there in the sub route(which makes sense as sub route is about the MC experiencing it himself not others.)
 
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Lol. You basically said "It's complicated" using so many words.
More like - i don't know. I have some theories thats gamble connected to Alexanders's past with his sisters. And this is about something like - Could you remain good person in the struggle for power or being in power? Something like secret option to win.

I liked being ahead of the others from the start ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
As am i. But then i figure it out that i can become K8 from K5 just as easily. But on K5 i could get more points with Kwame. Maybe i could make him one of my subordinates in the future. And i want to help our friend Jake and make him K5 at least. Zach.... i am not sure i can save him.
 

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As am i. But then i figure it out that i can become K8 from K5 just as easily. But on K5 i could get more points with Kwame. Maybe i could make him one of my subordinates in the future. And i want to help our friend Jake and make him K5 at least. Zach.... i am not sure i can save him.
I actually picked Chanel to avoid points with kwame to keep him at k5 on day1. That way you get a nice 345 line up.
Zach is pretty much in the sub path, as a slave.I really hope to have some involvement in that.
Jake is more variable, depending on mc & sis. I'd probably have him end up under sis feet, since he wanted that since episode 1.
Kwame is the main competition as Juliette said. I don't want him too high up. I'd have used kpass on him if given the option (guessing that might just be what you have to do). Then there's the scene with his wife...

Though a male subordinates might be nice. I wonder if the dev might give options to punish male lower ranks ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
 
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I actually picked Chanel to avoid points with kwame to keep him at k5 on day1. That way you get a nice 345 line up.
Zach is pretty much in the sub path, as a slave.I really hope to have some involvement in that.
Jake is more variable, depending on mc & sis. I'd probably have him end up under sis feet, since he wanted that since episode 1.
Kwame is the main competition as Juliette said. I don't want him too high up. I'd have used kpass on him if given the option (guessing that might just be what you have to do). Then there's the scene with his wife...

Though a male subordinates might be nice, I wonder if the dev might give options to punish male lower ranks ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯
Damn, you are ruthless. I prefer play as goody-who-shoes.
Competition you say. Funny thing is, there is not just each individual score. But also - pod score. But i saw it only on sub path and it didn't play any role. I mean, when we see pod's competetions?
Honestly this program becoming too complicated now that dom Kane will also control female pod. I am respecting dev imagination, but i hope she can deliver what she is planning.
 
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Competition you say. Funny thing is, there is not just each individual score. But also - pod score. But i saw it only on sub path and it didn't play any role. I mean, when we see pod's competetions?
I didn't play the sub path (don't do female or sub MC). But it was also mentioned when the kpass was introduced. I figured k9 mc, k7 kwane(as competitor/rival he won't fall below k5 easily). so k9 leader, k7 sub-leader with 2 obedient slave would trump 4 k4 or even 4 k5 group (remember the other groups are pathetic is the info given by the guards)
 
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I didn't play the sub path (don't do female or sub MC). But it was also mentioned when the kpass was introduced. I figured k9 mc, k7 kwane(as competitor/rival he won't fall below k5 easily). so k9 leader, k7 sub-leader with 2 obedient slave would trump 4 k4 or even 4 k5 group (remember the other groups are pathetic is the info given by the guards)
Didn't like that either. But sub path have many new interactions and quite unique. For example,
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But yea - Many hardcore sub scenes with Kane.
 

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Didn't like that either. But sub path have many new interactions and quite unique. For example,
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But yea - Many hardcore sub scenes with Kane.
No point in more interactions if you don't like them.
I think this may be one of the reason you don't see much of the pod on the dom route - dev thought ppl not playing the sub route might not enjoy men being dominated. Even had a dev note about 'even in dom path the world around was still femdom'

Pity for me, would've like to see more scenes, since as long as the MC is dom & not dommed himself, I dont mind maledom femdom whatever.
MCdom would be my preferred genre lol. (No female MC tho, can't get immersive in that setting)

Like I enjoyed the branding scene a lot, how others were marked but MC was not. Would've ve loved a similar scene for chastity cage fitting, etc.
 
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No point in more interactions if you don't like them.
I think this may be one of the reason you don't see much of the pod on the dom route - dev thought ppl not playing the sub route might not enjoy men being dominated. Even had a dev note about 'even in dom path the world around was still femdom'

Pity for me, would've like to see more scenes, since as long as the MC is dom & not dommed himself, I dont mind maledom femdom whatever.
MCdom would be my preferred genre lol. (No female MC tho, can't get immersive in that setting)

Like I enjoyed the branding scene a lot, how others were marked but MC was not. Would've ve loved a similar scene for chastity cage fitting, etc.
In my opinion, the developer has adequately assessed the ratio of players who like to play the Dom route while maintaining the traditional heterosexual nuances in dominance. Therefore the MC Dom playing the GoodDom/EvilDom routes is only personally involved in domination over the opposite sex. I guess it is all based on the same world-wide % ratio of people who consider themselves heterosexual to people with bisexual orientation. And there are many times more of the former, such is life.

For the same reason, traditional heterosexual audiences who want to push the boundaries of their perception of the "forbidden" and watch porn with trans people usually prefer feminine looking TS models to those who have rough male facial features and a man-like body. The loyalty of many players who hate NTR in porn games to the so-called lesbian NTR, which in their minds is not considered as such, can also be included in the same vein. Lesbian domination can also be added to this "piggy bank". Audiences are loyal to lesbian porn, and to beautiful women in particular.

I'm not a psychologist or medic with a degree, but personally I'd attribute such a thing to a willingness to accept new fetishes without the player/viewer feeling inner discomfort. I'll be honest, the dominance of male MC over other males will cause such mental discomfort to a large number of heterosexual players.

And if we talk about femdom in relation to men, the same pattern can be seen. Those heterosexual men who like this fetish (I don't like femdom) also prefer to see a woman (the opposite sex) as the top rather than a man. This is as true for porn games as it is for regular movie porn. So, in my opinion, it makes no sense to go against one's nature and there are boundaries that people are not willing to cross unless they have a predisposition to do so.
 
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Wait. i just read charts more closely.
So that poor old man from evil Olivia route is the brother of another poor husband man. Well, now thats just sad.
 

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In my opinion, the developer has adequately assessed the ratio of players who like to play the Dom route while maintaining the traditional heterosexual nuances in dominance. Therefore the MC Dom playing the GoodDom/EvilDom routes is only personally involved in domination over the opposite sex. I guess it is all based on the same world-wide % ratio of people who consider themselves heterosexual to people with bisexual orientation. And there are many times more of the former, such is life.

For the same reason, traditional heterosexual audiences who want to push the boundaries of their perception of the "forbidden" and watch porn with trans people usually prefer feminine looking TS models to those who have rough male facial features and a man-like body. The loyalty of many players who hate NTR in porn games to the so-called lesbian NTR, which in their minds is not considered as such, can also be included in the same vein. Lesbian domination can also be added to this "piggy bank". Audiences are loyal to lesbian porn, and to beautiful women in particular.

I'm not a psychologist or medic with a degree, but personally I'd attribute such a thing to a willingness to accept new fetishes without the player/viewer feeling inner discomfort. I'll be honest, the dominance of male MC over other males will cause such mental discomfort to a large number of heterosexual players.

And if we talk about femdom in relation to men, the same pattern can be seen. Those heterosexual men who like this fetish (I don't like femdom) also prefer to see a woman (the opposite sex) as the top rather than a man. This is as true for porn games as it is for regular movie porn. So, in my opinion, it makes no sense to go against one's nature and there are boundaries that people are not willing to cross unless they have a predisposition to do so.
I know. I basically said the same thing, only much shorter.
It's a pity since for me personally I don't care much about gender if it's heavy D/s like shown in-game. I mean whip a ass, male or female doesn't change anything about the interaction.
You do get some view in the later part of the story though, like Zach & Amy contest scene. Maybe with the female pod balancing things, more of the male pod can be seen. Also most early scenes MC was just building up his rank anyway, & now he is in management position maybe?

Anyway, I understood the dev (& your) reasoning, which is why I felt it was a pity, not that it didn't make sense. I also felt kinda weird the pod just disappeared, but a lot of the sub path also seems to be solo like that ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

Tl;dr:
Would I have liked to see more of the pod in the Dom route? Yeah, sure. Was I unware of the points you pointed out? No. Even my 1st post here I asked about this issue because I expected it already.

Sorry to have made you write so much. I basically agree with the points logically & dev probably does too, which is why gender lines are maintained even in the non-sexual aspects of power & control dominance shown in game. ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯


Edit: I also wasn't specifically talking about male-on-male scenes, or even anything sexual. Just more involvement of the known characters. Like the branding scene, or the Zach & Amy scene. More scenes about the pod, highlighting the difference in treatment between MC & them would've been nice too. (Particularly would've liked to see the chastity chage fitting, in the same process as the branding scene)
But in extension to your points, many ppl playing Dom route might dislike male-sub scenes in general even if it's female-on-male. The dev notes talking about "surrounded by Femdom even in Dom route" made me question if ppl complained about seeing male pod being dominated scenes(like branding scene) on dom route ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

With the Zach & Amy scene, & the MC getting more power, maybe we will get to see more of the male pod later on, especially with the female pod balancing things out. Maybe MC even gets some power over them (like in the Zach scene. Deciding the punishment is not exactly sexual, but definitely a part of power-play D/s)
 
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