VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[Don Sucio]

whats the weirdest build you guy have worked on? My current weirdest build is an evil dom kane and a good sub Olivia. Virtually impossible to go k9 without cheating with that setup

I also took that path hoping that Kane could eventually dominate Olivia, but so far it hasn't helped

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

I find that interesting. I'm dom evil both so I can't even imagine playing otherwise. I enjoy the content on these so much but now am curious how much different it would be to have her be the opposite.

Point blank is it worth it so far?

Not yet. Olivia's has yet to become a sub yet and you occasionally have to randomly do good stuff to get sis bro points and princess eyes points. If what tess has said is true the sub and dom choices should start to take effect this update, we shall see.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

Not yet. Olivia's has yet to become a sub yet and you occasionally have to randomly do good stuff to get sis bro points and princess eyes points. If what tess has said is true the sub and dom choices should start to take effect this update, we shall see.

Thanks. I definitely will be keeping an eye out

 

[Don Sucio]

Not yet. Olivia's has yet to become a sub yet and you occasionally have to randomly do good stuff to get sis bro points and princess eyes points. If what tess has said is true the sub and dom choices should start to take effect this update, we shall see.

Anyway, is it possible that Kane can get to dominate Olivia? I think that there is nothing that reflects that option since Olivia as such is the main protagonist and so far no progress has been seen in that direction. I know it's a game based mainly on femdom (a path that I've chosen too) but to what extent can we be given the choice of turning Olivia into a "slave" of Kane?

 

[Private YO]

Anyway, is it possible that Kane can get to dominate Olivia? I think that there is nothing that reflects that option since Olivia as such is the main protagonist and so far no progress has been seen in that direction. I know it's a game based mainly on femdom (a path that I've chosen too) but to what extent can we be given the choice of turning Olivia into a "slave" of Kane?

For that dev has to give us a choice to make Olivia to commit a grave mistake (might only happen if she is in good sis path) that would cause the Karlson sisters to make her into slave of their and then give them to Kane

 

[Don Sucio]

For that dev has to give us a choice to make Olivia to commit a grave mistake (might only happen if she is in good sis path) that would cause the Karlson sisters to make her into slave of their and then give them to Kane

I hadn't thought about it, but it would be a good way to lead that way, what I don't know is what kind of mistake could make the Karlssons turn Olivia into a slave. And it would be necessary to know if the developer wants this to happen, since if she does not want it then it is impossible for it to happen.

 

[Jstforme]

I hadn't thought about it, but it would be a good way to lead that way, what I don't know is what kind of mistake could make the Karlssons turn Olivia into a slave.

If there is one thing this game has shown over and over, is there doesn't have to be a reason. It would just take one sister to decide Olivia is weak or just decide to have a laugh at breaking yet another powerful person. Ultimately, (at least on the dom path) I think it'll be up to Kane if that happens.

 

[Don Sucio]

If there is one thing this game has shown over and over, is there doesn't have to be a reason. It would just take one sister to decide Olivia is weak or just decide to have a laugh at breaking yet another powerful person. Ultimately, (at least on the dom path) I think it'll be up to Kane if that happens.

It is also true that if the Karlssons see that Olivia is weak they can lower her level, since they are not looking for weakness but strength and domination. But if there would have to be a strong enough reason for that to happen, more than anything so as not to feel the change too abrupt, something that would worsen the experience of the game. And keep in mind that so far there has been no negative behavior on the part of the sisters to Olivia's sub decisions, which in my opinion makes it even more difficult for this change to happen.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

It is also true that if the Karlssons see that Olivia is weak they can lower her level, since they are not looking for weakness but strength and domination. But if there would have to be a strong enough reason for that to happen, more than anything so as not to feel the change too abrupt, something that would worsen the experience of the game. And keep in mind that so far there has been no negative behavior on the part of the sisters to Olivia's sub decisions, which in my opinion makes it even more difficult for this change to happen.

There have been subtle ones like alessandra noting to Veronica that Olivia's subservient. But yes, ultimately assuming the queen is kane's mom, the only way she'll reap any consequences is if Kane decides to do so. I dont see Callista or Elena letting the sisters fuck with Olivia. Besides the only one that would is probably Juliette and juliettes too preoccupied with the gambit to do anything

 

[Don Sucio]

There have been subtle ones like alessandra noting to Veronica that Olivia's subservient. But yes, ultimately assuming the queen is kane's mom, the only way she'll reap any consequences is if Kane decides to do so. I dont see Callista or Elena letting the sisters fuck with Olivia. Besides the only one that would is probably Juliette and juliettes too preoccupied with the gambit to do anything

It is definitely difficult for this situation to arise, taking into account all the obstacles that we find ourselves in, if we wanted to carry it out, there would be many variants to take into account and the spectrum of power of the sisters would have to be greatly modified in order to carry it out. something that at the level of writing by the developer I see as very complicated, since, as I said before, it would have to change the entire power structure.

 

[Jstforme]

You ask me, Olivia is set up for the fall from the beginning. If you think about it, everyone from Kane, the queen, the Carlson sisters, all executives and anyone with a lick of power had to suffer in some big way or fashion before they ascended to power. Olivia is the only one in the game that just had it all handed to her on a silver platter, having to do nothing but exist to gain her position. It seems obvious to me that Olivia has a rude awakening coming at some point...but we'll see what the Dev does with it.

 

[Varrilete]

You ask me, Olivia is set up for the fall from the beginning. If you think about it, everyone from Kane, the queen, the Carlson sisters, all executives and anyone with a lick of power had to suffer in some big way or fashion before they ascended to power. Olivia is the only one in the game that just had it all handed to her on a silver platter, having to do nothing but exist to gain her position. It seems obvious to me that Olivia has a rude awakening coming at some point...but we'll see what the Dev does with it.

In my play, MC and sister will be the rulers of all, with extreme sadism. I will make if possible Juliette MC´s slave, for now MC is "ally" of the sadistic bitch

 

[Jstforme]

In my play, MC and sister will be the rulers of all, with extreme sadism. I will make if possible Juliette MC´s slave, for now MC is "ally" of the sadistic bitch

I have that playthrough saved as well and is one of my favorites...but reasoning still stands that Olivia has had to do nothing for what she has. The Gambit is structured in a way to prove worth before taking the throne...suffering and doling out suffering is Ying and yang to the Carlson's, the Ying for Olivia has yet to be seen/happen.

 

[Stan5851]

..but reasoning still stands that Olivia has had to do nothing for what she has. The Gambit is structured in a way to prove worth before taking the throne...suffering and doling out suffering is Ying and yang to the Carlson's, the Ying for Olivia has yet to be seen/happen.

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[Gamer8n8]

You ask me, Olivia is set up for the fall from the beginning. If you think about it, everyone from Kane, the queen, the Carlson sisters, all executives and anyone with a lick of power had to suffer in some big way or fashion before they ascended to power. Olivia is the only one in the game that just had it all handed to her on a silver platter, having to do nothing but exist to gain her position. It seems obvious to me that Olivia has a rude awakening coming at some point...but we'll see what the Dev does with it.

She is a born queen, lol
But hey, she been raised her whole life to prepare for this world., to be tough and talented, to be ready for karlssons world. The sisters raised by Alexander and olivia by Callista, thats actually the key point of this game. We dont know still more about olivia, dev is giving subtle hints about her talents, about how callista raised her. We see everyone raving about her mind and strength. And Juliette and Dominique fearing about her rise. She still z below her sisters status, she is getting there and learning more about power.

Eventually its how we play her, her choices include some sub points, which juliette n dominique may use to show em she is weak. she can get corrupted with power affecting her chances to take the throne or she controls everything. There gonna be many endings !!

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

You ask me, Olivia is set up for the fall from the beginning. If you think about it, everyone from Kane, the queen, the Carlson sisters, all executives and anyone with a lick of power had to suffer in some big way or fashion before they ascended to power. Olivia is the only one in the game that just had it all handed to her on a silver platter, having to do nothing but exist to gain her position. It seems obvious to me that Olivia has a rude awakening coming at some point...but we'll see what the Dev does with it.

I believe Callista's been prepping her from a young age, however Im not sure that Callista truly accounted for the den of vipers. right now Elena's protecting as is Veronica and I assume Yvette. But of the others in power... Juliette would kill the shit out of her if she knows what dom knows, Dom might be convinced to do the same if Kane convinces her to embrace her evil side and If Alessandra can work on Kane and turn him againt her, thats when the real shit would hit the fan.

That being said, as long as Kane has her back, she should be fine.

 

[Jstforme]

You all have very good points, and I agree Callista groomed her and seemingly cleared all obstacles for Olivia, giving her the red carpet treatment to the throne (I just can’t see how Calista would think the Karlson’s would just roll over and accept it though). I guess it falls down to my belief in if it’s too good to be true, it isn’t…plus I highly dislike silver/gold spooners…so I’ll have fun with a sadistic Olivia, and see where the cards fall.

 

[Private YO]

You all have very good points, and I agree Callista groomed her and seemingly cleared all obstacles for Olivia, giving her the red carpet treatment to the throne (I just can’t see how Calista would think the Karlson’s would just roll over and accept it though). I guess it falls down to my belief in if it’s too good to be true, it isn’t…plus I highly dislike silver/gold spooners…so I’ll have fun with a sadistic Olivia, and see where the cards fall.

Also At the beginning, Kane does say it was a setup to get him and jake into jail. So Kane actually didn't commit any crime willingly.

So it is not fair for Karlson sisters to take Oliva to the high table with red-carpet and planned to get Kane to the slave system by catching him in the crime that he did not commit.


If there is no way Olivia get to the lower level as Slave just like Kane. I would say Developers view of the game is unjustified.
or
may be dev should have introduced at some point that Karlson sisters never had Male executive equal their level or Z rank employee level or above, since their father. And due to what they had to go through Alexander Karlsons methods the sisters. They came to mentality that they never wanted Kane (who is obviously male) to go to the higher rank just like they wanted Olivia to be.

So they made a setup to make it look like Kane committed a crime and then put him in jail and then taken as slave level anything in K rank category, not the Z rank.

 

[MilesEdgeworth]

Not really, Kanes going through the system to prove that he can raise through it like Alexander did. Olivias basically a vessel for the "perfect" baby if shes chosen by Kane. They serve two entirely different purposes

 

[Gamer8n8]

Also At the beginning, Kane does say it was a setup to get him and jake into jail. So Kane actually didn't commit any crime willingly.

So it is not fair for Karlson sisters to take Oliva to the high table with red-carpet and planned to get Kane to the slave system by catching him in the crime that he did not commit.


If there is no way Olivia get to the lower level as Slave just like Kane. I would say Developers view of the game is unjustified.
or
may be dev should have introduced at some point that Karlson sisters never had Male executive equal their level or Z rank employee level or above, since their father. And due to what they had to go through Alexander Karlsons methods the sisters. They came to mentality that they never wanted Kane (who is obviously male) to go to the higher rank just like they wanted Olivia to be.

So they made a setup to make it look like Kane committed a crime and then put him in jail and then taken as slave level anything in K rank category, not the Z rank.

Uh, Olivia z Alexander's blood, Kane is not .. there is a big difference. Also, Kane Olivia and Seth all vetted for some time and may be they decided Kane needs to be tested and Olivia can step right in to be an executive or they wanna test her for something else we don't know yet !! The sisters were pushed by Alexander to get stronger in his own methods. Olivia z raised by callista in a different way, and may be callista didn't even need to push her .. we don't know the full story yet ! In one scene Gambit queen said 'Ironically Olivia probably is best equipped for the world at the start' .. what does that mean ? Olivia may simply be the best of all of em. She is the one.

Kane z still the key player though due to everything involved with Gambit. So, a lot depend on him. That's what I am most interested in, to see Olivia face off with Kane. But Since we playing both Olivia and Kane we can explore/control different routes.