VN Ren'Py Karlsson's Gambit [v0.8.2 Test] [Grym Gudinna Games]

[луна]

While playing one of my doms saves, Nadia is talking with Otto and the other two masked persons says that Kane is K7, but at the end of 6.2 he was K9. Its a bug ?

 

[Sancho1969]

While playing one of my doms saves, Nadia is talking with Otto and the other two masked persons says that Kane is K7, but at the end of 6.2 he was K9. Its a bug ?

Read it more carefully: Otto - "He's moved up to at least K7 now...he seems to be doing well."

 

[gregers]

While playing one of my doms saves, Nadia is talking with Otto and the other two masked persons says that Kane is K7, but at the end of 6.2 he was K9. Its a bug ?

Otto says he's moved up to at least K7. Just the dev taking a slight shortcut rather than writing a separate line variation for every rank.

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[Anonymous100]

Is it just me or if you get in allesandra secret sub route during your dom playthrough, you get put in k7 in this update even if you finished as k9 in the previous one?

 

[tarsgrim]

I really love this game it's the first one I've come across with the femdom theme where you can turn the tables and that makes it special for me. As i try to be pretty good i hope i can guide dominic and veronica to a point where they are not complete sadists i enjoy the dom/sub kink but there always has to be a point of love in it otherwise it is just pure cruelty. Alexandra needs a good spanking to make her feel what it feels like to be powerless. juliete is beyond salvation

 

[Sancho1969]

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Edit: Sancho Panza Ninja

GOAT

 

[Leo Humilis]

Ugh... you Sub players never mentioned to me in the last update that the SubK level reporting in SanchoMod was a bit borked. It was showing K6/K7 for SubK6/SubK7 (super secret sub path). I'll sort that as I populate the gallery with the new sub scenes to make the above public pre-release into the final mod public release.

Can't never trust a sub to report bugs... sheesh

That's because SubK6+ path is, in fact, more "dom" than "sub" (from a sub perspective) and has not been very popular among sub players (though, I suppose, it's more "sub" than "dom" from a dom perspective, so it probably hasn't been very popular among dom players either).

 

[tarsgrim]

Is it just me or if you get in allesandra secret sub route during your dom playthrough, you get put in k7 in this update even if you finished as k9 in the previous one?

I think your save is screwed, if you are on the pure route Dom you cannot enter the sub route the alex, for this you have to start in k4 go to k5 in the first evaluation and then in the second the maximum you can reach is k7 if I remember correctly

 

[Sancho1969]

That's because SubK6+ path is, in fact, more "dom" than "sub" (from a sub perspective) and has not been very popular among sub players (though, I suppose, it's more "sub" than "dom" from a dom perspective, so it probably hasn't been very popular among dom players either).

Again, please read more carefully: I stated those are " (super secret sub path) " .. (that's what Tess basically refers to them as). so yes, they aren't the same as normal K5 or lower Subs. I've got this bud... not my first rodeo although I have been bucked off a couple of times in the past

 

[Sancho1969]

Is it just me or if you get in allesandra secret sub route during your dom playthrough, you get put in k7 in this update even if you finished as k9 in the previous one?

I think your save is screwed, if you are on the pure route Dom you cannot enter the sub route the alex, for this you have to start in k4 go to k5 in the first evaluation and then in the second the maximum you can reach is k7 if I remember correctly

Wait... I remember coding the guide in the mod for this situation... there's code that changes the KLvl during a specific Allesandra setup... give me a bit to look it up real quick and I'll let you know what's what.

 

[Leo Humilis]

Again, please read more carefully: I stated those are " (super secret sub path) " .. (that's what Tess basically refers to them as). so yes, they aren't the same as normal K5 or lower Subs. I've got this bud... not my first rodeo although I have been bucked off a couple of times in the past

IMHO, this path should be more properly referred to as "switch path". But, I suppose, from Tess' (superdom) perspective, it might have seemed like a "sub" path

 

[луна]

Read it more carefully: Otto - "He's moved up to at least K7 now...he seems to be doing well."

Ahh, since I don't understand much English, I thought it said it was K7.

 

[Sennistrasz]

Is it just me or if you get in allesandra secret sub route during your dom playthrough, you get put in k7 in this update even if you finished as k9 in the previous one?

On Discord it's been reported as a bug in the test version, not sure the status of that in the final, you'll have to check there.

 

[луна]

Is it just me or if you get in allesandra secret sub route during your dom playthrough, you get put in k7 in this update even if you finished as k9 in the previous one?

Yeah, i was playing that route and she changes Kane to K7.
And if you reject her and Alyssa, she changes it to K5.

 

[Sancho1969]

Wait... I remember coding the guide in the mod for this situation... there's code that changes the KLvl during a specific Allesandra setup... give me a bit to look it up real quick and I'll let you know what's what.

On Discord it's been reported as a bug in the test version, not sure the status of that in the final, you'll have to check there.

Yeah, i was playing that route and she changes Kane to K7.
And if you reject her and Alyssa, she changes it to K5.

Okay, reviewing there's no code in Ep7 that changes any KLvl to a K7 (but it can be removed), but there is some for SubK7. These are different. K7 is Dom and SubK7 is one of the "secret" sub routes (they are basically the upgrade from a previous Sub to more of a Dom leaning path).

Note also that there are other ways to lose this "secret" sub pathing (SubK5 through SubK7), for example:


You can NOT get to the Alessandra Sub menus/scenes (like the above) if on the Dom pathing EXCEPT from what appears to be the bug some of you folks are experiencing with (Alessandra's Scale) as noted in this preceding conditional:

    if subk5 or subk6 or subk7 or alessandra_scale <= -3:  #SanchoMod: Alessandra's Scale could be a bug here for Dom path Player's
        jump secretsubwakeuptime  #SanchoMod: Secret Sub Path
    elif k1pro or k2 or k3 or k4:
        jump subwakeuptime  #SanchMod: Regular Sub Path
    elif True:
        jump domwakeuptime  #SanchoMod: Regular Dom Paths

So, yes, there's technically a possible bug in the VN's release that will effect an expected low margin of player's on the Dom pathing with an oddly negative Alessandra Scale. I've reviewed some of my dozens of Dom saves and most are no lower than -2 for her Scale. It's a bug nonetheless if it can be -3 or less without cheating the stats.

The question now is if the Player can be on the Dom path and be awarded -3 or less AlessandraScale WITHOUT cheating. I'll see what I can find after I'm done finishing the mod's Maintenance Update from last night.

 

[tarsgrim]

I don't know why but I think that Tess is very cool with the Alessandra route, a guy who submits to her wishes but doesn't let himself be overwhelmed by others

 

[Leo Humilis]

I don't know why but I think that Tess is very cool with the Alessandra route, a guy who submits to her wishes but doesn't let himself be overwhelmed by others

As I've mentioned before, this path should, IMHO, properly be called a "switch path". But, I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of the game fanbase are either pure subs (like your truly) or pure doms... so I do not imagine this path will ever be very popular (since it's too "dommy" for sub players and too "subby" for dom players).

 

[Sennistrasz]

Okay, reviewing there's no code in Ep7 that changes any KLvl to a K7 (but it can be removed), but there is some for SubK7. These are different. K7 is Dom and SubK7 is one of the "secret" sub routes (they are basically the upgrade from a previous Sub to more of a Dom leaning path).

Note also that there are other ways to lose this "secret" sub pathing (SubK5 through SubK7), for example:
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You can NOT get to the Alessandra Sub menus/scenes (like the above) if on the Dom pathing EXCEPT from what appears to be the bug some of you folks are experiencing with (Alessandra's Scale) as noted in this preceding conditional:

    if subk5 or subk6 or subk7 or alessandra_scale <= -3:
        jump secretsubwakeuptime  #SanchoMod: Secret Sub Path
    elif k1pro or k2 or k3 or k4:
        jump subwakeuptime  #SanchMod: Regular Sub Path
    elif True:
        jump domwakeuptime  #SanchoMod: Regular Dom Paths

So, yes, there's technically a bug in the VN's release that will effect an expected low margin of player's on the Dom pathing with an oddly negative Alessandra Scale. I've reviewed some of my dozens of Dom saves and most are no lower than -2 for her Scale. It's a bug nonetheless if it can be -3 or less without cheating the stats.

It's apparently linked not just to the ranks but also specifically picking the sweet assistant too ("sweet/K9 combo" as mentioned in the Discord).

 

[Genetius]

Okay, reviewing there's no code in Ep7 that changes any KLvl to a K7 (but it can be removed), but there is some for SubK7. These are different. K7 is Dom and SubK7 is one of the "secret" sub routes (they are basically the upgrade from a previous Sub to more of a Dom leaning path).

Note also that there are other ways to lose this "secret" sub pathing (SubK5 through SubK7), for example:
View attachment 2593089

You can NOT get to the Alessandra Sub menus/scenes (like the above) if on the Dom pathing EXCEPT from what appears to be the bug some of you folks are experiencing with (Alessandra's Scale) as noted in this preceding conditional:

    if subk5 or subk6 or subk7 or alessandra_scale <= -3:
        jump secretsubwakeuptime  #SanchoMod: Secret Sub Path
    elif k1pro or k2 or k3 or k4:
        jump subwakeuptime  #SanchMod: Regular Sub Path
    elif True:
        jump domwakeuptime  #SanchoMod: Regular Dom Paths

So, yes, there's technically a bug in the VN's release that will effect an expected low margin of player's on the Dom pathing with an oddly negative Alessandra Scale. I've reviewed some of my dozens of Dom saves and most are no lower than -2 for her Scale. It's a bug nonetheless if it can be -3 or less without cheating the stats.

That is partially incorrect. It is not a bug. You CAN get those scenes on pure dom route if on the first meeting with Olivia and Alessandra you choose sub (feet) choices in dialogue. Then in episode 6 you will get scene the same scene with Alessandra as subK5 route and can get her sponsorship. This information is included in the walkthrough.

 

[Sancho1969]

That is partially incorrect. It is not a bug. You CAN get those scenes on pure dom route if on the first meeting with Olivia and Alessandra you choose sub (feet) choices in dialogue. Then in episode 6 you will get scene the same scene with Alessandra as subK5 route and can get her sponsorship. This information is included in the walkthrough.

What you explain is a Player on the Sub pathing... the issue is for those on Dom pathing. subK5 is NOT a Dom route/path. Walkthrough means nothing to me whatever it says... the code speaks the truth. But yes, there's something odd going on here at first glance. I'll look into it further as I stated once I'm done working on my project for the VN. I'll fix the actual VN later if needed.

To me and to summarize, what I posted is the meat and potatoes to analyze to be certain of dev's intent:
" The question now is if the Player can be on the Dom path and be awarded -3 or less AlessandraScale WITHOUT cheating. "